Guys, is my math off or stamplars will be now able to combine Crescent Sweep with Radiant Opression for up to 800% damage bonus while having both skills scaling with 10K weapon damage? Asking for a PvP friend.

well all players will run with the one and only meta... No more diversity. One-size-fits-all

Chi75 wrote: »

well all players will run with the one and only meta... No more diversity. One-size-fits-all

where did you get the idea that there will be no diversity? Do you have calculations or evidence?

ESO_Nightingale wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

My issue is that i thought they would buff o rework skills that no one uses, yet they barely did it.
Almost all of dual wield skills are bad and no buffs.
Rapid strikes is garbage.
Shrouded used to be so good but got nerfed over a arena set that no one uses anymore anyways.
Rending slashes is lackluster
Steel tornado is useless because whirlwind blades exists.
Quick cloak is garbage

Flying dagger is a pvp skill that got buffed. Hurray for pvp!

There will be growing pains. 2h is too strong as a pve backbar. There's no reason not to use stampede. I wish they'd go through and reduce stampede a little bit while turning unstable wall of frost into a pure dps morph which is good, buffing shock wall, deadly cloak and endless hail

I'll see your "no reason not to use stampede" and raise you VAS.

It's always been the case that melee is supposed to be stronger than ranged, because playing at range is more flexible. That's not about mag / stam / hybrid, it's just always been the case. Stampede has a much smaller aoe than unstable wall, you can't use it as an aoe spammable with the same efficacy, using it pulls you right in to the enemy so if he's in the middle of an intense short range aoe, you may die. It's easy enough to do with a moment's carelessness even with the gargoyle adds in VHR. No risk of that with wall of elements (or endless hail for that matter). I don't think hybridisation has really changed anything in the relative strength of melee / ranged skills except that it's got traditionally ranged magicka players interested in melee skills. Stamina players have had the choice of ranged / melee back bar dots for ages and many still choose VMA bow / endless hail over VMA greatsword / stampede specifically for the flexibility.
I think in practice we'll see a wider range of setups ranging from pure melee to pure ranged, trading off damage against flexibility as has always been the way, but now with a wider choice of skills to choose from. Given the Devs went through an extensive exercise of aligning skills to their standards the other year I doubt we'll see much in the way of nerfs or buffs to skills, except perhaps as part of their upcoming effort to improve 'dead morphs'.

One thing I really hope it will achieve is getting players away from the blinkered view of a single unchanging setup for a character. Perhaps we see it more on console because of lack of Dressing Room, but there's a view that you grind a character to CP, get skill points in whatever [insert favourite youtuber here] uses, put on a single unchanging gear outload and that's you all 'meta'. The concept of having a range of gear setups and skill setups for different content seems a bit alien to a lot of players.