[Datamine] Mount Morph of the Soulfire Dragon Illusion Pet

RisenEclipse · February 2022

[snip] I think I'm going to save my tickets for whatever else is in the ticket vendor at the time, or not collect at all this year...

[edited for rude comment]

Sylvermynx · February 2022

Yeah, I'm just not a fan of the heavyweights. I never use the senche-raht mount, can't stand the motion. *sad*

DarcyMardin · February 2022

Didn’t like the first one (last year’s) either. OK, NP, I can ease off on events this year since I won’t need many tickets.

phaneub17_ESO · February 2022

Waits for rideable dragon.

Faulgor · February 2022

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

RemanCyrodiil_I wrote: »

A bitterly disappointing reskin. What's this got to do with Akatosh?

They are my favorite after normal horses.

Um. Akatosh AKA Auri-El.... Aurielic quasigriff...

I think @RemanCyrodiil_I ’s point is that appending Akatosh/Auri-El/Alkosh/Martin Septim’s name to a thing doesn’t automatically associate it with him. It needs more legwork lore-wise. Otherwise I could take a sharpie to the box of mix and go make me some Aurielic brownies.

Drat, now I want brownies.

Auri-El is often depicted as or with an eagle. This fits absolutely fine, as opposed to the association with Dagon last year.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Yeah, I'm just not a fan of the heavyweights. I never use the senche-raht mount, can't stand the motion. *sad*

They are my favorite after normal horses. It's everything else that has awful motions!

James-Wayne · February 2022

So same as mine black one from last year but gold. Yay. Here we go again.

Sylvermynx · February 2022

Faulgor wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

RemanCyrodiil_I wrote: »

A bitterly disappointing reskin. What's this got to do with Akatosh?

They are my favorite after normal horses.

Um. Akatosh AKA Auri-El.... Aurielic quasigriff...

I think @RemanCyrodiil_I ’s point is that appending Akatosh/Auri-El/Alkosh/Martin Septim’s name to a thing doesn’t automatically associate it with him. It needs more legwork lore-wise. Otherwise I could take a sharpie to the box of mix and go make me some Aurielic brownies.

Drat, now I want brownies.

Auri-El is often depicted as or with an eagle. This fits absolutely fine, as opposed to the association with Dagon last year.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Yeah, I'm just not a fan of the heavyweights. I never use the senche-raht mount, can't stand the motion. *sad*

They are my favorite after normal horses. It's everything else that has awful motions!

Heh. Yeah. Each to her own. The horses drive me nuts (long time horsewoman here....) - they're.... just not *right* in any way as to conformation. Yeah yeah, I know Tamriel isn't Earth - but hey, I could come up with a "not-Earth" horse that made more sense, and looked like it was "normal" for the world.

But the problem with the heavyweights, the camels and the bears is that the action messes with my vertigo. I can't fix the vertigo (as the only option is - well, not an option) because there's no effective counter to the problem. So.... I use the mounts that don't cause me to wish I'd never been born - and then do whatever necessary to NOT get so sick I have to....

Eh, no one needs that level of "detail".

Eormenric · February 2022

Provided this holds true...

Editing bashing snip to instead voice this concern: You're right Sarah, they still did do something to the original mount and therefore it cannot be construed purely as laziness. However, the amount of effort involved is not of quality content or a goal to offer unique rewards to players.

They can do better than this. Really disappointed that we're going the way of Indriks again.

I will not be participating in events this year. Thanks for freeing up my schedule, OP.

katanagirl1 · February 2022

Well, my one complaint about the previously overly dark quasigriff has been addressed but I am still disappointed for some reason.

Maybe because it’s too light but the same in every other way? I take it back, I like the dark one better. If guess I will still get it just for completion’s sake.

Araneae6537 · February 2022

tonyblack wrote: »

Lame, I was hoping for more personalities. It's easier to buy much better mounts with endeavors now.

I hope we’re still getting a personality morph! I absolutely love the Firewalker one from last year!

TX12001rwb17_ESO · February 2022

Really?

They are just retexturing it? this is no different to what they did with the Indriks.

tonyblack · February 2022

Araneae6537 wrote: »

tonyblack wrote: »

Lame, I was hoping for more personalities. It's easier to buy much better mounts with endeavors now.

I hope we’re still getting a personality morph! I absolutely love the Firewalker one from last year!

Same, it’s the only event reward from last year I actually liked and used.

saar · February 2022

Someone said it looked like Big Bird, now I can't unsee.

Faulgor · February 2022

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Faulgor wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

RemanCyrodiil_I wrote: »

A bitterly disappointing reskin. What's this got to do with Akatosh?

They are my favorite after normal horses.

Um. Akatosh AKA Auri-El.... Aurielic quasigriff...

I think @RemanCyrodiil_I ’s point is that appending Akatosh/Auri-El/Alkosh/Martin Septim’s name to a thing doesn’t automatically associate it with him. It needs more legwork lore-wise. Otherwise I could take a sharpie to the box of mix and go make me some Aurielic brownies.

Drat, now I want brownies.

Auri-El is often depicted as or with an eagle. This fits absolutely fine, as opposed to the association with Dagon last year.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Yeah, I'm just not a fan of the heavyweights. I never use the senche-raht mount, can't stand the motion. *sad*

They are my favorite after normal horses. It's everything else that has awful motions!

Heh. Yeah. Each to her own. The horses drive me nuts (long time horsewoman here....) - they're.... just not *right* in any way as to conformation. Yeah yeah, I know Tamriel isn't Earth - but hey, I could come up with a "not-Earth" horse that made more sense, and looked like it was "normal" for the world.

But the problem with the heavyweights, the camels and the bears is that the action messes with my vertigo. I can't fix the vertigo (as the only option is - well, not an option) because there's no effective counter to the problem. So.... I use the mounts that don't cause me to wish I'd never been born - and then do whatever necessary to NOT get so sick I have to....

Eh, no one needs that level of "detail".

Oh, compared to real horses they are of course ridiculous, I just prefer their skeleton to other mounts in the game. Elks are fine too, I think they share most properties.
My main issue is how my character sits on a mount, and I feel with horses and heavyweights, they sit most firmly in the saddle. Bipeds look a bit weird but are mostly fine. With e.g. Senche, I always feel like I'm about to fall off, which makes my scoliosis act up through some strange mirror-neuron magic lol.
So yeah, to each their own.

Olauron · February 2022

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

RemanCyrodiil_I wrote: »

A bitterly disappointing reskin. What's this got to do with Akatosh?

Um. Akatosh AKA Auri-El.... Aurielic quasigriff...

I think @RemanCyrodiil_I ’s point is that appending Akatosh/Auri-El/Alkosh/Martin Septim’s name to a thing doesn’t automatically associate it with him. It needs more legwork lore-wise. Otherwise I could take a sharpie to the box of mix and go make me some Aurielic brownies.

Drat, now I want brownies.

As we know from the Snow Elf tradition, one of the aspects of Auri-El is sun. Another aspect is bird (eagle). Does this mount look like quasisun quasibird?

Xebov · February 2022

So we go from 4 deers a year in different colors to 1 gryffon a year in different colors. Somehow we are unable to get something more lizard or wyvern like that would fit the theme much better.

SammyKhajit · February 2022

Nice colour but like the camel and bear mounts, they make this one motion sick.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · February 2022

Olauron wrote: »

As we know from the Snow Elf tradition, one of the aspects of Auri-El is sun. Another aspect is bird (eagle). Does this mount look like quasisun quasibird?

No.

TiberX · February 2022

Don't like these crows on wheels thingies, no matter the reskin.😝

Sheezabeast · February 2022

Do you think you have to have the first mount to make this one? I skipped out on it because I did not like it's concept. This one looks like a roided out chicken, and I like it. Can I get it with the pet?

Sylvermynx · February 2022

Yes, it's going to work just like last year. Morph the pet into the quasigriff using the upcoming mount parts. Unless they change something up anyway - and that could always happen I guess!

Benzux · February 2022

Was going to avoid looking at datamines to surprise myself, but then Twitter decided to slap this model onto my timeline for some effing reason, so I guess I'll join the discussion then.

I do understand where people are getting their disappointment from. I wasn't expecting another quasigriff either, but it does at least make sense. Akatosh and Auri-El are basically the same deity (leaving the heavy lore discussion - as much as I would love it - out of this now), worshipped by two different groups of people. The Imperials associate Akatosh with dragons, which makes the Soulfire Illusion pet make sense - the pet fragments refer to Imperial traditions regarding worship of Akatosh. The Altmer, however, associate Auri-El with eagles, so the mount being griffin-like makes sense. I'd expect that the mount fragments will refer to elven traditions and rituals regarding their worship of Auri-El, to reflect this duality of the chief deity of the Divines (this also makes me interested in the other rewards/morphs we'll be getting this year - will they continue with this duality or explore other aspects of Akatosh, such as the Nords' connecting him to Alduin?).

As for the people mentioning "draconic" mounts... Sure, they would be cool, but also completely illogical from a lore standpoint. Dragons are the only draconic creatures there are, and they sure as heck aren't going to let just any old chum ride them, lol. The closest we have is certain reptilian beasts, like the Wamasu. So, basically unless we get to go further into Black Marsh in a future expansion/DLC and get to see Swamp Leviathans or any similar creatures that the devs can "downscale" into mounts, we aren't getting any "draconic" or "dragon-like" reptilian mounts any time soon.

I'll be getting the mount because it doesn't look too terrible and because I'm a completionist, but it is kinda disappointing to see another quasigriff mount.

unholy_nox · February 2022

Benzux wrote: »

Was going to avoid looking at datamines to surprise myself, but then Twitter decided to slap this model onto my timeline for some effing reason, so I guess I'll join the discussion then.

I do understand where people are getting their disappointment from. I wasn't expecting another quasigriff either, but it does at least make sense. Akatosh and Auri-El are basically the same deity (leaving the heavy lore discussion - as much as I would love it - out of this now), worshipped by two different groups of people. The Imperials associate Akatosh with dragons, which makes the Soulfire Illusion pet make sense - the pet fragments refer to Imperial traditions regarding worship of Akatosh. The Altmer, however, associate Auri-El with eagles, so the mount being griffin-like makes sense. I'd expect that the mount fragments will refer to elven traditions and rituals regarding their worship of Auri-El, to reflect this duality of the chief deity of the Divines (this also makes me interested in the other rewards/morphs we'll be getting this year - will they continue with this duality or explore other aspects of Akatosh, such as the Nords' connecting him to Alduin?).

As for the people mentioning "draconic" mounts... Sure, they would be cool, but also completely illogical from a lore standpoint. Dragons are the only draconic creatures there are, and they sure as heck aren't going to let just any old chum ride them, lol. The closest we have is certain reptilian beasts, like the Wamasu. So, basically unless we get to go further into Black Marsh in a future expansion/DLC and get to see Swamp Leviathans or any similar creatures that the devs can "downscale" into mounts, we aren't getting any "draconic" or "dragon-like" reptilian mounts any time soon.

I'll be getting the mount because it doesn't look too terrible and because I'm a completionist, but it is kinda disappointing to see another quasigriff mount.

Let's don't use lore mantra here , most of flashy skins from crown crates does look illogical from a lore standpoint , but no one care about it , so why should we care that "Draconic" don't fit the lore?Zos added so much non-loric content , what "Draconic"mounts is the last problem in terms of lore.

SpiritKitten · February 2022

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Heh. Yeah. Each to her own. The horses drive me nuts (long time horsewoman here....) - they're.... just not *right* in any way as to conformation. Yeah yeah, I know Tamriel isn't Earth - but hey, I could come up with a "not-Earth" horse that made more sense, and looked like it was "normal" for the world.

But the problem with the heavyweights, the camels and the bears is that the action messes with my vertigo. I can't fix the vertigo (as the only option is - well, not an option) because there's no effective counter to the problem. So.... I use the mounts that don't cause me to wish I'd never been born - and then do whatever necessary to NOT get so sick I have to....

Eh, no one needs that level of "detail".

Hey there, I had vertigo for 2 years, so I hear you. Mine was fixed by a specialist using a 'vertigo maneuver'. I still get seasick from certain animations, and some camera shenanigans in videos. I also prefer certain mounts based on their gait.

Chips_Ahoy · February 2022

again more reskins?

more of the same?

was not enough with the deer?

They say they listen to feedback.

Actions say otherwise.

Sylvermynx · February 2022

SpiritKitten wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Heh. Yeah. Each to her own. The horses drive me nuts (long time horsewoman here....) - they're.... just not *right* in any way as to conformation. Yeah yeah, I know Tamriel isn't Earth - but hey, I could come up with a "not-Earth" horse that made more sense, and looked like it was "normal" for the world.

But the problem with the heavyweights, the camels and the bears is that the action messes with my vertigo. I can't fix the vertigo (as the only option is - well, not an option) because there's no effective counter to the problem. So.... I use the mounts that don't cause me to wish I'd never been born - and then do whatever necessary to NOT get so sick I have to....

Eh, no one needs that level of "detail".

Hey there, I had vertigo for 2 years, so I hear you. Mine was fixed by a specialist using a 'vertigo maneuver'. I still get seasick from certain animations, and some camera shenanigans in videos. I also prefer certain mounts based on their gait.

Yeah, wish that had worked for me. Mine is a genetic thing - every woman on my mother's side of the family (back to my great-great grandmother and her sisters) has had to deal with it. Hopefully they'll figure out some gene thing they can do for me eventually!

Sheezabeast · February 2022

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Yes, it's going to work just like last year. Morph the pet into the quasigriff using the upcoming mount parts. Unless they change something up anyway - and that could always happen I guess!

Okie thanks

I really don't like the solid black texture of the first mount, and really like this one, so I'm glad it isn't a pre-requisite to having this one, hopefully.

SydneyGrey · February 2022

Some people are sad that it's a recoloring, but it's literally the first time this mount has been recolored. *Shrugs *

I'm quite happy with it. My Aldmeri Dominion High Elf needs it.