Drdeath20 wrote: »

Battlegrounds, solo pvp or group stuff?

Thanks for that!

Cyrodiil or Imperial City

Necrotech_Master wrote: »

i like having ring of the wild hunt for getting around cyro without a mount (you know for those cases when you get perma stuck in combat)

malacath isnt quite as good as it used to be so i wouldnt recommend it, its even weaker now that most procs crit (unless your trying to get bigger plaguebreak numbers as that set cannot crit)

pale order is ok, as long as your playing solo


other good ones that you didnt mention you had yet:

• snow treaders (you cannot sprint, but you also cannot be snared/immobilized by anything considered purgeable)
• gaze of sithis (good for no proc campaigns)

Thanks @Necrotech_Master - I still have yet to get Snow Treader!!! Will start looking!

My entirely biased, personal answer: Wild Hunt. Why?

• Speed rules for defense.
• Speed rules to keep your target in your hitbox for all 4 strikes of Puncturing Sweeps / Jabs.
• It is one of the best PvP items by popular consensus. Less talked about than Malacath in it's day, I've nonetheless seen it being put as S-tier alongside pre-nerf Malacath. These days the Markyn ring probably takes the place of Malacath.

I tried Pale Order in PvP on my magplar. I duelled with it in one particular session against a very good player. The whole idea was to maximise healing from damage, so I could stay on the attack. It was decent, but not better than other builds. Meh. It's really a solo PvE item IMO. As soon as you group, it gets diluted.

Personally I have never been a fan of Malacath. Templars have a crit passive. You also benefit from crit healing. I'd rather build for some half decent crit, in the 30% to 40% range, than wear Malacath. Then again, I prefer light and medium over heavy armor in general. If you are more of a heavy armor player, then Malacath may make sense. Historically I've found my damage takes too much of a drop in heavy for my liking.

I think the Torc is like Marmite. Very playstyle dependent. Personally I hate it. It gives you the resource that you don't need. I've never had a build where that worked for me, not even my dark-dealing stamsorc. It's probably something you need to carefully build for and adjust your playstyle towards. If you are the sort of stamblade that constantly shades, but doesn't have any real mag sustain, this works. If you are a player that heavy attacks for stamina as a matter of routine, great. You've already built for borderline conventional sustain and learnt to play around that. On a stamplar, maybe if you use Toppling Charge and you always keep your Ritual or the healing bubble up. On a magplar I wouldn't let my stam run low, though (pool too small and you need to break free). In fact I'm quite the opposite. I'm much more likely to run Wretched Vitality and sacrifice damage for greater sustain, because I prefer the way that plays. So which player are you? The heavy attack weaving player who's also always low on their off stat? Great! The Torc is for you. You quite possibly will have high damage, since you're not investing much else in sustain, and you're likely a good dueller. At the very least you are an experienced player with a well-defined playstyle that lets you judge your sustain and build for it so borderline that you're always in range of the Torc. However if, like me, you don't give much of a rat's behind about ultimate damage / duelling / proving you're the best anymore, if you play a more opportunistic playstyle, if you just want to be where the action is and not constantly exhausted, if you don't mind sacrificing some damage for sustain, because there are always players you won't be able to kill anyway, then you will probably like to build for better straight up sustain and the Torc won't be for you.

Gaze of Sithis is something to try on a templar, especially in Ravenwatch.

I find Snow Treaders very niche. I run Race Against Time or Shuffle on most of my builds. In general Snow Traders pale in comparison to Wild Hunt for me, but I do like them on my stamsorc, probably because that class has another mode of movement, e.g. Streak. On any other class: No. On nightblades Wild Hunt is loads better.

Markyn Ring of Majesty: The meta. Considered the best compromise by many, probably for all builds, even with just a 2x bonus from it.

Death Dealer's Fete: Something you might want to carefully look at. Do you have a health target, such as 30K? Do you want more of your off stat? Is the Markyn Ring really giving you that much weapon / spell damage? Generally, on a magplar especially (Minor Sorcery) Markyn should win. This can be build-dependent, though.

Bloodlord's Embrace: I can only imagine this as part of some troll tank build.

Thrassian Stranglers: Nope. Not suitable for PvP (cause you will die). IMO a speciality item for solo arena speed runs.

Pearls of Ehlnofey: What's this? Why does it exist?

Harpooner's Wading Kilt: A PvE DDs wet dream. Not suitable for PvP.

Shapeshifter's Chain: I assume it may be good for werewolves. Doesn't look tempting to me. Maybe for a clowncro.

Belharza's Band: I have no idea. If this thing works with Overload, who knows.

Spaulder of Ruin: Don't touch my sustain! I'm a solo player. This looks like a group set, a really weird group set. What would you be doing in crouch, in the middle of the fight? I guess if you were a vamp with no movement penality and you were wearing Darloc Brae, you could probably buff your 12-man group with this quite happily all day.

Markyn ring of majesty, one of the few mythics that has no compromise to your build, you can run your normal set up and not have to change or adjust anything. A lot of mythics come with compromises and the only time you "compromise" is when you choose to build into it to get the full bonus, but you don't have to at all.

It gives you tankiness and damage, if you're the type of player that wants a dense stat sheet or be able to be "jack of all trades" this definitely helps you in that department without sacrificing or making your build lopsided

Aha! Thanks for clearing that up.

fred4 wrote: »

. Pearls of Ehlnofey: What's this? Why does it exist

Before they nerfed magblade healers healthy offering, we used this to have unrivalled ult generation. It was absolutely fantastic.

I do not have Markyn....did not even know about it.

So I am running a 5pc (Pariah) 2pc jewelry (3rd is Ring of the Wild Hunt)
This means I will only get the bonus for the 5pc, right? I would have to drop the 5 piece to get more value?

How are others using it?

Tanks!

Z

Rhaegar75 wrote: »

Why most people view Markyn as superior to Malacath?

I’m not sure I get it

It depends on your build, malacath is generally more damage if you have low crit rate or are running proc sets that don't scale on weapon/spell damage. Even if not it does buff up tooltips more then markyn in most cases. Markyn can be better for damage if you have decent crit rate and crit damage passives. But people say markyn is better because it does everything, it buffs damage, heals and makes you tankier. Malacath just buffs damage, and more people will probably take the mythic that has more then one effect on a build. I use both though and i swap depending on what class and build i'm running and whether i need to be tankier and damage/heals or want more consistent damage.

I personally will never choose Markyn over Gaze. Even without the health recovery considered, what Gaze offers is more than Markyn. You get almost 3,300 health which would take about half of your attributes to acquire or 2-3 gear slots and twice as much armor as you'd get wearing Markyn with 2 5-piece sets. I don't think its' a comparison really because, well, math...

You can get more spell or weapon damage from your jewelry enchants, your other gear bonuses, and Major Brutality and Sorcery. So any kind of melee/brawler stam toon I'd definitely go Gaze. The health and armor is just too valuable. For a bow ganker I'd go ROTWH so you can free up your jewelry for infused w/ weapon damange. For any other type of PVP toon that doesn't have at least close to 50% crit chance I'd probably go Malakath. Or if you really want to go glass cannon for a melee stam toon (besides armor traits) you can go Malakath too as your crit chance is going to be low with most viable gear options these days anyway.

If you don't use ROTWH I'd definitely go 1 or 2 swift jewelry so you can keep up with or escape most other players. So many people are buffing speed these days so you won't do well if you don't also.