PLEASE NO! I am so *excited* for account wide achieves, primarily because of dungeon achieves being account wide. I have a life so I don't have the insane amount of time it takes to get all the dungeon achieves on my favorite toons, let alone soley on my main. I LOVE the fact that I will be able to take my NB healer through a dungeon because the group I am running with already has 2 dps, but will not have to feel bad about it anymore because I will still get the dungeon achieve credit on my main, a Templar dps! Awesome!

The account wide achieves will be an AMAZING quality-of-life improvement for players. Especially dungeon achieves.

Sonnir wrote: »

PLEASE NO! I am so *excited* for account wide achieves, primarily because of dungeon achieves being account wide. I have a life so I don't have the insane amount of time it takes to get all the dungeon achieves on my favorite toons, let alone soley on my main. I LOVE the fact that I will be able to take my NB healer through a dungeon because the group I am running with already has 2 dps, but will not have to feel bad about it anymore because I will still get the dungeon achieve credit on my main, a Templar dps! Awesome!

The account wide achieves will be an AMAZING quality-of-life improvement for players. Especially dungeon achieves.

Sure great, yes, let's have it show across the account that you got this achievement.

But can we also please have it show how many of our characters have gotten it? You got it only on one, cool, great, happy for you. I have it on several. I want that to continue to show up in my panels. I do not want to have all my other clears erased by my main's ...

tomofhyrule wrote: »

A lot of the consternation is also coming from the basic achievements as well - the very basic 'killed Delve boss XYZ' ones, since that triggers the map completion. It's not only the people who want to show off how many times they got Godslayer on different toons, it's also the people who want to start a new character and explore from scratch without the entire world being counted as 'already cleared.'

I'm personally disappointed that we'll only get one or the other. Account-wide Monster Trophy collection and account-wide cosmetic titles are great, but account-wide zone completion is really taking the exploration out of a game series famed for its exploration.

This is my biggest issue. Far more so than dungeons, which I can still see are cleared by said character on the map (As they’re tied to quests, not achievements, though not being able to check my achievements for a quick overview of my progress towards clearing every dungeon is super annoying).

I was generally pro-AwA until I saw it butcher exploration and story content (Being addressed as having completed content I haven’t on that character) on alts.

As said above, read the feedback thread.

The real problem is that the quests, events and NPCs in the game have been coded with the assumption of char-wide achievements.

If this goes live, we'll be living with a broken game with years to come. Anyone still sticking around that is.

Sonnir wrote: »

PLEASE NO! I am so *excited* for account wide achieves, primarily because of dungeon achieves being account wide. I have a life so I don't have the insane amount of time it takes to get all the dungeon achieves on my favorite toons, let alone soley on my main. I LOVE the fact that I will be able to take my NB healer through a dungeon because the group I am running with already has 2 dps, but will not have to feel bad about it anymore because I will still get the dungeon achieve credit on my main, a Templar dps! Awesome!

The account wide achieves will be an AMAZING quality-of-life improvement for players. Especially dungeon achieves.

I will never understand that mindset. I am all in for account wide achievements as long as I am still able to track my progress per character for several reasons.

To me, AWAs should represent what I as a player have achieved on my account. No need for an "earned by" tag as seen on the PTS, that is not only of little to no use, but even somehow spoils the account wide approach..
You have earned all possible dungeon achievements? Kudos to you, you as a player earned those, you own those, you are absolutely entitled to show off with those! In fact, I feel the same, I absolutely get this.

What I don't get is people saying things like "now... I will still get the dungeon achieve credit on my main". To me (!), if I get e.g. a dungeon achievement on my magden healer, yes, of course I as a player have earned that achievement, which should be represented by my AWAs. But to me, my templar dps still has not done that. And I want to be able to regain that achievement. To get that satisfying popup that tells me "yeah, I did it again".

I do not need any other rewards, tie all those to the AWAs, including titles. But I want to be able to decide which character wears which title based on my progress with that very character, making it a necessity to be able to track my progress per character in addition to my progress per account. I think you would agree when I say you do not have to catch one single fish less if Master Angler is done on multiple characters than on one. You do not have to drop one single monster trophy less, the overall in game effort is (almost) the same. But why stop there? Why not keep tracking your per character progress, so that one day the achievement pops up again, this time not per account but on the character you are actually playing with? Why take away the possibility to re-earn an achievement on your dps main that you already earned with your healer? Wouldn't that give you additional satisfaction? Well, maybe not. Maybe you would too much feel forced to regain that achievement. I accept that. But please accept that there are players who do not share your approach.

Please note that I am fully aware that all of the above is only my personal point of view that happens to differ from yours. I am not saying that one or the other is more right or wrong, or more legit or valid or whatever. In the end, it all comes down to personal preferences that are moot to debate.And that's the main point: your approach is not the only one. There are others that are equally valid.

And that is why I say I accept the first part of your post, though I do not exactly share it. But your last sentence is wron, plain and simple. Yes, the change may be a qol improvement for you and others with the same approach. But is not for players as a whole, as there are many to whom this is not only no improvement, but rather a huge letdown, eradicating the way they used to play.

I'd see no point in awa then at all for myself but for "trophy" ones, I don't really care if I've got same achievements on multiple characters as far as I remember getting them like teifectas etc., I'd like to get a pop up on them but don't need it to be character bound achievement to feel accomplished and bragging rights aren't what I'm chasing personally. For me the point of awa is being able to play what I want at the moment or switching for something that my group potentially needs without feeling of missing out whilst playing some sidekick I'm enjoying currently. It's probably boils down to value of achievement points people have, it's differs a lot. I get both perspectives but zeni would probably pick just one and roll with it, if the changes won't go through nothing would change for me really, my alts will be just collecting dust as they are now.

Also in a land where the main reward is an achievement still after getting them multiple times I'd be looking why that's the only worthy reward present and not just a mark stating completion of certain milestone.