how to change battleground game mode?

NeKryXe

my battleground group finder somehow got stuck on deathmode only, and i have no idea how to change it. usually it was random, but now it is always stuck on deathmode, i don't even know how it happened. how do i put it in random mode again?

dlrgames

You can’t
ZOS changed the BG to Deathmatch only

NeKryXe

dlrgames wrote: »

You can’t
ZOS changed the BG to Deathmatch only

WTH!? [snip]

Nice to know. Time to start playing something else for PVP then...

Ridiculous. [snip]

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Sylvermynx

It's temporary. Supposedly. No end date announced.

Ratzkifal

This is a prime example of ZOS and their "communication" - only talk about it on stream and the forums. Every casual player ingame has no idea what's going on. It's not like they could send literally everyone a system mail to inform them about what they are doing
But yeah, this is temporary. It's a test. What they are testing nobody knows. My guess is they want to test the activity and longevity of a pure deathmatch queue. If activity increases or stays high enough for an extended amount of time they might consider adding a deathmatch only queue alongside the old random mode queue or something.

The random mode queue is the default state and it will return eventually. We just don't know when.

NeKryXe

Ratzkifal wrote: »

This is a prime example of ZOS and their "communication" - only talk about it on stream and the forums. Every casual player ingame has no idea what's going on. It's not like they could send literally everyone a system mail to inform them about what they are doing
But yeah, this is temporary. It's a test. What they are testing nobody knows. My guess is they want to test the activity and longevity of a pure deathmatch queue. If activity increases or stays high enough for an extended amount of time they might consider adding a deathmatch only queue alongside the old random mode queue or something.

The random mode queue is the default state and it will return eventually. We just don't know when.

[Snip]. For example I have to play that [Snip] 5 times, because of the weekly endeavors.

If they wanted to do a good test, they should leave the random option vs the boring deathmatch only. This way they would have a real result about the amount of people interested in deathmatch only.

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SkaraMinoc

NeKryXe wrote: »

If they wanted to do a good test, they should leave the random option vs the boring deathmatch only.

Many players do not find deathmatch boring. Objective battlegrounds can be awful. Imagine queueing for 15+ minutes only to have the battleground last 3 minutes because someone rushed to capture the relic. It's extremely frustrating.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

If they wanted to do a good test, they should leave the random option vs the boring deathmatch only.

Many players do not find deathmatch boring. Objective battlegrounds can be awful. Imagine queueing for 15+ minutes only to have the battleground last 3 minutes because someone rushed to capture the relic. It's extremely frustrating.

That kind of the point of capure the relic...

AJones43865

The reason all BG modes other than Deathmatch were eliminated was almost certainly to free up server resources. It's probably rational to keep this in mind when contemplating whether or not we will see the return of BG modes other than Deathmatch. It seems most likely that BG modes other than Deathmatch are gone for good.

Aaxc

It's not like this wasn't announed literally EVERYWHERE - forums, patchnotes, official website, official stream and every single streamer has talked about this.

Even google the very first result will tell you that ...

lillybit

That's not quite literally everywhere. It wasn't on the official site because the change wasn't part of a major update, just added to an incremental. Also, not everyone uses the forum or watches streams and if you don't use the forum you're not likely to see the patchnotes. Some people like to just play games without doing homework!

Where it wasn't announced was in game. How hard would it be to have a pop up message appear when going into the battlegrounds section of the group finder, to let people know a fairly significant change like this? It didn't even get mentioned on their announcements pop up, probably because it doesn't involve the crown store at all.

Their decisions lately seem to be more and more geared towards attracting casuals so you'd think they'd make at least some effort to let them know what's happening.

NeKryXe

A few days ago I noticed that the Random Battlegrounds returned, which seemed amazing at first. But it seems bugged. The Random Battlegrounds are ALWAYS Deathmatch Battlegrounds anyway.

Dagoth_Rac

NeKryXe wrote: »

A few days ago I noticed that the Random Battlegrounds returned, which seemed amazing at first. But it seems bugged. The Random Battlegrounds are ALWAYS Deathmatch Battlegrounds anyway.

It seems to be by design but I am not sure ZOS realized this would be outcome. If you queue for deathmatch, you get deathmatch. If you queue for random, you can get anything, including deathmatch. So if 1 person queues for deathmatch and 11 people queue for random, ZOS treats that as 12 people willing to do deathmatch. I think the only way to get non-deathmatch is if 12 random people are in queue and zero deathmatch people are in queue.

ealdwin

The current system is broken as ****. It needs fixed so Objective modes can trigger again. Right now players are effectively locked out of modes they want to play and the rewards and achievements associated with those modes.

Gythral

Even if you queue for random, if 1 out of the 12 queued for Deathmatch, you all get Deathmatch...

jle30303

Yes, a month later, it is now technically possible to queue random again, but since the queues are combined, it's almost (not completely but almost) impossible to actually trigger a non-deathmatch BG.

This_0ne

this whole situation, IMHO, would not be so absurd if they launched a deathmatch with a repaired 1000 kills achievement. Meanwhile i keep on waiting Mayhem and hope they to fix it. And i am not played BGs now)

GetAgrippa

I'll preface this by saying I'm a Deathmatch enthusiast and prefer to only play dm. However, I think they should return to two random queues again, one solo and one group. They should just increase the likelihood of DM to 50% chance. The problem DM players had with the random queue is you could go days at a time without a Deathmatch. So my preferred random queue would've been coded like 50% chance of Deathmatch, 50% chance of objective. Then if it is an objective, the 4 objective modes would have each a 25% chance of being selected. At least this way, you have a good chance of getting the objective you want, the DM players will get their preferred mode half the time, and there would still only be two queues. Myself, as someone who only wants DM, would feel a little shorted but then at least everyone gets what they want, albeit in smaller doses. I do think it's unacceptable for objective players to be practically locked out of their preferred game mode.

katanagirl1

How long would the queue be if you didn’t want to play Deathmatch and wanted something other than that for random? Would you’ve willing to wait until enough players wanted to queue for your mode?

Not saying that those guys should be forced into something they don’t want, but maybe give them a pop-up for Deathmatch and give them the option to join or wait.

Man, this isn’t rocket science, lol! Surely there is a solution.

ealdwin

This broken queue system is starting to get ridiculous.

Any progress towards a whole swatch of achievements and titles—not to mention other rewards—is being impaired by this broken *** system.

The system needs fixed so that the random queue can work as expected, ie. each BG game mode having a relatively equal chance of being triggered over a period of time.

NeKryXe

ealdwin wrote: »

This broken queue system is starting to get ridiculous.

Any progress towards a whole swatch of achievements and titles—not to mention other rewards—is being impaired by this broken *** system.

The system needs fixed so that the random queue can work as expected, ie. each BG game mode having a relatively equal chance of being triggered over a period of time.

I don't even play anymore when I get deathmatch, I just stay there moving a little and waiting for the end. From now on I'll just go there to get the endeavors requests. The best things of BGs are gone.

NeKryXe

Is this problem not solved yet?

I gave up playing battlegrounds since the last year because I never got anything than the boring deathmatch mode.

Now, because of the PVP event I'm trying it again, and once again I always get deathmatch.

I always select "random battlegrounds" I always get deathmatch.

This doesn't make any sense.

ValarMorghulis1896

Meh. The "deathmatch-only-bug" seems to be just as long-lived as the "weapon-surf-bug" or the "in-combat-bug"

draigwyrdd

It isn't a bug. It's a (probably unintended) result of the design of the queues. If 11 players queue for random, and 1 player queues for deathmatch, the battleground will be a deathmatch.

Dark_Lord_Kuro

So how do we get the outfit style reward for the other game type currently?

Necrotech_Master

Sylvermynx wrote: »

It's temporary. Supposedly. No end date announced.

"end date" to at least return the queue to full random only i believe should be returning with the next update (U33)

not a great solution for those who prefer DM, but at least DM wont be forced on everyone for those who dont like DM

NeKryXe

draigwyrdd wrote: »

It isn't a bug. It's a (probably unintended) result of the design of the queues. If 11 players queue for random, and 1 player queues for deathmatch, the battleground will be a deathmatch.

They could easily fix that by completely removing deathwatch from the random game. There's an option to play that mode already, we don't need it twice. It's pathetic. We can't even complete the achievements or have some fun with the old good battlegrounds. They turned some nice PVP games into a horrendous thing and now they try to push us to that trash to earn the event tickets.

xDeusEJRx

NeKryXe wrote: »

Is this problem not solved yet?

I gave up playing battlegrounds since the last year because I never got anything than the boring deathmatch mode.

Now, because of the PVP event I'm trying it again, and once again I always get deathmatch.

I always select "random battlegrounds" I always get deathmatch.

This doesn't make any sense.

It's not a bug, it was well intended because they changed the entire queueing system and how it functions. It was actually a test to see how it would effect BG population, and they stated they'd be reverting the change in the next update. So for the entire event you will most likely only receive TDM's. It'll be in place until march when the update rolls out

Gandalf_72

Thank you @xDeusEJRx

I linked your message here too:
So it's still deathmatch only?

NeKryXe

xDeusEJRx wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Is this problem not solved yet?

I gave up playing battlegrounds since the last year because I never got anything than the boring deathmatch mode.

Now, because of the PVP event I'm trying it again, and once again I always get deathmatch.

I always select "random battlegrounds" I always get deathmatch.

This doesn't make any sense.

It's not a bug, it was well intended because they changed the entire queueing system and how it functions. It was actually a test to see how it would effect BG population, and they stated they'd be reverting the change in the next update. So for the entire event you will most likely only receive TDM's. It'll be in place until march when the update rolls out

If it is intentional then it's even worse and more disrespectful towards players. Anyway, it doesn't make any sense. I still have the random option... what does it mean now? What's a random deathmatch then?

Most probably they did something wrong and came with that excuse to avoid fixing the problem. And the number of players is stupid. Like me, many players still play it a lot, for achievements, tickets or to complete sets. The big difference is that now I hate the game that I used to enjoy a lot. If they are ok with that, then it's all good. Maybe it's a test to find out how long it takes for us to completely give up.

xDeusEJRx

NeKryXe wrote: »

xDeusEJRx wrote: »

NeKryXe wrote: »

Is this problem not solved yet?

I gave up playing battlegrounds since the last year because I never got anything than the boring deathmatch mode.

Now, because of the PVP event I'm trying it again, and once again I always get deathmatch.

I always select "random battlegrounds" I always get deathmatch.

This doesn't make any sense.

It's not a bug, it was well intended because they changed the entire queueing system and how it functions. It was actually a test to see how it would effect BG population, and they stated they'd be reverting the change in the next update. So for the entire event you will most likely only receive TDM's. It'll be in place until march when the update rolls out

If it is intentional then it's even worse and more disrespectful towards players. Anyway, it doesn't make any sense. I still have the random option... what does it mean now? What's a random deathmatch then?

Most probably they did something wrong and came with that excuse to avoid fixing the problem. And the number of players is stupid. Like me, many players still play it a lot, for achievements, tickets or to complete sets. The big difference is that now I hate the game that I used to enjoy a lot. If they are ok with that, then it's all good. Maybe it's a test to find out how long it takes for us to completely give up.

Rich lambert explained how the new queue works on his stream once. The reason you only get TDMs is because most people in the waiting queue are queued for "solo deatmatch" or "group deatchmatch" instead of "random". So when you click random, it goes to find a game to fill and the only to fill are deathmatch and therefore you will only get TDM. Since most people are choosing "deathmatch" over "random".

The old queue was a true random queue of all gamemodes where you had no control over what gamemode you'd be in, whereas here they were testing how it would be effected if they added in a "TDM" specific option. And since most people in the waiting queue are in TDM's, most will be TDM's.
It IS possible to get non TDM games and I've gotten into some but it's VERY VERY unlikely that you will