@phaneub17_ESO, IIRC it was stated in the announcement that set pieces we've already collected would be excluded from the loot table-- unless we've already collected all of the set pieces that boss can drop-- so I don't think they're supposed to merely have a lesser chance of dropping.

@Bat, it's not for you, I, nor any other players to decide whether it's working as intended; it's for the devs themselves to say, in accordance to how they did intend for it to work-- which we, the players, do not fully know the details of. I'm not saying that it is working as intended, just that we should let the devs determine whether it is or is not.

@Coatmagic and @Bat, were you soloing dungeons, or were you in a group? Judging from what I've read in another thread, it sounds like being in a group might be a factor in how it's designed to work-- that perhaps the drops are based on the group's combined loot table, rather than each group member's drops being specific to a separate loot table for that individual. If that is indeed how it's been designed-- and I don't know whether it is or isn't-- then presumably the devs expect that the members of a group will be trading the dropped items with each other. As we've seen in threads where players complain about getting demands from other group members for specific pieces they got, some players have said that they'd rather deconstruct the asked-for pieces of gear just to spite the players who were requesting those pieces from them. If it turns out that drops are indeed tailored for a group's combined loot table, with each individual member's drops being randomly chosen from an overall pool of drops, that whole design-- if that is the design-- might need to be rethought.

Marketing is not the same as implementation. From the patch notes:

Bosses and reward chests from arenas and incursions will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections!
Most bosses in the game, along with reward chests from arenas and incursions, will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections. These sources will only drop the set items that they can normally drop; the ways to acquire a particular item are unchanged, but it should be much easier to find items that you have not yet unlocked.
Set items looted from treasure chests, containers, or from non-boss monsters are generally not curated in this manner.

That’s vague enough to be open to multiple interpretations. But lack of specific phrasing (“you are guaranteed to”, “you will always” get an uncollected item) leads me to believe it is simply weighted RNG. A player is more likely to get a set piece they have not collected, most of the time. “Preferentially”, to me, means a preferred chance of an uncollected item dropping. Not a guaranteed chance of it.

I could be wrong. At least that’s how it has worked for me so far. I got multiples of items not already collected along with items already collected. The overall feeling was that ESO game more uncollected items than collected items from the new zone, from base game zones, and from three dungeons (done in groups) yesterday.

Sambucca1973 wrote: »

Marketing is not the same as implementation. From the patch notes:

Bosses and reward chests from arenas and incursions will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections!
Most bosses in the game, along with reward chests from arenas and incursions, will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections. These sources will only drop the set items that they can normally drop; the ways to acquire a particular item are unchanged, but it should be much easier to find items that you have not yet unlocked.
Set items looted from treasure chests, containers, or from non-boss monsters are generally not curated in this manner.

That’s vague enough to be open to multiple interpretations. But lack of specific phrasing (“you are guaranteed to”, “you will always” get an uncollected item) leads me to believe it is simply weighted RNG. A player is more likely to get a set piece they have not collected, most of the time. “Preferentially”, to me, means a preferred chance of an uncollected item dropping. Not a guaranteed chance of it.

I could be wrong. At least that’s how it has worked for me so far. I got multiples of items not already collected along with items already collected. The overall feeling was that ESO game more uncollected items than collected items from the new zone, from base game zones, and from three dungeons (done in groups) yesterday.

This news post https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/61131 states that you get uncollected items every time.

trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Sambucca1973 wrote: »

Marketing is not the same as implementation. From the patch notes:

Bosses and reward chests from arenas and incursions will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections!
Most bosses in the game, along with reward chests from arenas and incursions, will now preferentially drop set items that have not yet been unlocked in your Item Set Collections. These sources will only drop the set items that they can normally drop; the ways to acquire a particular item are unchanged, but it should be much easier to find items that you have not yet unlocked.
Set items looted from treasure chests, containers, or from non-boss monsters are generally not curated in this manner.

That’s vague enough to be open to multiple interpretations. But lack of specific phrasing (“you are guaranteed to”, “you will always” get an uncollected item) leads me to believe it is simply weighted RNG. A player is more likely to get a set piece they have not collected, most of the time. “Preferentially”, to me, means a preferred chance of an uncollected item dropping. Not a guaranteed chance of it.

I could be wrong. At least that’s how it has worked for me so far. I got multiples of items not already collected along with items already collected. The overall feeling was that ESO game more uncollected items than collected items from the new zone, from base game zones, and from three dungeons (done in groups) yesterday.

This news post https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/61131 states that you get uncollected items every time.

That same post is clearly wrong because right before the VMA line is this:

“ With Update 32, in most cases, when an item set drops from a monster, the system will try to give you something that you don’t already own. This change greatly reduces the randomness of your rewards, with each subsequent drop further reducing the potential variation until you’ve collected every piece within a set.”

That is in NO WAY a 100% instant drop rate. In fact if that were the case you could farm BSW/Medusa infernos by just not adding it to your set collections.

The example they gave of the VMA Weapons may only be accurate because each weapon is an individual set AND extremely limited in terms of what items drop. That’s not the same as a delve, zone, or dungeon set which has 36 items or so per set.

Thats the question now. We can agree on that something is wrong, the only question is what.

Theres a workaround for the named items. Just lock them in your inventory and you wont get them again. I got belisario's bolt 3 times in arx yesterday and fang of the lamia queen twice. Do not vendor those named ***. Keep them on you. At least until you get the thing you're looking for.

I would like to see ZOS clarify how the RNG works exactly... I feel like there is a lot of speculation in this post.