MovesLikeJaguar wrote: »

The reason they're doing a card game is due to their circumstances. They're working on fixing pvp, and in order to do that in a balanced way, they do not want to release any content that will shake up pvp too much. That's also why pvp updates to sets have been minor unless the issue is a major one. They've said that they won't do a new class or anything complicated like that until they have pvp worked out, and it should be by next year according to them.
A card game let them work on something major without having balance issues pop up in pvp. That's the main reason for that kind of mechanic: though I do hope it will be good, the mechanics they're outlined about the card game doesn't sound promising.

Yeah, I was expecting no new feature this year tbh. I would have been quite happy with new well-done zone, story, dungeons and trial with some QoL improvements and I’m glad to see new companions too. All that to say I would have been happier WITHOUT the card game added as I feel like time and resources were instead spent on something superfluous.

I'm highly interested in the lore for this next year, but as far as the whole chapter overall, no not really. We aren't getting anything significant in regards to core gameplay (new class, new weapon etc), and I'm not really all that into card games outside of MTG, and I don't even play that anymore tbh. (I may care about it more if the transmute crystal rewards I can get are significant.)

I realize there's quite a few things they need to work on first before they can add these things, but until they do, actually playing the game is going to feel the same as it has for a while now.

That's especially unfortunate for a chapter that isn't just a nostalgia ride as last two were (love Oblivion but still, eh). Seems like they've got an idea what writing people might like more and setting along the way but lack of substance might be a nail to the coffin here.

Personally I just hope my raiding team we're semi-reuniting with soon won't be much interested in a new trial so I can skip buying it for some time. Hate companions ("can't wait" to levels another useless bunch) and card game as a main feature doesn't cut it in a slightest.

Seeing their showcase they easily were able to lure people in with some kind of pvp jousting, spear skill line or something in the lines. Unfortunate year and missed opportunities.

Riptide wrote: »

They are all shrug to me until a veteran overland mode is introduced.
.. but just not of a quality where blazing through them are compelling enough to waltz through or have to disable CP and go naked to feel any sense of danger associated with them

Riptide wrote: »

Imagine doing new overland quests as a duo and feeling in danger, at any time. Or where doing them solo felt like an accomplishment.

There's a thread for that feedback. They'll shut this down if you derail the discussion into another overland debate.

I think there are a lot of people who are disappointed with this chapter because other than some new armor sets, new playable areas, and the card game, it's not really bringing anything new that gets people really excited - a new class, no new skill line, no major ability reworks (just balance changes to scaling). I'm a little bit in the same boat, but on second glance, I think perhaps we're just spoiled and we're expecting too much. As someone who loves the stories told in ESO, I'm excited to get a new story line - just not excited as I would be given that I''m not quite caught up with the old stuff.

I think if your PVP oriented, or endgame oriented and you play the game less for the story, then this chapter obviously doesn't offer up a whole lot to you. What we know from the new sets, they appear to be pretty mediocre.

If the chapter came this way, and there was a laundry list of bugs, fixes, and performance issues they were going to try to address with this dlc, I think people would be happy with just that, but it doesn't even appear that they're doing that. So I can understand why a lot of people are disappointed.

Pffff talk for yourself, the chapter is about Bretons and the upcoming combat changes look super good to me.
So I'm super excited.

People on forums always claim the 'majority' agrees with them wholeheartedly to make their own words sound more convincing, but that's just silly. I mean, in contrast most people I know are super excited about the Breton year, but that doesn't mean I'll claim that everyone amongst the playerbase shares my opinion.

I refuse to prejudge and pan the upcoming chapter in general, and the card game in particular, until I've had the opportunity to play them in depth. I preordered the new chapter shortly after the reveal-- the day after, I think it was-- and I'm looking forward to exploring the new zones after the chapter is released.

As for the card game, I've never played a collectible card game-- with the exception of TES:Legends, which I'm not very good at-- so I'm ambivalent about the idea of having a card game inside of ESO. As much as I want to see Legends stay alive so I can try to get better at it, I was against the idea of incorporating Legends into ESO due to their different time periods; adding just the cards might have been okay for the most part, but Legends' storyline takes place in ESO's distant future. So unlike all of the players who are disappointed because they wanted Legends to be added into ESO, I for one am very relieved that it was not-- although we've yet to see how much the new card game will resemble Legends, if at all. And from the reveal, it sounds as though the new card game is going to tie into the existing zones and be a method of acquiring new gear, new furnishings, new collectibles such as mounts and pets, etc., similar to how Antiquities was made into an important feature for acquiring those sorts of things in all zones of the game. (Certain zones might not contain dig sites, but they still contain leads to dig sites.)

In my opinion, it's already shaping up to be a very interesting chapter, judging by how much debate it's already generating.

I don't really care about new features personally (and tbvh I think ESO is already feature-rich, especially if you compare it with the TES games that came before). It was the idea of Summerset that drew me to ESO and now that I'm here, all I really want from a new chapter are a beautiful land, beautiful music, interesting stories and compelling characters.

As for the new feature, the card game, I have less than zero interest in it, and as long as they make it completely optional, I'll be happy.

Two-shotting every thing with light attacks is just too depressing to bare at this point. Nothing they put out is going to excite me until they find a way to fix the Overland experience. I stopped questing, permanently, a few quests into Blackwood's main story. So, from now on, it's mostly other games, housing, companions... and... continued... waiting for something to finally change.

My friend loves Breton lore and is very excited about the chapter! I am excited to collect cards and play the card game personally. I think there’s plenty to be excited for, maybe it’ll be more entertaining than you expect. I didn’t expect much from antiquities but I was pleasantly surprised when it came out I love antiquities now and am expecting the next chapter to surprise me.

Cameron991 wrote: »

I love this game and I love the stories and chapters they release but his next chapter doesn’t have me as excited as last usual. The reason why I’m not excited has nothing to do with the setting or Bretons because I am actually stoked for that and I love the medieval castles, knights, chivalry and all of that sort. The problem is the new feature just doesn’t bring any excitement in my opinion. I feel like the card game may be cool or whatever but as a main feature it is really upsetting in my opinion I waited a year after Blackwood announcement thinking we were guaranteed a new gameplay feature with combat because it’s been so long but here we are again and now I feel we will have to wait a whole another year or more if they don’t add one next years chapter. It’s just sad because I usually like to start a new character that fits the theme of the chapter and uses the new class or skills but there isn’t one so I feel like it’s going to get dull especially since I’ve played all classes. I was hoping since we got a breton dlc with would get a new magic weapon or a new class but I was disappointed. I hope they can see majority of us are unhappy no new skills or weapons were added and hopefully they add something in q4 dlc or something because this is disappointing in my opinion

I mean the problem is people continue to buy the dlc so why would they ever do more?

Compared to what ff14 offers each expansion is crazy. In eso you get 1 new map....... Maybe sometimes 1 new class...... But in ff14 you get 6 full huge zones 2 new playable classes, 8 dungeons, 2 trials, 4 normal raids 4 Savage raids...... They are the same price seriously just take that in lol.

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I mean personally I'm hyped. High Rock was my favourite vanilla province and I love Card Games like the one in FFXIV and The Witcher 3.

I'm more hyped for this than I was for Greymoor, Blackwood and Elsweyr.

Also started to lose interest a couple of chapters ago. No fault of this game however. Uninstalled gw2 recently for the same reason, lost interest after being a fanatic for years. Think its just a natural cycle. Not just MMO's either, this applies to single player games series for me too.

They have not added anything really game changing that gets the majority of people excited in years. Necro class was the last major thing. For expansions, it should always be something major. And no, I do not count companions as major. Antiquities is also not major.

I can forgive some lack of innovativeness that took place during the pandemic. But I sure hope next year they come up with something better than card games, mini games and NPC followers.