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Increase the ignore list cap... yes this... again...

  • whitecrow
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    I have only ever ignored one person, who happened to be a guildmate.
  • LalMirchi
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    A rather mundane request, the cap is fine as it is at present.

    Surely there are other pressing issues in line to be solved right now?
  • _Zathras_
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    Rezdayn wrote: »

    Responding to this stuff is pointless... its the same tired arguments every time...

    The easiest way to put your suggestion forward is to go in-game and type /feedback. Then you just enter the details of what you would like them to read.

    My suggestion, is that if you want to create a community discussion on the forums, then you should try to listen to the perspectives other people have taken the time to share with you. That is the whole point of making one of these threads: an idea is brought forward, and people talk about it.

    So, /feedback might be the better option for you.

  • majulook
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    You can still end up in a group with some you blocked or that blocked you by using Group Finder, also blocking a player DOES NOT stop the one you blocked from seeing you in their chat.


    Edited by majulook on December 15, 2021 2:32AM
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  • AinSoph
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    I've only ignored at least a max of 5 people for like an hour each and then removed it because what even are the chances you'll remember that person/they'll remember you and interact with them anyway?
  • Vulkunne
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    Hah I dunno... have never had need to ignore anyone.

    Sometimes its fun listening to people say crazy things.
    Edited by Vulkunne on December 15, 2021 2:58AM
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  • JJOtterBear
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    completely agree on either increasing the cap or removing it altogether.
    Edited by JJOtterBear on December 15, 2021 5:26AM
  • Amottica
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    This is just my personal experience in years of playing MMORPGs. When I do not engage in conversation with a toxic player they tend to move on and I never hear from them again. I do not feed them so my ignore list stays empty.

  • Rezdayn
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    You can add notes to your ignore list now (I don’t think that was a thing before or maybe I didn’t notice). Anyway, I purged my ignore list and now add a note with the date and maybe a word or two when I ignore someone. I figure most won’t be around six months to a year from now or I can always re-add them. On the rare occasion it’s personal, I put that in the note and they can stay there. It does not seem a problem to me.

    On the contrary, I’d rather expand my friends list as I would keep people there even long inactive so that if they do come back, I could welcome them and help them get back into the game! :)

    I am aware and have done the same (dating and info etc). However I still think the ignore list should be increased or uncapped. I also think the friends list should be increased or uncapped.
    Y'all need to install the AdBlock Plus addon to auto-filter guild/buyer spam without ignoring the player posting it.

    I personally dont care about guild recruiting and buying/selling in zone.
    Y'all need to install the AdBlock Plus addon to auto-filter guild/buyer spam without ignoring the player posting it.

    I would rather a in game feature. Also some people cant use addons.
    joerginger wrote: »
    The ignore list on the forum needs to be a bit bigger. 12 people is hardly anyone at all.
    The forum ignore list doesn't help all that much. It only minimizes the ignored player's post, but you can still open and read it. It does stop them from leaving private messages but that's never been an issue for me.

    Interesting. I have never ignored anyone on the forum. I do think 12 is a very low number. Forum ignores should be increased as well it seems. As a side note (this is not directed at you but instead at the other people in this thread). I have never ignored anyone on the forums. I dont think I will ever need to use that feature. However I am completely okay with the forum ignore list being increased since it does not effect me in any way. Its really not that hard. I am not going to sit here and reply with flawed arguments like "I dont use the forum ignore list so why do you?" and I defiantly dont use the worst argument of them all "Well since I dont ignore people and you do I will assume you are probably the problem. Most of the people you ignore probably did nothing wrong". Its really not that hard to do... It wont hurt anyone.
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    My suggestion is be more selective on who you put in your ignore list. Also you can ignore people more ways then using an ignore list. When people say dumb things, I just stop reading chat when their name comes up.

    Each to their own. I hand out ignores to anyone who is being a problem. I dont hesitate and dont care about putting up with it or ignoring it myself by avoiding chat etc. Click and done. No need to ignore chat or bother with it again. Add a note and move on. I dont put up with bad behaviour.

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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    In my experience the person doing the ignoring so much that the ignore list is a big problem is generally a problem themselves. I don't think developers want people ignoring their entire base over very petty things and then having to work through any issues that person may cause themselves like being unable to find groups.

    Ignoring doesn't do anything in ESO except for blocking that user from communicating with you, or removing them from your chat feed, though.

    As far as I know you can still wind up in group with someone you've ignored.

    If the groupfinder were that complex, I think you'd have a good point that it can't be checking a ton of variables for everyone. But I don't think groupfinder is that complex.

    Yeah. It not affecting group finder to my knowledge is a point in its favor. But there are definitely people who would block tons of people over the slighest things and then waste everyone's time whenever they are in groups (if they even find them) because they have so much of the group blocked.

    I have had those kinds of bad experiences in other games a long time ago when ignore lists used to be huge and every time it was because the person doing the blocking added people at a drop of the hat. They wouldn't even know why they blocked someone but now it's a whole thing. And it was definitely a group morale killer. Also some people used to handle abusive stuff by blocking only instead of reporting.

    Nowadays most games I play the ignore lists are small, and I can't help but think that those types of things are the reason.

    I think a lot of devs nowadays try to give people some kind of ignore list that allows them to avoid people that they get on with like oil and water, despite the person not doing anything super abusive. But, they don't give them big ones because they want people to be more selective than someone blocking at every minor annoying thing and then ending up causing problems with groups ESPECIALLY when it effects their various matchmakers (that last point is not the case with this game to my knowledge).

    [snip] if someone in your words has blocked too many people for no reason and are now suffering grouping issues from it they can live with it. Their choice. They can unblock people to fix it or continue with what they want to do. You are essentially saying "those people I disagree with shot themselves in the foot and now I need to fix their foot". No... they can live with it or change. This is all pointless anyways... No-one would block enough people to have it actually effect their gameplay when the games player base numbers are so high... Blocking 100 or 1000 people wont change anything in terms of grouping or game function... it only changes one thing... it gives players the ability to ignore bad behaviour and enjoy the game more...
    Stanx wrote: »
    Kindness definitely goes a long way.
    Are you sure that you're not bringing some negativity to the table in instances resulting in blocking?
    Really, there aren't that many people doing outrageous enough things to fill the list completely.
    Evidently, people who fill up their lists are probably doing so due to minor infractions.
    Never had a problem with this myself.

    No-one has to follow your definition of what is ignore worthy. Simple. [snip] If the ignore list is increased you can still ignore zero people for all I care... Some people dont want to put up with x y and z and that's their choice. Do I ignore people for much lighter reasons than other people? Yes. I also think a lot of people put up with bad behaviour when they shouldn't need to. I also think the eso community has a horrible habit of vilifying people who call out bad behaviour more than vilifying the people who DID the bad behaviour. Its all subjective opinion. Thus we should all get to ignore who and how many people we choose to ignore...
    WildLight wrote: »
    How big is ignore list limit anyway? I think the most people I had on it simultaneously is like, 5. And I purge it regularly. Who cares what some dunce said in zone chat months ago.

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    _Zathras_ wrote: »
    Rezdayn wrote: »

    Responding to this stuff is pointless... its the same tired arguments every time...

    The easiest way to put your suggestion forward is to go in-game and type /feedback. Then you just enter the details of what you would like them to read.

    My suggestion, is that if you want to create a community discussion on the forums, then you should try to listen to the perspectives other people have taken the time to share with you. That is the whole point of making one of these threads: an idea is brought forward, and people talk about it.

    So, /feedback might be the better option for you.

    Read the thread replies. Why would I bother caring about that. The majority of people here are saying you should put up with bad behaviour or that anyone who wants to avoid it is probably the problem and not the people who they want to ignore.

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    Your above /feedback idea is great. It has been done. This thread was purely designed to join the other threads asking for the same thing. ESO has a habit of ignoring these ideas until it has been floated for a very long time. Thus this thread was to contribute to that. I have no intention of listening to the community which has already proven it cares more about the players who do meh behaviour than the players who just want to avoid it.

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    completely agree on either increasing the cap or removing it altogether.

    Sadly we are the minority on this topic. Most people would rather say we are the problem because we dont want to put up with bad behaviour.

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    [edited for baiting]
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on December 15, 2021 4:46PM
  • wheresbes
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    What's the point of the ignore list anyway? ffs I've got only one player in there and I keep getting grouped with them.
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    wheresbes wrote: »
    What's the point of the ignore list anyway? ffs I've got only one player in there and I keep getting grouped with them.

    You can't see their chat
  • wheresbes
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    You can't see their chat

    Yeah but that's not always the issue. The person I blocked is for toxic behaviour, not foul speech.

    I don't mostly care about what I read in chats/whispers, though, if something is REALLY bad then I report.

  • magnusthorek
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    More than supporting the uncapping for ban list, this information should be used for something more than just hiding their lines from chat. For example, this information should/could be used to prevent us from getting them as a PUG match. Or as on the extreme side, even hide this person from the zone instance we are in.
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  • Succuby
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    The number of toxics are really big in eso. But ignoring them is not a good solution.

    The best is mirroring there toxicity to them to be ignored by them :)

    Some times it can be even fun.
  • Rezdayn
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    More than supporting the uncapping for ban list, this information should be used for something more than just hiding their lines from chat. For example, this information should/could be used to prevent us from getting them as a PUG match. Or as on the extreme side, even hide this person from the zone instance we are in.

    I agree. I think we shouldn't be queued into the same groups as well. I think we should be able to manually group though. I often end up in trial groups with people I have ignored. I dont control who the leaders bring and I shouldn't be able to. Its not my group. If it was my group I could pick. However if someone else is lead its more than fair they bring who they want without my ignore list stopping them.
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  • AyeshaBelladonna
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    When ZOS's go-to instructions for reporting someone is to "Place them on ignore" and the game mechanic AUTO-IGNORES anyone you /report, then the list needs more room or other options. Like a SEPERATE list for folks you reported that the game auto-ignored for you vs the people you placed on that list by choice.
    Sorry but if you did/said something bad enough for me to report you, I don't ever want to see your name come up in my cha screen. IDC if it's 3 days or 3 years. I don't want to interact with or around you anymore. that's the beauty of Online vs IRL. I shouldn't have to 'deal' with it in my recreation time.

    This is my 'me' time to play how i want to play. and if that means being able to ignore 250 people, so be it. If zos wants to give us another option for handling folks we've had to report I'm all for it. but it's their own advice to just put them on ignore so... :shrug: They should be facilitating that being possible. And for the record? If you PvP, chances are you'll run into not only a LOT of folks you're gonna want to ignore, nut folks that generally play long term too so the chances of you running into them 3mo or 3yrs later IS pretty high.
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    wheresbes wrote: »
    What's the point of the ignore list anyway? ffs I've got only one player in there and I keep getting grouped with them.

    You can't see their chat

    This and I expect whispers are blocked.

    But they can see what you post in chats they have access to. So they know if you are in the same zone and ofc see you chat in the guild.
  • Stopnaggin
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    I don't think it would hurt raising the cap. Personally I just turn off chat when it gets like that. Also I'm not entirely sure but on xBox if they are that annoying I just block from there. Those zone chat spammers are what's mostly in my list though.
  • daim
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    Sooooo... ignore list is for people whom harrash you day after day ... or am I missing something ?
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  • spartaxoxo
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    daim wrote: »
    Sooooo... ignore list is for people whom harrash you day after day ... or am I missing something ?

    It's for people to you don't get along with and don't want to see their messages.

    If someone is violating the COC that's what the report button is for, that person don't need to be in-game at all. You can (and should) still block them too, ofc, but reporting is the important thing to do.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on December 15, 2021 9:39PM
  • Macalanias
    i want an extended ignore list because i ignore every person that isnt writing german or english.

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  • Dr_Con
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    I would like an improved matchmaking system so my ignore list doesn't get extensive
  • radiostar
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    If you can get THEM to /ignore YOU, you save a slot :wink:
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  • disintegr8
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    Been playing ES0 for 7 years and never had a full 'ignore' list, mostly because I can usually ignore people without actually using it. In fact, I don't think I've ever used it on more than 2 or 3 people in all that time.

    An overly used ignore list might indicate other issues, like being oversensitive or constantly doing/saying things that get other people fired up. Not really trying to victim blame here but if that many players annoy, hate or harass you, maybe you need to look a bit closer to home, or even find another game.
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  • fastolfv_ESO
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    trust me the list is big enough, generally after a few months half your ignore list will get bored and quit and you can purge and if necessary re-ignore. i led a pvp guild for years and ignored exlusively for death threats from angry streamers and weirdos, the list filled and i finally purged the entire thing for the exception of one person and what i found was the people sending hate tells/threats dont last long and move to the next game to spaz out
  • gameswithaspoon
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    Just increase it to 500 and everyone should be good to go with that.
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    If a player is annoyed by zone chat, toggle it off. If a player is annoyed by guild chat, toggle that off, too.

    That is much easier than ignoring hundreds of players that they may never run into again and is easy to reverse.
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    Is this a common problem?

    I don't think so. Feel like the issue is too much exaggerated.

    Increase ignore list? ...Well yea, certainly I met toxic people. But it is very rare case to put them in ignore list.
    People who rejected by someone and categorized ignore list is extremely bad people. There're not much those
    guys in the game for me.


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