I was testing things for fun before, I was able to achieve 5k dps on factotum dummy light attacking naked with only restoration staff in hands and no skills.
Once we had guild world boss event, and I was completely naked with no weapons or skills slotted, I did 4-5k dps somehow just punching. Group buffs/debuffs were present tho.


Now, I logged normal crag pug sometime ago and reviewed it. There were people running 5piece+4piece+3piece of overland/crafted 5-peice sets, and that was one of the better equipped folks. A person with no rings at all, another person wearing trash untraited non-set green body armor pieces. A lot of people with just random 2-3 peices of "meta" sets. A ton of people running load of healing skills and/or even restos backbar.


This other time in dungeon I payed a lot of attention to what people actually do. This one dd was casting class resolve every couple of second, shields in between, rolling all over the place, sometimes light attack was in. This was normal base game dungeon and person was fairly high CP.

Managed it here

Stolen clothing and the broom.

Do it to unbuffed 3 or 6 Million dummy without gears that can be obtained from trials or dlc dungeons.

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PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

Had one tell me they do more damage the farther away they are.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Long_Shots
The skill doesn't give a distance for the max, and distances are hard to tell, so not surprising someone would say that.

Yeah the "more damage at range" is ZoS' fault. They need to update that skill to fit the game as it is.

All it accomplishes now is giving you a small boost when you're in already unfavorable situations.

Honestly the game does *not* teach how things work, and it is *not* clear what skills or abilities do. You have to put time into learning it yourself.

Vonnegut2506 wrote: »

Option 1: dps with a 1H + Shield so not only do you not do any dps, but you also keep taunting off the tank on the off chance there is one. I had one of these guys last week; I couldn't figure out why the tank and dps both had 40k health with a shield equipped. The two dps combined did around 12k dps on boss fights.

Seems like we did a run last week together

I even asked whether that other guy wants to tank then I can switch gear and CPs, but as s/he didn't resond I kept tanking as long as s/he taunted that boss, then I tried to look what s/he does and stopped further attempts to tank

Ermiq wrote: »

The reason is the overland content is extremely easy.
The game doesn't put players in a situation where they would need to think about their stats, equipment and abilities. Any zone and any quest is doable with any build and even with random equip and random skills. So, players complete some zone, and it seems like they're doing fine. The game doesn't ever tell you that you have to git gud.

Nor should it.

Some players, me included, play the game to relax and so avoid anything approaching a challenge due to physical limitations.

Am I not allowed to have fun in the overland as a casual and instead be given a lesson on having to git gud?

It seems to me some of us just play the game to enjoy it. Also I can't tell you my dps as I have never bothered to check TBH.

edit: clarity

Coatmagic wrote: »

Ahem, hold this ones skooma.

"It's not my skooma, I swear! I was only holding for someone with a magic coat."

Not so long ago I entered a Spindleclutch I.
I was a 45 lvl heal and others where 1k+ CP.
My DPS was around 4-5k and I was doing ~ 30% of my group's DPS.
I saw person just doind heavy attack + wall of elements some times🤦🏻‍♀️
We literally start struggling at first group of spiders. Three 1k+ CP players spend minutes to kill several spiders in lvl 10 dungeon...

Yes, people play for fun... but ending up with such groupmates has nothing to do with fun at all, it is a real pain and a feeling of uselessly spend time 😔

If its important for people to know their DPS, the game needs to introduce training for training dummies. I'm not going to spend a half hour focusing to kill a 3 million dummy. Give me dummies that I can use to work my way up that match what I can currently do.

Precursor is fairly good match for delves, so let's get a 300k one for public dungeon bosses and 500k for normal dungeon mini bosses, 1.8mm for normal dungeon bosses and world bosses, 2.5mm for DLC mini bosses. I know that dummies include buffs, but I need stuff that doesn't take forever to get an answer as a starting point.

On PC you can use Combat Metrics addon that will show your DPS instantly and everywhere, no need to dummies. It will also show total team DPS, so you will know who you are playing with.

Again, the game's combat tutorial is *very clear* about only one thing -- do heavy attacks and sometimes block. It's almost irresponsibly bad at introducing how combat works.