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Proposal: weather adjustments
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Adremal✭✭✭✭✭Yes, please!There is really no reason to have denser or harder rain and snowfall since it has no real effect in-game.
I beg to differ, can be very important - take New World, one of its only redeeming features is looking pretty. I would've stopped playing it a lot sooner if not for the eye-candy alone, that's for sure.
A simple setting to turn off enhanced weather effects would make this a non-issue as far as performances are concerned (and weather effects are rarely resource-intensive).
Which demonstrates that it is not that important and probably not worth the effort. We are playing ESO because it is a great game and we left NW because it is not.
On the contrary, it's very important. Part of NW's appeal was the eye-candy. ESO has eye-candy too, although it's more related to architecture, lore and nostalgia - that doesn't mean other aspects of it couldn't be improved. It's the same with spell effect and graphics in general. But let's drop NW and look at MMOs that went on for a decade or more. They all had graphics improvement over the course of the years, it's only natural. Even if we were to drop MMOs and focus on video games in general, why is it that remasters done right are so successful? It's 90% because of the graphics; successful remasters (I'm thinking, for instance, Resident Evil and Mass Effect) had very little in the way of gameplay / QOL enhancements and tweaks, which proves that graphics is indeed a very important aspect in any game. Even when it comes to the TES series, graphical mods are able to keep Skyrim on par with current titles, and Oblivion close to it. Morroblivion or however it was called also did wonders to a game whose graphics aged badly. All proofs that graphics matter an enormous deal.
ESO has nice graphics and no one can argue that it could be improved though we will disagree on how. But NW is a great example that going for a little nice graphic appearance is much less important than the actual substance of the game. Also, if bringing up RE and ME MMOs, they are both newer games so should be nicer looking but more importantly both fell short because they lacked overall. So while graphics help, if the games lack substance those graphics are meaningless. ESO has a great balance which is why it is one of the top paid MMORPGs vs NW that has already lost close to 90% of their player base.
So my vote is Zenimax is doing a great job. I would suggest most of us are here because we feel that way.
I don't understand - newer games? Resident Evil 2 came out in 1998, the first Mass Effect in 2007, and neither are MMOs. The remasters were very positively received and focused on graphics for the most part with only minor gameplay tweaks. As to actual MMOs, it's only natural for graphic improvements to be constantly delivered. Could you imagine if WoW had stayed with vanilla graphics for 17 years? Nobody is saying ZoS isn't doing a good job (at least I don't - please don't put words in my mouth, it's quite rude), but that doesn't mean that there's no room for improvement.0 -
Vevvev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, please!Now I'm remembering Oblivion's old storms and how they actually felt like storms. That game is older than Skyrim and had far better stormy weather than ESO and ran on weaker computers than what we have now. Was more than just the rain drops but also the gusts and thick sprays of water coming down as well.
https://youtu.be/T16S7lHm6oY Edited by Vevvev on January 19, 2022 8:26PMPC NA - Ceyanna Ashton - Breton Vampire MagDK3 -
Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, please!I would also like the ability to change day/night settings.
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Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.There is really no reason to have denser or harder rain and snowfall since it has no real effect in-game.
I beg to differ, can be very important - take New World, one of its only redeeming features is looking pretty. I would've stopped playing it a lot sooner if not for the eye-candy alone, that's for sure.
A simple setting to turn off enhanced weather effects would make this a non-issue as far as performances are concerned (and weather effects are rarely resource-intensive).
Which demonstrates that it is not that important and probably not worth the effort. We are playing ESO because it is a great game and we left NW because it is not.
On the contrary, it's very important. Part of NW's appeal was the eye-candy. ESO has eye-candy too, although it's more related to architecture, lore and nostalgia - that doesn't mean other aspects of it couldn't be improved. It's the same with spell effect and graphics in general. But let's drop NW and look at MMOs that went on for a decade or more. They all had graphics improvement over the course of the years, it's only natural. Even if we were to drop MMOs and focus on video games in general, why is it that remasters done right are so successful? It's 90% because of the graphics; successful remasters (I'm thinking, for instance, Resident Evil and Mass Effect) had very little in the way of gameplay / QOL enhancements and tweaks, which proves that graphics is indeed a very important aspect in any game. Even when it comes to the TES series, graphical mods are able to keep Skyrim on par with current titles, and Oblivion close to it. Morroblivion or however it was called also did wonders to a game whose graphics aged badly. All proofs that graphics matter an enormous deal.
I should also point out that Zenimax has improved the graphics with more recent releases which was part of the reason they ceased support of older PC technology. So Zenimax is constantly working to improve the graphics of the game.0 -
Vindold✭✭✭Yes, please!I should also point out that Zenimax has improved the graphics with more recent releases which was part of the reason they ceased support of older PC technology. So Zenimax is constantly working to improve the graphics of the game.
They improved only polycount and texture quality as far as i know, but lighting\vfx\shaders remained the same and vfx are especially bad in this game(except lightning vfx, love it), sadly...I really wish ZOS will update skills vfx, also sprinting and some combat animations could use a rehaul, as well, as character models, including hair and faces.Edited by Vindold on January 19, 2022 8:54PM0 -
Adremal✭✭✭✭✭Yes, please!There is really no reason to have denser or harder rain and snowfall since it has no real effect in-game.
I beg to differ, can be very important - take New World, one of its only redeeming features is looking pretty. I would've stopped playing it a lot sooner if not for the eye-candy alone, that's for sure.
A simple setting to turn off enhanced weather effects would make this a non-issue as far as performances are concerned (and weather effects are rarely resource-intensive).
Which demonstrates that it is not that important and probably not worth the effort. We are playing ESO because it is a great game and we left NW because it is not.
On the contrary, it's very important. Part of NW's appeal was the eye-candy. ESO has eye-candy too, although it's more related to architecture, lore and nostalgia - that doesn't mean other aspects of it couldn't be improved. It's the same with spell effect and graphics in general. But let's drop NW and look at MMOs that went on for a decade or more. They all had graphics improvement over the course of the years, it's only natural. Even if we were to drop MMOs and focus on video games in general, why is it that remasters done right are so successful? It's 90% because of the graphics; successful remasters (I'm thinking, for instance, Resident Evil and Mass Effect) had very little in the way of gameplay / QOL enhancements and tweaks, which proves that graphics is indeed a very important aspect in any game. Even when it comes to the TES series, graphical mods are able to keep Skyrim on par with current titles, and Oblivion close to it. Morroblivion or however it was called also did wonders to a game whose graphics aged badly. All proofs that graphics matter an enormous deal.
I should also point out that Zenimax has improved the graphics with more recent releases which was part of the reason they ceased support of older PC technology. So Zenimax is constantly working to improve the graphics of the game.
I have never claimed otherwise, I even said that long-running MMO are by definition subject to continuous updates to keep up, and ESO most certainly qualifies as a long-running MMO. So I really don't understand the point you're trying to make, and my previous reply remains unaddressed. I reiterate: the fact that ZoS has been doing a good job doesn't mean there's no room for improvement.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.I play the game mostly for PvE and immersion is important. But as I said, having a heavier snowfall is rather meaningless since it has no real effect. If you want immersion it needs to have more than a slight visual difference. I have played games where it had meaning, effect, and immersion.
Then having a nice skins, mounts, outfits is meaningless since it has no real effect...
Looks like you're not from that category of ppl who cares for game's visual part.
Gameplay\content that's what important, sure, but visual part is important as well, especially now, when other mmos have much better graphics.
ESO vfx were bad even at release...imho, game needs some visual updates like vfx, lighting, weather for eyecandy\immersion.
I don't accept that that is the case, and I've played most of the modern/new stuff including, for example, NW and BDO which are often hailed as having superior graphics which I don't agree with.
In any event, while graphics are important in a MMORPG, that means that they have to be realistic and decent, not necessarily just the best eye candy.Edited by Tandor on January 19, 2022 9:46PM0 -
Blinx✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.I actually want a toggle turn off any kind of so called special effect, be it weather, sun flare etc, some of them irritate my eyes, plus I'm sure the game would run much smoother without them1
