Its nice for stamina builds not wanting to be an vampire and and having good movement speed during heists and similar.ShawnLaRock wrote: »Hopefully this gets looked at soon (as well as a few other sets working incorrectly since Deadlands patch)- but I am unaware of a use for this set, when much better sneaking / thieving / pickpocketing / movement / speed setups exist.
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Its nice for stamina builds not wanting to be an vampire and and having good movement speed during heists and similar.ShawnLaRock wrote: »Hopefully this gets looked at soon (as well as a few other sets working incorrectly since Deadlands patch)- but I am unaware of a use for this set, when much better sneaking / thieving / pickpocketing / movement / speed setups exist.
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The other sneak sets is mostly for increasing stealth who is diminishing return, and yes wild hunt can pretty much replace night silence, not as fast but just one item.
Wonder if the overland magic set with ignore speed penalty during sneak work or if it has the same bug?
ShawnLaRock wrote: »All good. My only argument comes when comparing the usefulness of speed vs stealth in any of those examples.
Plus - if you run 2/4 of your Darloc pieces as Hidden Moon Band rings - that come with Swift trait already on them… any speed boosts from a set line, are moot.
Just think of the ratio of time when you are running a Heist. How much of that time are you actually utilizing any sort of speed boost - vs crouched and waiting for a lantern to pass, or to get an NPC to reposition?
The mechanic always gives you enough time to hide in a basket as a guard passes, to be able to use a hallway, for example.
Remember - at it’s base, all of that content is designed to be done with no help from gear. You can easily do it on a lumbering tank as soon as you have done it a small number of times to recognize the movement patterns; secret passages; and preferred route.
Being sneaky allows you more leeway in making mistakes; not having to wait the extra second or two when an NPC passes; etc. A speed boost only gets you from purposeful pinch-point to pinch-point. You still gotta not be seen waiting. And waiting. And waiting.
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ShawnLaRock wrote: »All good. My only argument comes when comparing the usefulness of speed vs stealth in any of those examples.
Plus - if you run 2/4 of your Darloc pieces as Hidden Moon Band rings - that come with Swift trait already on them… any speed boosts from a set line, are moot.
Just think of the ratio of time when you are running a Heist. How much of that time are you actually utilizing any sort of speed boost - vs crouched and waiting for a lantern to pass, or to get an NPC to reposition?
The mechanic always gives you enough time to hide in a basket as a guard passes, to be able to use a hallway, for example.
Remember - at it’s base, all of that content is designed to be done with no help from gear. You can easily do it on a lumbering tank as soon as you have done it a small number of times to recognize the movement patterns; secret passages; and preferred route.
Being sneaky allows you more leeway in making mistakes; not having to wait the extra second or two when an NPC passes; etc. A speed boost only gets you from purposeful pinch-point to pinch-point. You still gotta not be seen waiting. And waiting. And waiting.
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Is there any list of sneak sets somewhere that are still working? Night's Silence used to be a part of my sneak setup. (along with Night Terror and Draloc Brae)Yeah, I doubt it will ever be fixed at this rate. It's multiple sneak skill based sets that aren't working currently. It's destroyed my sneaky builds on all my toons... I have like 50 pieces of night's silence ready for decon because I have doubts... I want my mats back!!
Found that nights silence + ring of wild hunt made you so fast sneaking that you had an risk of running into people but more traps who then made them see youI did vamp + adept + Darlocs for a while. My stealth speed and mag sustain was insane.
I really don't think you can be too fast. Could knock out Elven Guards daily in 60 seconds and easily get back to base against the timer on the hardest Sacraments and heists.