Increase the ignore list cap... yes this... again...

Rezdayn
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Uncap the ignore list OR make the ignore list cap the total number of active players (sarcasm)

Really though... Some people dont like to put up with other people and their very meh like behaviour. Raise the cap significantly... Right now we have to remove people from our ignore list to add new people to it. That is wild. Chances are the people you ignored are still just as meh as they use to be... and the "maybe they have stopped playing or wont run into you again" argument has so many flaws... I dont care and would rather not deal with it in the first place... the ignore list should ignore people and it literally cant when it is full.

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[edited for baiting and bashing]
Edited by ZOS_Lunar on December 15, 2021 4:48PM
  • _Zathras_
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    I look at it this way:

    Everyone has a bad day. Other people may also get a little too into zone chat one night when they are indulging. Some may even genuinely be bad apples, ranging over into the spectrum of truly toxic.

    I don't mind ignoring someone if they are making a fur piece of themselves.

    But, I also realize that 99% of the people that behave that way aren't always going to be that way. Heat-of-the-moment sort of thing.

    So, I purge my ignore list (which has never hit cap) once in a while. After doing that, my chat isn't suddenly flooded with a seething mass of trolls. It is, surprisingly, pretty much as it always is: fairly benign and helpful, with a rare outlier that can be put in the corner for a period of time.
  • WabanakiWarrior
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    Is this a common problem?
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  • aurorable
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    I agree ignore list shouldn't be capped (same with friends list). I don't get why people get offend over the idea of an ignore list increase/uncapped that wouldn't hurt them.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    In my experience the person doing the ignoring so much that the ignore list is a big problem is generally a problem themselves. I don't think developers want people ignoring their entire base over very petty things and then having to work through any issues that person may cause themselves like being unable to find groups.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on December 14, 2021 2:49PM
  • LalMirchi
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    I'm sorry but no matter what the subject annoying videos in the opening post really decrease my wishes to read or comment.
  • spartaxoxo
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    My personal experience isn't about anyone in this game necessarily, it's just about things I have personally witnessed while playing MMOs for many years.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on December 15, 2021 8:33PM
  • RedTalon
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    Can do what I do,t not in a guild though I keep all channels turned off unless doing something with people I know to be reasonable and my mail box is always full it ensures no interactions with anyone you don't want and keep yourself marked has offline.

    Works out lovely for me and my ignore list is always empty now a-days


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  • SilverBride
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    If someone is being very offensive I report them, which automatically ignores them, but it rarely gets to that point. The first thing I do is announce in zone chat that I'm going to start reporting. Most of the time that actually stops the offensive chat. Then I remove them from the ignore list.

    If just chat in general, guild recruitment, buying and selling, are what is being ignored the player would be better off just turning off zone because these are not offensive players who need to be ignored.
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  • Rezdayn
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    If someone is being very offensive I report them, which automatically ignores them, but it rarely gets to that point. The first thing I do is announce in zone chat that I'm going to start reporting. Most of the time that actually stops the offensive chat. Then I remove them from the ignore list.

    If just chat in general, guild recruitment, buying and selling, are what is being ignored the player would be better off just turning off zone because these are not offensive players who need to be ignored.

    I personally dont care if people guild recruit or use zone to buy and sell. Some people care. Thats their choice. Nothing to do with me.
  • NettleCarrier
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    In my experience the person doing the ignoring so much that the ignore list is a big problem is generally a problem themselves. I don't think developers want people ignoring their entire base over very petty things and then having to work through any issues that person may cause themselves like being unable to find groups.

    I really don't think I should be labeled as "a problem myself" as you put it just because my ignore list is full. It's full of people that were spouting political nonsense, WTB orders for hilariously underpriced gold materials, or incessant guild recruitment spammers. I don't think these people are people that I need to work through issues with, as I have indeed not had any direct contact with any of them. Most of these could be solved by turning off zone chat for sure, but there are some good reasons to leave that on.
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  • SilverBride
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    Rezdayn wrote: »
    If someone is being very offensive I report them, which automatically ignores them, but it rarely gets to that point. The first thing I do is announce in zone chat that I'm going to start reporting. Most of the time that actually stops the offensive chat. Then I remove them from the ignore list.

    If just chat in general, guild recruitment, buying and selling, are what is being ignored the player would be better off just turning off zone because these are not offensive players who need to be ignored.

    I personally dont care if people guild recruit or use zone to buy and sell. Some people care. Thats their choice. Nothing to do with me.

    That is why I said they would be better off turning off zone chat, at least for awhile. Ignoring players who aren't truly being offensive will fill the ignore list quickly and not leave room for real offenders.
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  • hafgood
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    I've no particular feeling on this, if someone needs to ignore players than the list allows then maybe they should be allowed to.

    However, I've played this game 4 years now and the number on my ignore list is 0. Not because I'm particularly tolerant, but more because I pay no attention to what's going on in zone and area chat, and being console based i can't turn them off. (Text based chat). Area chat (voice chat) is never entered due to people playing "banging" "tunes" and burping and belching, let alone anything else.

  • Arunei
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    As an RPer, my ignore list is pretty much always full. I really don't understand why anyone would have a problem with making the list bigger. There's literally no way everyone having an ignore list of like 200 people would cause any problems with "people ignoring everyone in the game"; I mean heck, look at people in this very thread claiming theirs isn't full or even saying theirs has 0 people on it. "It would be a problem if people could ignore more people" is a non-argument, it implies everyone will ignore everyone for the sake of ignoring them, which obviously isn't the case from posts here.

    I would also like to point out that people are allowed to ignore whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Just because someone doesn't see guild recruitment as a problem doesn't mean someone who does has to be called "the problem" for curating their game experience.
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  • RedTalon
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    Arunei wrote: »
    As an RPer, my ignore list is pretty much always full. I really don't understand why anyone would have a problem with making the list bigger. There's literally no way everyone having an ignore list of like 200 people would cause any problems with "people ignoring everyone in the game"; I mean heck, look at people in this very thread claiming theirs isn't full or even saying theirs has 0 people on it. "It would be a problem if people could ignore more people" is a non-argument, it implies everyone will ignore everyone for the sake of ignoring them, which obviously isn't the case from posts here.

    I would also like to point out that people are allowed to ignore whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Just because someone doesn't see guild recruitment as a problem doesn't mean someone who does has to be called "the problem" for curating their game experience.

    I mean and its not like you can't already ignore everyone when you want to, you can mute channels for however long you want to, leave yourself marked offline and always keep a full mail box. it really is a none issue to expand the cap of the ignore list honestly u nles sit would cause coding issues we dont know about.
  • Rezdayn
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    Arunei wrote: »
    As an RPer, my ignore list is pretty much always full. I really don't understand why anyone would have a problem with making the list bigger. There's literally no way everyone having an ignore list of like 200 people would cause any problems with "people ignoring everyone in the game"; I mean heck, look at people in this very thread claiming theirs isn't full or even saying theirs has 0 people on it. "It would be a problem if people could ignore more people" is a non-argument, it implies everyone will ignore everyone for the sake of ignoring them, which obviously isn't the case from posts here.

    I would also like to point out that people are allowed to ignore whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Just because someone doesn't see guild recruitment as a problem doesn't mean someone who does has to be called "the problem" for curating their game experience.

    Yep.
    RedTalon wrote: »
    Arunei wrote: »
    As an RPer, my ignore list is pretty much always full. I really don't understand why anyone would have a problem with making the list bigger. There's literally no way everyone having an ignore list of like 200 people would cause any problems with "people ignoring everyone in the game"; I mean heck, look at people in this very thread claiming theirs isn't full or even saying theirs has 0 people on it. "It would be a problem if people could ignore more people" is a non-argument, it implies everyone will ignore everyone for the sake of ignoring them, which obviously isn't the case from posts here.

    I would also like to point out that people are allowed to ignore whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Just because someone doesn't see guild recruitment as a problem doesn't mean someone who does has to be called "the problem" for curating their game experience.

    I mean and its not like you can't already ignore everyone when you want to, you can mute channels for however long you want to, leave yourself marked offline and always keep a full mail box. it really is a none issue to expand the cap of the ignore list honestly u nles sit would cause coding issues we dont know about.

    Or just increase the ignore cap. The other stuff seems unnecessary when the fix is obvious and easier.
  • aurelius_fx
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    didn't even knew you could ignore people, even less that much people, what a strange hobby
    have you tried muting specific chats? looking away from the chat box? shrug.. i fail to see any problems with increasing the cap, though. ESO should be how you wanna play, right?
  • Araneae6537
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    You can add notes to your ignore list now (I don’t think that was a thing before or maybe I didn’t notice). Anyway, I purged my ignore list and now add a note with the date and maybe a word or two when I ignore someone. I figure most won’t be around six months to a year from now or I can always re-add them. On the rare occasion it’s personal, I put that in the note and they can stay there. It does not seem a problem to me.

    On the contrary, I’d rather expand my friends list as I would keep people there even long inactive so that if they do come back, I could welcome them and help them get back into the game! :)
  • SpiritKitten
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    Y'all need to install the AdBlock Plus addon to auto-filter guild/buyer spam without ignoring the player posting it.
    Edited by SpiritKitten on December 14, 2021 5:36PM
  • SpiritKitten
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    I ignore ppl in zone chat who are irredeemably offensive. Hilarious story: I joined a social guild who used voice chat in discord all day long, so I made a pretty good but casual friend there but then...I couldn't trade with him ingame and turns out, he was on my ignore list.
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    Y'all need to install the AdBlock Plus addon to auto-filter guild/buyer spam without ignoring the player posting it.

    While this IS a solution, not everyone has the ability to use addons and so personally my arguments in this thread are in defense of those without such choices.
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  • joerginger
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    The ignore list on the forum needs to be a bit bigger. 12 people is hardly anyone at all.
  • SilverBride
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    The forum ignore list doesn't help all that much. It only minimizes the ignored player's post, but you can still open and read it. It does stop them from leaving private messages but that's never been an issue for me.
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  • VaranisArano
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    In my experience the person doing the ignoring so much that the ignore list is a big problem is generally a problem themselves. I don't think developers want people ignoring their entire base over very petty things and then having to work through any issues that person may cause themselves like being unable to find groups.

    Ignoring doesn't do anything in ESO except for blocking that user from communicating with you, or removing them from your chat feed, though.

    As far as I know you can still wind up in group with someone you've ignored.

    If the groupfinder were that complex, I think you'd have a good point that it can't be checking a ton of variables for everyone. But I don't think groupfinder is that complex.
  • VaranisArano
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    The forum ignore list doesn't help all that much. It only minimizes the ignored player's post, but you can still open and read it. It does stop them from leaving private messages but that's never been an issue for me.

    It also doesn't remove their original threads from the recent discussions list, which is how I wanted to use it when particular posters used to spam polls or with discussions that invariably went south.

    Instead I just kind of trained myself to ignore all threads created by certain avatars for a while, which isn't exactly ideal for the innocent posters who happened share that icon.
  • Nanfoodle
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    My suggestion is be more selective on who you put in your ignore list. Also you can ignore people more ways then using an ignore list. When people say dumb things, I just stop reading chat when their name comes up.
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    Rezdayn wrote: »
    If someone is being very offensive I report them, which automatically ignores them, but it rarely gets to that point. The first thing I do is announce in zone chat that I'm going to start reporting. Most of the time that actually stops the offensive chat. Then I remove them from the ignore list.

    If just chat in general, guild recruitment, buying and selling, are what is being ignored the player would be better off just turning off zone because these are not offensive players who need to be ignored.

    I personally dont care if people guild recruit or use zone to buy and sell. Some people care. Thats their choice. Nothing to do with me.

    That is why I said they would be better off turning off zone chat, at least for awhile. Ignoring players who aren't truly being offensive will fill the ignore list quickly and not leave room for real offenders.

    Exactly that. I do think that on any full Ignore list there will be a degree of over-policing of the chat channel and some self-contribution to the toxicity. If, however, a player is especially sensitive to what goes on in the chat channel then just turn the darned thing off, I did so on the day I installed the game (while leaving Zone English on for genuine requests for help etc) and haven't missed it one iota. Opening up the list will simply fuel further problems including, very likely, performance issues including extended zoning times etc.
  • Vevvev
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    Instead I just kind of trained myself to ignore all threads created by certain avatars for a while, which isn't exactly ideal for the innocent posters who happened share that icon.

    Or when you run into someone with the same icon as you. "Wait, I didn't say tha... oh wait... different person with the same avatar."
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  • spartaxoxo
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    spartaxoxo wrote: »
    In my experience the person doing the ignoring so much that the ignore list is a big problem is generally a problem themselves. I don't think developers want people ignoring their entire base over very petty things and then having to work through any issues that person may cause themselves like being unable to find groups.

    Ignoring doesn't do anything in ESO except for blocking that user from communicating with you, or removing them from your chat feed, though.

    As far as I know you can still wind up in group with someone you've ignored.

    If the groupfinder were that complex, I think you'd have a good point that it can't be checking a ton of variables for everyone. But I don't think groupfinder is that complex.

    Yeah. It not affecting group finder to my knowledge is a point in its favor. But there are definitely people who would block tons of people over the slighest things and then waste everyone's time whenever they are in groups (if they even find them) because they have so much of the group blocked.

    I have had those kinds of bad experiences in other games a long time ago when ignore lists used to be huge and every time it was because the person doing the blocking added people at a drop of the hat. They wouldn't even know why they blocked someone but now it's a whole thing. And it was definitely a group morale killer. Also some people used to handle abusive stuff by blocking only instead of reporting.

    Nowadays most games I play the ignore lists are small, and I can't help but think that those types of things are the reason.

    I think a lot of devs nowadays try to give people some kind of ignore list that allows them to avoid people that they get on with like oil and water, despite the person not doing anything super abusive. But, they don't give them big ones because they want people to be more selective than someone blocking at every minor annoying thing and then ending up causing problems with groups ESPECIALLY when it effects their various matchmakers (that last point is not the case with this game to my knowledge).
    Edited by spartaxoxo on December 14, 2021 7:47PM
  • Stanx
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    Kindness definitely goes a long way.
    Are you sure that you're not bringing some negativity to the table in instances resulting in blocking?
    Really, there aren't that many people doing outrageous enough things to fill the list completely.
    Evidently, people who fill up their lists are probably doing so due to minor infractions.
    Never had a problem with this myself.
  • WildLight
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    How big is ignore list limit anyway? I think the most people I had on it simultaneously is like, 5. And I purge it regularly. Who cares what some dunce said in zone chat months ago.
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