Necrotech_Master wrote: »

you know the stampede dot keeps reapplying maelstrom dot for its entire duration or adds the dot to anything that passes through the stampeded aoe, right?

so in reality the maelstrom dot effectively would last for 22 sec with this change if you only used stampede once and the enemy stayed in the aoe

i actually see this as a huge buff for a 2h maelstrom stampede build (right now im also stacking unleashed terror on that, which already forces me to re-use stampede every 10 sec to keep the unleashed dot up, but with this change i may move to a different proc that doesnt require stampede being used to proc it, maybe ill try pillar of nirn again lol)

Vaoh wrote: »

Don’t mention that stampede DoT refreshes the vMA 2H dot or they’ll take that away too

remosito wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Don’t mention that stampede DoT refreshes the vMA 2H dot or they’ll take that away too

They stated it was intentional, this is how every Weapon Skill Altering Set works. The closest set to this would be BRP DW which reprocs on each tick of damage from Blade Cloak.

However, there may be a bug on the PTS, it doesn't refresh on the ground dot beyond 8s, which results in the total duration aligning with 8 + 7 for 15s.

While that is neat and tidy from a number perspective, it make no sense to stop allowing it to reproc at 8-15s "just cuz" and nerfs the ability for situations like PVP where targets don't typically just stand in the aoe for the full 15s, this will force PVP players to recast the skill at 8s because it's possible that players won't walk through the field until the 9s-15s mark.

Really hope it's a bug.

seems too specific to be a bug tbh... changed from 10 to 8s...to line up total durations

probably intentional. up to 15s would have made ma 2h 50% stronger... exceeding some kind of budget???

1. Adding in random technical limitations that only people like us, forum users and theory crafters would notice is simply bad game design. For what reason should it only proc for the first 8 seconds, but not the last 7 seconds other than the 15s mark? There is none.
2. In terms of balance, having it last 22s instead of 15s only effects PVP really becasue in PVE, you need to keep up 100% uptime on the ground aoe dot so you would be casting it every 15s anyway. The primary use for stampede on back bar is to proc the enchantment, by casting it every 22s not only would you miss out on the good dps the ground aoe dot offers, but you'd lose a ton of uptime on your enchant. It's simply not worth it and the change has no real effect on PVE.
3. For PVP, this is a big nerf. For starters, the skill is increasing in cost by a lot, while reducing in direct damage. Thats fine, the other morph should be stronger single target wise, but the combination of a VMA 2H and Stampede only works remotely well because the dot will proc if someone steps into the aoe. Not a single PVPer is going to stand in the aoe dot for 15s straight, but you can rely on them touching the aoe every once and awhile to reproc the set effect, by making the last 7s of the skill worthless to that set, why bother slotting the combination at all? So a PVPer not only has to cast this early at 8/15s, but they also have an increased cost and reduced direct damage. It's already a negligble dot to begin with at about 500 damage a second, the cool part about the effect was that you could keep a bleed on someone for other synergies in the game that require bleeds on people. It combated purging quite well because it was easily refreshed too.