Tonal Torc for me. It's such a massive crutch I stopped using it but perfect for a stamblade. Damage with your stam, evade with your magick; endless resources.

My entirely biased, personal answer: Wild Hunt. Why?

• Speed rules for defense.
• Speed rules to keep your target in your hitbox for all 4 strikes of Puncturing Sweeps / Jabs.
• It is one of the best PvP items by popular consensus. Less talked about than Malacath in it's day, I've nonetheless seen it being put as S-tier alongside pre-nerf Malacath. These days the Markyn ring probably takes the place of Malacath.

I tried Pale Order in PvP on my magplar. I duelled with it in one particular session against a very good player. The whole idea was to maximise healing from damage, so I could stay on the attack. It was decent, but not better than other builds. Meh. It's really a solo PvE item IMO. As soon as you group, it gets diluted.

Personally I have never been a fan of Malacath. Templars have a crit passive. You also benefit from crit healing. I'd rather build for some half decent crit, in the 30% to 40% range, than wear Malacath. Then again, I prefer light and medium over heavy armor in general. If you are more of a heavy armor player, then Malacath may make sense. Historically I've found my damage takes too much of a drop in heavy for my liking.

I think the Torc is like Marmite. Very playstyle dependent. Personally I hate it. It gives you the resource that you don't need. I've never had a build where that worked for me, not even my dark-dealing stamsorc. It's probably something you need to carefully build for and adjust your playstyle towards. If you are the sort of stamblade that constantly shades, but doesn't have any real mag sustain, this works. If you are a player that heavy attacks for stamina as a matter of routine, great. You've already built for borderline conventional sustain and learnt to play around that. On a stamplar, maybe if you use Toppling Charge and you always keep your Ritual or the healing bubble up. On a magplar I wouldn't let my stam run low, though (pool too small and you need to break free). In fact I'm quite the opposite. I'm much more likely to run Wretched Vitality and sacrifice damage for greater sustain, because I prefer the way that plays. So which player are you? The heavy attack weaving player who's also always low on their off stat? Great! The Torc is for you. You quite possibly will have high damage, since you're not investing much else in sustain, and you're likely a good dueller. At the very least you are an experienced player with a well-defined playstyle that lets you judge your sustain and build for it so borderline that you're always in range of the Torc. However if, like me, you don't give much of a rat's behind about ultimate damage / duelling / proving you're the best anymore, if you play a more opportunistic playstyle, if you just want to be where the action is and not constantly exhausted, if you don't mind sacrificing some damage for sustain, because there are always players you won't be able to kill anyway, then you will probably like to build for better straight up sustain and the Torc won't be for you.

Gaze of Sithis is something to try on a templar, especially in Ravenwatch.

I find Snow Treaders very niche. I run Race Against Time or Shuffle on most of my builds. In general Snow Traders pale in comparison to Wild Hunt for me, but I do like them on my stamsorc, probably because that class has another mode of movement, e.g. Streak. On any other class: No. On nightblades Wild Hunt is loads better.

Markyn Ring of Majesty: The meta. Considered the best compromise by many, probably for all builds, even with just a 2x bonus from it.

Death Dealer's Fete: Something you might want to carefully look at. Do you have a health target, such as 30K? Do you want more of your off stat? Is the Markyn Ring really giving you that much weapon / spell damage? Generally, on a magplar especially (Minor Sorcery) Markyn should win. This can be build-dependent, though.

Bloodlord's Embrace: I can only imagine this as part of some troll tank build.

Thrassian Stranglers: Nope. Not suitable for PvP (cause you will die). IMO a speciality item for solo arena speed runs.

Pearls of Ehlnofey: What's this? Why does it exist?

Harpooner's Wading Kilt: A PvE DDs wet dream. Not suitable for PvP.

Shapeshifter's Chain: I assume it may be good for werewolves. Doesn't look tempting to me. Maybe for a clowncro.

Belharza's Band: I have no idea. If this thing works with Overload, who knows.

Spaulder of Ruin: Don't touch my sustain! I'm a solo player. This looks like a group set, a really weird group set. What would you be doing in crouch, in the middle of the fight? I guess if you were a vamp with no movement penality and you were wearing Darloc Brae, you could probably buff your 12-man group with this quite happily all day.

Aha! Thanks for clearing that up.

Zama666 wrote: »

I do not have Markyn....did not even know about it.

So I am running a 5pc (Pariah) 2pc jewelry (3rd is Ring of the Wild Hunt)
This means I will only get the bonus for the 5pc, right? I would have to drop the 5 piece to get more value?

How are others using it?

Tanks!

Z

You could run 2 different 5 pc sets, 1 pc monster, and the Markyn or any mythic really. (Could do an arena weapon on back or front bar also)

or

Front bar set (3pc 24/7), Back bar set (3pc 24/7), 1pc trainee, and a monster set.

alternatively, you could run a 5pc set, one of the 3pc sets (1 jewelry & weapon slots), and 3pc trainee .... or ... the front bar/back bar option, with 3 trainee instead of 1 trainee and a monster set. (Markyn ring builds only, but not quite best in slot tbh - very stat dense though)