Account Wide Achievements

wenchmore420b14_ESO · February 2022

Ok, so the Feed Back PTS thread is at 34+ pages and growing with LOTS of opinions on this subject.
Not to re-hash the pros & cons, but just curious as to how many want this to go live and how many don't.

phaneub17_ESO · February 2022

Other - Discuss

Personally I don't care about achievements, only that I get to collect stuff from doing them like color palettes, mounts, skins, and such; the rest is just filler stuff that provide no meaning. I also care about being able to play content on multiple characters especially ones that have different routes. I am bothered by the automatic collection of learned mats such as alchemy and enchanting, for new alts those are easy skill up points in the later levels like around 45 when it can breeze through those last few points easily. Having them already learned on new alts means more crafting my way through should new characters become available.

However, if crafting motif knowledge become available account wide it means I'm not wasting master writs on my main who doesn't have anymore skills to learn and just filler exp for champion points, at 1800+ you're not really filling anything of actual use except in the Crafting tree. I can start using them on alt as free exp boosts for their unlearned skills and morphs.

Jim_Pipp · February 2022

No

Was against it every time it was discussed before, but I can accept it if ZOS choose to implement it well.

I feel they have half-baked the implementation, and aren't listening to people on the PTS who are pointing out the bugs that will cause issues when it goes live. Some people are grinding achievements furiously to avoid these bugs, others will have an unpleasant surprise on patch day, neither will be happy, and ZOS aren't communicating that they understand... this a major change and not even a news article?

colossalvoids · February 2022

Yes

Depends? Like is it "as is" or do I only like it when it's actually fixed for bugs etc.

Overall I see more positives for myself personally than negatives, hence the vote but it surely needs some work on and at the very least iron out all the inconsistencies and "unintended" results from merge/implementation.

Jaraal · February 2022

No

No because they are removing the incentive to replay content on our other characters, and treating all the time and effort we've spent on separate achievements for our alts as if they couldn't care less about it.

Also, with so many bugged quests and other anomalies with AWA currently on the test server, there's no way they will be able to fix everything in time if they go ahead and push this through. It's going to be a nightmare for all and a very unpleasant surprise for the 99.9% of players who don't come to the forums or read patch notes.

Grandchamp1989 · February 2022

Yes

Yes please, I would very much like for the things I have done across 10+ character's being visible on my main character, so I don't have to re-do the same things all over.

proprio.meb16_ESO · February 2022

No

Nope, at least until content breaking issues are not carefully looked upon... the actual implementation of awa is just not acceptable, even by those (and i'm one) in favour of it

ADarklore · February 2022

Other - Discuss

If they manage to fix the issues that they are seeing that prevent people from replaying quests, then I'm in favor. Although, the only thing I really care about with this is the 'titles' since I believe once any character completes something they should have the title for it... because obviously if they completed the content once, they know how to do it.

What I don't want, as we're seeing on PTS, is for skyshards, dungeon completions, etc... to be marked as 'completed' on the map when the current character hasn't completed them. Although, this could be an addon issue as well- as in the addon is using the achievement to mark whether something is completed or not... which will mean addon authors have to find another way of marking these.

However, there have also been issues where certain quests are not even available or not able to complete once accepted because it's already marked as completed. I feel that ANY quest in the game should be replayable regardless of 'achievement' completion. Why would ZOS think that players want quests removed from the game?!? As others have stated, this simply makes the creation of alts pointless and takes away XP as well.

_Zathras_ · February 2022

Other - Discuss

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Not to re-hash the pros & cons,

I think a toggle would be best, like addons. So, if you don't want account wide achievements on your alt, you don't have to activate it.

sionIV · February 2022

No

I'm not going to support the removal of something that has been in the game since the start. I'm perfectly fine with them ADDING account wide achievements, but not with them removing individual character achievements.

AlnilamE · February 2022

No

Not as currently implemented.

I wouldn't mind a system where you can track things account-wide, but you can also see what each character has done.

Kynetik · February 2022

Yes

Jaraal wrote: »

treating all the time and effort we've spent on separate achievements for our alts as if they couldn't care less about it.

I see account wide achievements as the devs respecting our time in game by not making us replay content we have already completed

AlnilamE · February 2022

No

Kynetik wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

treating all the time and effort we've spent on separate achievements for our alts as if they couldn't care less about it.

I see account wide achievements as the devs respecting our time in game by not making us replay content we have already completed

That would be fine if the game was designed like this from the start, but as it stands, many of us have repeated achievements on alts, as well as used achievements to track what our alts have completed. The way the system is being implemented, all that time will be invalidated.

Danel_Vadan · February 2022

Yes

This change will make it much more enticing to play alts. Really looking forward to completing a lot of the "kill x" achievements across the board!

Sylvermynx · February 2022

Other - Discuss

I don't care one way or the other personally, because I got over "achievements" in grade school. I find them seriously silly in a game like this. Also don't care about titles.

However, that said, I would at this point like ZOS to step up before releasing this change to make it so both "sides" will be happy with it. That seems to be the logical thing to have happen, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to get fixed.

[I don't see the "removed incentive to play alts" issue either - I'll still play all of my many alts, because I just don't care about achievements or titles, and I'll make more alts when a character pops into my head and insists s/he's ready to be "born".]

Kynetik · February 2022

Yes

AlnilamE wrote: »

Kynetik wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

treating all the time and effort we've spent on separate achievements for our alts as if they couldn't care less about it.

I see account wide achievements as the devs respecting our time in game by not making us replay content we have already completed

That would be fine if the game was designed like this from the start, but as it stands, many of us have repeated achievements on alts, as well as used achievements to track what our alts have completed. The way the system is being implemented, all that time will be invalidated.

So you want me to replay content on alts because of your time spent?

Elsonso · February 2022

Other - Discuss

Yes, but ESO has been character-based for 8 years and should not throw that out. They need to sit down and do it right, so that it feels like a positive thing to both sides of this debate.

etchedpixels · February 2022

Other - Discuss

If they can fix the bugs so my level 3 toon isn't bombarded by people thanking them for things they didn't do, I can walk into Elsweyr without simultaneously getting dialog about both before and after the storyline and quests are not all broken because of the change (right now it's a car crash on PTS with quests having two people sitting in the same throne, quests self completing on the second toon, quests unstartable on the second toon and so on)

And if they can fix all the maps, guides and tracking so it actually shows what my character has yet to do not my account...

If you've not played PTS you've probably got no idea how mindbogglingly broken it all is at this point, even by ESO standards of buggy - and there's not long left before U33 goes live.

Kesstryl · February 2022

No

I vote no for now as it is currently implemented on PTS. If they didn't eliminate individual character progress and achievement tracking, either got rid of or changed the "completed by" thing to include all alts who achieved it, and untied certain quests from achievements so those affected quests would become repeatable on alts, I'd probably vote yes even though I have no vested interest in account wide achievements. I don't mind supporting how others play even if I have no use for it, but please don't take away what I already have and replace it.

Vaoh · February 2022

Yes

I stopped caring about achievements way back in 2017 because I wanted to actually have fun by playing the Warden class.

This change alone has made me care again so thank you ZOS. Spreading my progress across multiple characters is now no longer a waste.

Araneae6537 · February 2022

No

Proper accountwide achievements that didn’t impact your ability to play a new character however you want, interact with all NPCs based on that character’s quests and choices only, okay.

But the FUBAR mess currently on the PTS? **** NO!

Danikat · February 2022

Yes

Of course they should fix the bugs which have come up, especially the ones which make it impossible to complete some quests more than once. (Especially since at least one of those has multiple possible outcomes.)

But as long as that's done I think the change will be a good one overall. It's annoying to have to switch characters to buy an achievement reward or having something which counts towards an achievement drop by chance when I'm on the 'wrong' character, or having to repeat things I'm not actually interested in doing again or which that character wouldn't do just because of the achievement. Repeating content should be something players choose to do because they enjoy it.

kargen27 · February 2022

Other - Discuss

I don't care if others have account wide achievements.

I don't want what one character does on my account to affect my other characters. I don't want a fish an alternate catches to count towards the achievement for any character other than the alternate that caught it.

Tandor · February 2022

No

It's important that those who favour account-wide achievements don't vote for the principle, but for the actual implementation currently on the PTS. Those opposed to it on the official feedback thread on the PTS forum include supporters of the principle of achievements being account-wide, but they don't agree with the way it is being implemented.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/596970/pts-update-33-feedback-thread-for-account-wide-achievements/p1

Dark_Lord_Kuro · February 2022

Yes

They just need to repair some quest and make th map completition separate from the acheivement and it would be one of the best quality of life update since lauch

I also have been wondering if this as anything to do with the ps4 and ps5 trophy now synching? If so thank you zos to listen to your psn community and synch our trophies

wenchmore420b14_ESO · February 2022

No

Tandor wrote: »

It's important that those who favour account-wide achievements don't vote for the principle, but for the actual implementation currently on the PTS. Those opposed to it on the official feedback thread on the PTS forum include supporters of the principle of achievements being account-wide, but they don't agree with the way it is being implemented.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/596970/pts-update-33-feedback-thread-for-account-wide-achievements/p1

100% agree.
When I saw the World Reveal I thought, hmmm, might be kinda cool.
Then I got on PTS and actually saw the results on my main and several alts, and saw just how this new change will limit ALL my alts in gaining rewards, doing certain quests, and just making my well loved and INDIVIDUAL characters just a "Generic Toon".
Also, this is FAR from the "best QoL" addition since launch. (March 2014).
My 2 drakes....
Huzzah!

AlnilamE · February 2022

No

Kynetik wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Kynetik wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

treating all the time and effort we've spent on separate achievements for our alts as if they couldn't care less about it.

I see account wide achievements as the devs respecting our time in game by not making us replay content we have already completed

That would be fine if the game was designed like this from the start, but as it stands, many of us have repeated achievements on alts, as well as used achievements to track what our alts have completed. The way the system is being implemented, all that time will be invalidated.

So you want me to replay content on alts because of your time spent?

No, I want you to have access to an account overview of achievements so you can do what you want, while I still have access to my individual characters' achievements so I can do what I want.

Sheezabeast · February 2022

No

AlnilamE wrote: »

Kynetik wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

Kynetik wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

treating all the time and effort we've spent on separate achievements for our alts as if they couldn't care less about it.

I see account wide achievements as the devs respecting our time in game by not making us replay content we have already completed

That would be fine if the game was designed like this from the start, but as it stands, many of us have repeated achievements on alts, as well as used achievements to track what our alts have completed. The way the system is being implemented, all that time will be invalidated.

So you want me to replay content on alts because of your time spent?

No, I want you to have access to an account overview of achievements so you can do what you want, while I still have access to my individual characters' achievements so I can do what I want.

Yes, respect both player paths, both player headspaces.

Luke_Flamesword · February 2022

Other - Discuss

Yes, respect both player paths, both player headspaces.

Yup, this is the only reasonable way - just make it right having both character and account wide achievements. I don't know why this is even a problem, when they track some achievements individually anyway (so why not all of them?).

matterandstuff · February 2022

No

It's pointless to run a poll like this, because you're getting a poll about the *in-principle idea* of accountwide achievements.

This means that people vote yes, thinking that it will be implemented in the way that most complements their playstyle - not what ZOS has actually done on PTS, which breaks even character zone progress tracking/progress (and therefore replayability) to a level unexpected by I think any side of the argument.

I think both a lot of the "yes" people who haven't been paying attention to what's on the PTS are going to get a really nasty surprise when Update 33 goes live, and ZOS are in turn going to get a really nasty surprise at the overall backlash to how badly they've stuffed up.

SilverBride · February 2022

No

I don't want them playing my game for me.

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