Sorceror gets so many magicka regenerating/cost reduction etc etc abilities, I dont see why a heavy armored sorc wielding a staff wouldn't work.

I like two handed weapons. Stampede, uppercut serves me well. Especially when you have some bosses with mobs all over. Stampede can move you instantly to hit and nuke death. Back up weapon should be a restore staff though

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Coming from a Sorcerer, I honestly think DK is better for what type of role you want.

Yeah, I'll be keeping my baby DK around in case I fail at this endeavor. But I wanted to take full advantage of ESO's flexible skill system and see if I can create something new and fun for me.

Thanks everyone for the weapon suggestions. Your responses and further reading have given me good ideas about different ways I might go.

zamiel wrote: »

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Destruction staff is a joke, with the exception of Pulsar.

I disagree with you. Pulsar is godly (especially since I'm a NB). Elemental blockade is okay. Fire clench however lets you solo about all the world/dugneon bosses with ease which is extremely handy. Especially in veteran levels when these hit for a good 1k damage and due to adds you don't have any room to move.

Destructive clench is good at low levels, but its not as good as Restraining Prison with the passive to increase crit on targets of dark magic by 15%. Plus it hits all targets not just one.

Edit, keep in mind that the topic is sorcerers. I realize you said you are a NB, but my opinion of the staff was based on the sorcerer class, not NB.

zamiel wrote: »

SexyVette07 wrote: »

Edit, keep in mind that the topic is sorcerers. I realize you said you are a NB, but my opinion of the staff was based on the sorcerer class, not NB.

Yes, I was aware.
Restraining prison is awesome against lots of trash, however it's useless against boss mobs as it roots them in place only. Clench knocks them back giving you breathing space and also it (obviously) breaks any casting, channeled abilities and stuns&knocks down.

You rarely have enough space to kite a world/dungeon boss, not mentioning that restraining prison costs a good 50% more mag.

I'm not bashing on restraining prison, it's an awesome cast, but against single target mobs destructive clench is far superior.

I dont have access to the game at the moment, but im pretty sure its not that high, maybe 25-33% more, but I dont think its 50% more. At any rate, they both have their uses. As long as the mob isnt free casting while at ranged, ill still stick with Restraining Prison. At max rank, it roots and snares for about 10 seconds. Cant ignore the 15% additional crit either and it heals you for 5% max health every time you use it. I use Crystal Shards anyway, which knocks down the same as Clench as long as they arent immune. So in almost every circumstance, Destructive Clench is just a waste of a skill slot for me.

SexyVette07 wrote: »

I dont have access to the game at the moment, but im pretty sure its not that high, maybe 25-33% more, but I dont think its 50% more...

It's 532 vs 364, so it's 46% more.
Character skills are usually extremely costly, weapon skills (especially destro stuff) are really low-budget skills.

@ZenMonkey, you are using words like "better" or "best for build", but have never actually told us your build's purpose.

Will it be PvP or PvE?
Solo or group?
What role or functions do you want to fill?

I'll share my bit on this. Breton sorcerer, lvl 43 now, racials all maxed whenever available, and 5 points into light armor and a couple more into medium. The reason why I was sort of 'trapped' into magicka addiction is because our class skills are so powerful for single target dps.

From the start I have always wanted a bow and something else. I put some SPs into bows but guess what, the majority of my damage (from lv 0-now) is basically 3 skills : Crystal Fragments morphed, Velocious Curse morphed and Mages Fury morphed. For bows its poisonous arrow and some passives, and it turns out my bow is just used for stamina sink (to balance so that I dont run out of magicka and still have full stam). The last slot is usually reserved for my clannfear. I never even have the need to swap weapons so my other 5 slot is almost obsolete.

This setup works wonders when leveling. But I got addicted to magicka so much I didnt realize I was actually setting myself up for glass cannon build. Spamming those 3 skills meant magicka was a problem. Sometimes pot is not enough sometimes is does. I got to the point where I hit softcap on mag.recovery and mag. amount. Lo and behold, I entered Reapers March. Lv 40. If i happen to aimlessly wander into a pack of 3 mobs, with 5L2M setup, I will actually die if i dont gulp a potion or have health buffs.

Just be careful with our class abilities, sometimes they felt so powerful until the game fights back on later levels. Now i am 5H2L with dual wield and faring quite a bit better on survivability

Varivox9 wrote: »

I don't even need much in the way of heavy armour as long as I use bound armour (lightning form is a good survival skill too) and I can use light armour passives to further my already great magicka regen.

I was planning to stick with heavy armor, but I'll be sure to put points into light armor if/when I reach the point where I need more magicka than armor. I just really like the idea of a mage in heavy armor, since it's not something you can play in most games, but I realize that might end up gimping me later on.

Crescent wrote: »

Stick with Dual Wield, it's superior damage sustained. Get blood craze, regen from resto staff+ cycle of life for that 10% extra damage. Save your magicka for thundering presence and surge precasts alongside the regen.

Things at vet rank hit really, really hard, so you either need to be full glass cannon to kill them before they kill you, or have enough self healing to last.

Don't use plate, it's worthless and a leather sorc will get you far more healing.

That's all assuming range.

The only situation where 2h shines is on large packs of mobs where you cleave spam with brawler. For every other scenario dual wield is superior, with much better single target dps for bosses.

You made it sound like in veteran there are only certain builds viable to comfortably make it through. A bit like Diablo 3's high end paragons of old? So at least im prepared of whats coming in a couple of days time lol

cisadanepajsuxrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Crescent wrote: »

Stick with Dual Wield, it's superior damage sustained. Get blood craze, regen from resto staff+ cycle of life for that 10% extra damage. Save your magicka for thundering presence and surge precasts alongside the regen.

Things at vet rank hit really, really hard, so you either need to be full glass cannon to kill them before they kill you, or have enough self healing to last.

Don't use plate, it's worthless and a leather sorc will get you far more healing.

That's all assuming range.

The only situation where 2h shines is on large packs of mobs where you cleave spam with brawler. For every other scenario dual wield is superior, with much better single target dps for bosses.

You made it sound like in veteran there are only certain builds viable to comfortably make it through. A bit like Diablo 3's high end paragons of old? So at least im prepared of whats coming in a couple of days time lol

That's the case. Like in any game with many options, some options tower over the others.

zamiel wrote: »

Veteran levels are painful, especially bosses. With 1000 armor they hit you for 1500 damage in a heavy attack. There are also quite a few bosses that cast insane spells - the siren's whilry stuff and the lightning storms comes to my mind - they deal somewhere around 2000 damage through an overcharged spell resist. Regular mobs are somewhat more manageable, but they still are capable of hitting you with throwing daggers for about 600.

It seems like someone has problems with blocking...

why not just wear light and put points into bound armor and boundless storm?

I'm VR2 (VR3 soon) high elf sorcerer.... and heavy armor. I switch between a bow and a restro staff and play 90% solo up to this point. It's a tuff world out there but so far I'm doing ok. I have most of the skill lines and my two weapons maxed out on the perks but I do favor 2-3 of my skills on both bars. Bolt escape, crystal shards, and my pet dino help a lot (I was fighting mobs of 3-5 today, and they were VR3 level mobs)..........tuff but doable if you use the right tactics.