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  • festegios
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    FluffWit wrote: »
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    Our performance has been really good the last 3 months or so.

    Wait...what? I am experiencing whatever is the opposite of "really good".

    Are you on a ps4 or xbone?

    Ps4. I have already let my yearly subscription run it's coarse due to all the unresolved performance issues(Lag, skill delays, positional desyncs, freezes, crashes...). The problems plaguing pc servers, I fear, will hit us even harder.

    You need a new console. I switched from ps4 to series s. No lag, no crashes, DC'd once during Midyear (riding into a massive fight).

    The old hardware simply isnt up to the job anymore.

    I play this on my ps4 only because all of those issues were also occuring on my ps5. No, I do not need a new console. And no, it's not "old hardware". These issues are server side.

    Absolutely zero problems running the game on PS5, besides the skill delays. But I think that one has to do something with how ZOS designed the controls (triggered on button release instead of press).
    If you experience lag and positional desynchs, you might have a network problem. Hard wired or Wifi makes a ton of difference.

    Also zero issues currently on my ps5
  • colossusx
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    festegios wrote: »
    FluffWit wrote: »
    FluffWit wrote: »
    FluffWit wrote: »

    Our performance has been really good the last 3 months or so.

    Wait...what? I am experiencing whatever is the opposite of "really good".

    Are you on a ps4 or xbone?

    Ps4. I have already let my yearly subscription run it's coarse due to all the unresolved performance issues(Lag, skill delays, positional desyncs, freezes, crashes...). The problems plaguing pc servers, I fear, will hit us even harder.

    You need a new console. I switched from ps4 to series s. No lag, no crashes, DC'd once during Midyear (riding into a massive fight).

    The old hardware simply isnt up to the job anymore.

    I play this on my ps4 only because all of those issues were also occuring on my ps5. No, I do not need a new console. And no, it's not "old hardware". These issues are server side.

    Absolutely zero problems running the game on PS5, besides the skill delays. But I think that one has to do something with how ZOS designed the controls (triggered on button release instead of press).
    If you experience lag and positional desynchs, you might have a network problem. Hard wired or Wifi makes a ton of difference.

    Also zero issues currently on my ps5

    Series X, S performance, waaaaayyyyy better than my One X. I couldn't imagine running this on PS4. I feel for you.

    Unfortunately they will patch consoles with the same crappy update PC got because the console patch was probably pushed to MS/Sony several weeks ago and those companies will charge them extra to change that rollout schedule. Additionally, I thought I read somewhere that game studios have to go through some MS testing to be certified for release to the Xbox anyway. I imagine Sony has the same requirements. Wouldn't want some game bricking millions of consoles or impacting regular console operations.
  • FluffWit
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    I'm as far away from the servers as possible (New Zealand) even in massive pvp battles- 100 plus people, I get very little if any lag on the new console.

    It's like night and day.
  • katanagirl1
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    There are issues on PS5 it’s just maybe some players aren’t doing trials or Cyrodiil so they don’t experience them. The new consoles have faster loading and smoother frame rate but the skills not firing and failed barswaps are still there.

    Someone above is probably right, the almighty schedule will be met regardless, I am afraid.

    The only thing we can hope at this point is that they have to enact the rollback from AWA that was talked about as a last resort.

    Maybe someone will finally realize that continuing down this broken road will be worse than not updating as planned, because that is surely what we are seeing now.
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  • Cadbury
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    Someone above is probably right, the almighty schedule will be met regardless, I am afraid.

    The only thing we can hope at this point is that they have to enact the rollback from AWA that was talked about as a last resort.

    Maybe someone will finally realize that continuing down this broken road will be worse than not updating as planned, because that is surely what we are seeing now.

    I'm a bit skeptical that any rollback will occur...
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • renne
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    Naw, they'd much rather push out a patch they know is completely broken (due to feedback from the PTS that went unheard, and then from PC when the same broken stuff still makes it into THEIR patch) to console, not acknowledge the things that are broken in the console patch notes and then make shocked pikachu face when console players are furious ZOS didn't even bother to delay or fix anything before the patch was released... than ever delay a patch.
  • FeedbackOnly
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    freespirit wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry too much, a lot of the PC woes have been caused by addons not being able to do what they used to.

    PC-NA has been having a terrible time, PC-EU where I play not so much, my guilds have still had high numbers online and chat hasn't been filled with comments about broken or not working stuff( besides addons and most of those are fixed now).

    Personally my issues have been more related to how AWA works rather than poor performance/ broken stuff and tbh that is personal preference not the developers fault.

    As consoles don't have addons hopefully everything will go fine, just remember if you have multiple characters and care who the achievement was earned by, read up and log into your characters in your favoured order! 💕

    Haha it wasn't add ons causing my load screens or unable to put stuff in bank. I am sorry but you are wrong
  • Cadbury
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    freespirit wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry too much, a lot of the PC woes have been caused by addons not being able to do what they used to.

    PC-NA has been having a terrible time, PC-EU where I play not so much, my guilds have still had high numbers online and chat hasn't been filled with comments about broken or not working stuff( besides addons and most of those are fixed now).

    Personally my issues have been more related to how AWA works rather than poor performance/ broken stuff and tbh that is personal preference not the developers fault.

    As consoles don't have addons hopefully everything will go fine, just remember if you have multiple characters and care who the achievement was earned by, read up and log into your characters in your favoured order! 💕

    Haha it wasn't add ons causing my load screens or unable to put stuff in bank. I am sorry but you are wrong

    Personally, I find it a bit odd that people are so quick to blame addons rather than any possible AWA issues.
    Edited by Cadbury on March 22, 2022 7:32AM
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • silvereyes
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    C'mon my console brothers. Don't fear the Reaper!

    Needs more cowbell.
  • FeedbackOnly
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    freespirit wrote: »
    I wouldn't worry too much, a lot of the PC woes have been caused by addons not being able to do what they used to.

    PC-NA has been having a terrible time, PC-EU where I play not so much, my guilds have still had high numbers online and chat hasn't been filled with comments about broken or not working stuff( besides addons and most of those are fixed now).

    Personally my issues have been more related to how AWA works rather than poor performance/ broken stuff and tbh that is personal preference not the developers fault.

    As consoles don't have addons hopefully everything will go fine, just remember if you have multiple characters and care who the achievement was earned by, read up and log into your characters in your favoured order! 💕

    Haha it wasn't add ons causing my load screens or unable to put stuff in bank. I am sorry but you are wrong

    Personally, I find it a bit odd that people are so quick to blame addons rather than any possible AWA issues.

    Most people didn't that guy was misinformed
  • Karivaa
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    FluffWit wrote: »
    Please?

    Our performance has been really good the last 3 months or so. Theres no hurry to get this out- 90% of people don't even do the dlc dungeons.

    We endured some absolutely horrendous updates last year, I won't go through them all but it was as bad as I've seen it in 7 years.

    And right now it's far more important to get the game running right on PC.
    FluffWit wrote: »
    Please?

    Our performance has been really good the last 3 months or so. Theres no hurry to get this out- 90% of people don't even do the dlc dungeons.

    We endured some absolutely horrendous updates last year, I won't go through them all but it was as bad as I've seen it in 7 years.

    And right now it's far more important to get the game running right on PC.

    We always wonder what new things they will break on console. Every time there is a new DLC, it breaks Cyrodiil in a new way.

  • Danel_Vadan
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    As one of the "10%" who does DLC dungeons, don't listen to this nonsense. Release it on schedule, please, because we're starving for new content.
    Tam! RUGH!
  • Vaoh
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    ESO is the only game I have ever known where you have to worry about what will work/what will break post patch...
  • Iselin
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    Update 33 did nothing bad to PC EU. All the problems have been on PC NA so you have a 50:50 chance of being fine... good luck! :)
  • Paulytnz
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    lmao ppl don't want this update now, it's hilarious. You're going to join this trainwreck regardless.

    Nooooooooooooo, hush - you hush! Delay, delay, delay!
  • Paulytnz
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    FluffWit wrote: »
    I'm as far away from the servers as possible (New Zealand) even in massive pvp battles- 100 plus people, I get very little if any lag on the new console.

    It's like night and day.

    I am guessing like me you are on fiber? We must remember that not every country has a pretty much full rolled out fiber like we do. ;)

    PS - I am also on PS5 and can say there's a HUGE difference over the PS4, mind you I never had the PS4 pro tho to compare...
  • Mik195
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    I wish they would make the changes before rolling out to console. Mostly because PC gets a 100MB update and XBox gets a 40GB update. I'm on Comcast so I have a bandwidth cap and multiple huge downloads are challenging.
  • DragonRacer
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    Karivaa wrote: »
    FluffWit wrote: »
    Please?

    Our performance has been really good the last 3 months or so. Theres no hurry to get this out- 90% of people don't even do the dlc dungeons.

    We endured some absolutely horrendous updates last year, I won't go through them all but it was as bad as I've seen it in 7 years.

    And right now it's far more important to get the game running right on PC.
    FluffWit wrote: »
    Please?

    Our performance has been really good the last 3 months or so. Theres no hurry to get this out- 90% of people don't even do the dlc dungeons.

    We endured some absolutely horrendous updates last year, I won't go through them all but it was as bad as I've seen it in 7 years.

    And right now it's far more important to get the game running right on PC.

    We always wonder what new things they will break on console. Every time there is a new DLC, it breaks Cyrodiil in a new way.

    Yup. To the point I had to add a channel on my guild's Discord specifically to talk about what went wrong "this" time for every update/patch and work-arounds until it's fixed. I finally had to start it last April when a patch made it so hard to navigate inventory and inventory-related processes (like selling to merchants or listing in guild stores) that people genuinely thought it was 100% broken and unusable.

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    I believe PC actually dodged that one. Console exclusive bug that time. LOL
    PS5 NA. GM of The PTK's - a free trading guild (CP 500+). Also a werewolf, bites are free when they're available. PSN = DragonRacer13
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    PC player here.

    Really like the new dungeons. Both are very challenging on HM, reasonably difficult on Vet, and a pushover on normal, exactly how the should be. Trash is not over the top, and boss mechanics reward good DPS but also need to be respected. Great balance overall.

    Minor stupid issues aside, I also really love AWA.

    Performance this patch, however, has been the worst in years. Disconnects, long load screens, what feels like massive lag spikes despite stable ping, Group Finder broken, PVP unplayable, etc. Maintenance has just made things worse. I could not even begin to imagine pushing this mess to console in its current state, but we all know they will.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on March 22, 2022 5:02PM
  • SpaPooP
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    I still think this has to do with the Sharding and Cold Storage that was specific to PC-NA yesterday, two actions that would appear to be heavy database intensive.

    I could guess that the system just can't handle moving everyone around into new "shards" while simultaneously cleaning the database of old accounts. And we all jumped on at the same time after Maintenance to put it to its limits.

    And any burp in code or server burp would just corrupt it further.
    Edited by SpaPooP on March 22, 2022 4:56PM
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