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So it's still deathmatch only?

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How is this still random when all we get in deathmatch over and over while in queue for random...
Edited by ZOS_Volpe on November 2, 2021 1:02PM
  • LyraEmber
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    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.
  • six2fall
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    LyraEmber wrote: »
    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.

    Not positive change if you actually liked the other modes & dont care for the boring deathmatch that usually turns into a huge clusterf... of who has less lag
  • LyraEmber
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    six2fall wrote: »
    LyraEmber wrote: »
    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.

    Not positive change if you actually liked the other modes & dont care for the boring deathmatch that usually turns into a huge clusterf... of who has less lag

    i dont find much lag at all in bgs. cyrodiil on the other hand is near unplayable, but bgs are ok for me.

    i cant imagine fighting other players being more "boring" than sitting on flags or chasing one guy with the chaosball while he exploits into a wall.
  • fizl101
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    From memory (I don't BG so don't go into that subforum often) it was mentioned that when pulling together a queue for all types it will include the deathmatch queue people so it would show up proportionally more often than non deathmatch. There was an explanation in the pinned post in the BG group
    Soupy twist
  • JJOtterBear
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    easier solution was to just create separate queues for the different BG modes.
  • NerfSeige
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    six2fall wrote: »
    LyraEmber wrote: »
    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.

    Not positive change if you actually liked the other modes & dont care for the boring deathmatch that usually turns into a huge clusterf... of who has less lag

    What kind of backyard internet do you have? BGs is the most stable pvp in the game.
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    NerfAS and Shill ruins everything

    Skinny-meta-fake, graded D, and can’t explain the law of diminishing marginal returns.

    I won’t post that Wes, I’ll get [snipped] for the last time

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  • mmtaniac
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    Probably less players play right now ,expansion just start.
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    LyraEmber wrote: »
    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.

    Just because it's not mindless slaughter doesn't make it PvE. The other modes had objectives
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    fizl101 wrote: »
    From memory (I don't BG so don't go into that subforum often) it was mentioned that when pulling together a queue for all types it will include the deathmatch queue people so it would show up proportionally more often than non deathmatch. There was an explanation in the pinned post in the BG group

    It's every single time... also there's already a solo death match queue
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    Yeah I haven't had any objective BGs since the patch, nor my friend. Kinda sucks I was looking forward to CTR.
    PvP needs more love.
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    Been in 20 matches at this point. Q’d for solo random for every single one. Got death match for every single one.

    I think they need to either fix the bug, or rethink the types of queues if by some miracle somebody says other match types are actually available, just extremely rare.
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    Been in 20 matches at this point. Q’d for solo random for every single one. Got death match for every single one.

    I think they need to either fix the bug, or rethink the types of queues if by some miracle somebody says other match types are actually available, just extremely rare.

    Just separate the two queues.
  • Taggund
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    3 matches tonight queued as Solo Random. All 3 deathmatch. This was my expectation based on how they phrased what they were doing, but I was taking a wait and see attitude on it. Now I know.
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    Seems to me like objective bgs were never actually that popular and only seemed that way because ZOS created a queue that artificially inflated their chance of occurring over deathmatch.

    FWIW, I'd be fine with ZOS just going back to what it was way back when and let us choose our type. Bonus points if they could create a check box system that would let a player mark which mode they wanted.

    Even then, if you choose deathmatch as one of the options, I think this same result would occur. Deathmatch has always been the most popular choice, when choice was given.


    Edit - but really, I'd love for them to completely scrap this 3 team nonsense and just do the tried and true team vs team. Objective play will never be enjoyable for PvPers in a 3 team format.
    Edited by Aldoss on November 3, 2021 6:04AM
  • NerfSeige
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    Aldoss wrote: »
    but really, I'd love for them to completely scrap this 3 team nonsense and just do the tried and true team vs team. Objective play will never be enjoyable for PvPers in a 3 team format.

    BATTLE ROYALE..... Maybe a maze for objective thingy. C'mon ZOS.... lots of threads on PVP and BGs are a gold mine for additional content.
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    NerfAS and Shill ruins everything

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    I won’t post that Wes, I’ll get [snipped] for the last time

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    Aldoss wrote: »
    Seems to me like objective bgs were never actually that popular and only seemed that way because ZOS created a queue that artificially inflated their chance of occurring over deathmatch.

    FWIW, I'd be fine with ZOS just going back to what it was way back when and let us choose our type. Bonus points if they could create a check box system that would let a player mark which mode they wanted.

    Even then, if you choose deathmatch as one of the options, I think this same result would occur. Deathmatch has always been the most popular choice, when choice was given.


    Edit - but really, I'd love for them to completely scrap this 3 team nonsense and just do the tried and true team vs team. Objective play will never be enjoyable for PvPers in a 3 team format.

    It's not about being popular. They got no chance of popping as it's designed now
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    Taggund wrote: »
    3 matches tonight queued as Solo Random. All 3 deathmatch. This was my expectation based on how they phrased what they were doing, but I was taking a wait and see attitude on it. Now I know.

    10 random battlegrounds...all deathmatch so far!
  • _adhyffbjjjf12
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    the random queue logic should be something along the lines of following per parallel instance permitted.

    When first person enters queue where there is no BG selected, pick a random one
    Wait x minutes and try to fill it with other random players.
    If it fail to fill then move those people to a solo DM team if it completes, otherwise wait

    if it does that, all is fair.

  • auz
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    LyraEmber wrote: »
    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.

    Just because it's not mindless slaughter doesn't make it PvE. The other modes had objectives

    No, but it does make for some pretty boring pvp.
  • odintgeb14_ESO
    I was really looking forward to playing the other game modes but alas, it's just only deathmatch. Please just make the two queues separate. If I wanted to play deathmatch I'd queue for that.
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    I wonder if someone should do a test and form 3 groups of four people who all queue for random BG at the same time and see if it still comes up Deathmatch....See if it's even possible at all to get the objective modes.
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    Wolf_Eye wrote: »
    I wonder if someone should do a test and form 3 groups of four people who all queue for random BG at the same time and see if it still comes up Deathmatch....See if it's even possible at all to get the objective modes.

    Queue up for Solo Random BG 100 times. Chart how many times you get DM vs the others. I’m pretty sure you’ll see how broken it is.
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    Wolf_Eye wrote: »
    I wonder if someone should do a test and form 3 groups of four people who all queue for random BG at the same time and see if it still comes up Deathmatch....See if it's even possible at all to get the objective modes.

    Queue up for Solo Random BG 100 times. Chart how many times you get DM vs the others. I’m pretty sure you’ll see how broken it is.

    I don't doubt it's broken for solo, but I'm just curious to see if you can "force" the system to give an objective mode if you have enough people all queueing for the randoms at the same time to fill up the arena.
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    So far this week only one non deathmatch and happy early monday morning was chaosball, not even bothering keeping trakc of how many deathmatches I am getting anymore
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    six2fall wrote: »
    LyraEmber wrote: »
    They didnt want people pveing for AP anymore, so they established deathmatch as the primary bg mode. Its a positive change imo.

    Not positive change if you actually liked the other modes & dont care for the boring deathmatch that usually turns into a huge clusterf... of who has less lag

    I was really looking forward to playing the other game modes but alas, it's just only deathmatch. Please just make the two queues separate. If I wanted to play deathmatch I'd queue for that.

    I agree with you @six2fall and @odintgeb14_ESO




    Edited by Gandalf_72 on February 17, 2022 6:23PM
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  • Rishikesa108
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    If I choose "only DM" obviously DM comes out; if I choose "random BG" it always comes out only DM. Those who prefer DM have imposed their opinion on all others who do not prefer DM. This is highly undemocratic. When the opinion of some limits the freedom of choice of others ... where do we go?
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    If I choose "only DM" obviously DM comes out; if I choose "random BG" it always comes out only DM. Those who prefer DM have imposed their opinion on all others who do not prefer DM. This is highly undemocratic. When the opinion of some limits the freedom of choice of others ... where do we go?

    Next patch they fix it or at least they promised us.

    I don't like how devs think other modes aren't pvp.This is how this boring year happened.

  • Gandalf_72
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    You are right @FeedbackOnly as well as @xDeusEJRx in this message in this thread:
    how to change battleground game mode


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    Is this problem not solved yet?

    I gave up playing battlegrounds since the last year because I never got anything than the boring deathmatch mode.

    Now, because of the PVP event I'm trying it again, and once again I always get deathmatch.

    I always select "random battlegrounds" I always get deathmatch.

    This doesn't make any sense.

    It's not a bug, it was well intended because they changed the entire queueing system and how it functions. It was actually a test to see how it would effect BG population, and they stated they'd be reverting the change in the next update. So for the entire event you will most likely only receive TDM's. It'll be in place until march when the update rolls out

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  • Rishikesa108
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    If I choose "only DM" obviously DM comes out; if I choose "random BG" it always comes out only DM. Those who prefer DM have imposed their opinion on all others who do not prefer DM. This is highly undemocratic. When the opinion of some limits the freedom of choice of others ... where do we go?

    Next patch they fix it or at least they promised us.

    I don't like how devs think other modes aren't pvp.This is how this boring year happened.

    This pvp event is a shame IMHO. They should have fixed it BEFORE, not after.
    Man did not weave the web of life – he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself
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