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Skeletal Marionette Parts

Ippokrates
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I got a lot of gold and purple plunder bags. A LOT. Got plenty of writs and made them, motifs, recipes, furnitures, collected even a great skeletal doggo BUT did not get a single Skeletal Marionette Part.

Is this ok, or am i doing something wrong?
Edited by Ippokrates on October 24, 2021 5:03PM
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    Are skeletal marionette pieces even in the loot table this year? They kind of retire old things and introduce new things. Skeletal marionette may now only come from the Impresario grab bags with random old rewards.
  • Ippokrates
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    Well, achievement is still in the journal, so i thought they should be. If not, it would...
  • PvXGamer
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    considering it is one of the achievements and to have it stuffed behind an event ticket item and completely random with many other items from the grab-bag....kinda did the player-base dirty with that one.
    I would rather be playing the game.
  • Ippokrates
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    Right. And you could buy them on the market, for ca. 160k each -_-
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    PvXGamer wrote: »
    considering it is one of the achievements and to have it stuffed behind an event ticket item and completely random with many other items from the grab-bag....kinda did the player-base dirty with that one.

    As they added more and more stuff to events, so that players who had done them before did not lose interest, there were lots of complaints about how congested the loot tables had gotten. Old players complained about getting lots of worthless junk that they had already collected 3x over. New players complained about feeling overwhelmed about all the stuff they were seeing and needed to be collected. So ZOS trimmed the loot tables to make them less messy. And the grab bags from Impresario are not completely RNG. They always give you something you don't already have.

    It is similar to the way they remove things from the Crown Store on a regular basis. These are purely virtual goods. It is not like they have a physical warehouse that cannot fit these items. But for marketing reasons, players tend to respond best to seeing some things to collect, but not too many things.
  • Ippokrates
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    Sure, i also see this correlation and must say, it has some positives BUT in such case they should remove achievement or remake it into different options, cause a completionist in me at this moment is really angry -_-
  • Paulytnz
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Sure, i also see this correlation and must say, it has some positives BUT in such case they should remove achievement or remake it into different options, cause a completionist in me at this moment is really angry -_-

    Nah they wont/can't do that. Then even MORE people would complain they can't get the achievement at all. After all, this way they give more people more incentive to buy the Crown Store Tickets. ;)
  • Zorrin
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    I was going to try to get the achievement on a second character this year, but since I already have
    the memento and everything else in the grab bag, it shows up red on the Impresario so I can't even buy them there :/ Kinda seems like a bit of an oversight to me
  • redspecter23
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    Zorrin wrote: »
    I was going to try to get the achievement on a second character this year, but since I already have
    the memento and everything else in the grab bag, it shows up red on the Impresario so I can't even buy them there :/ Kinda seems like a bit of an oversight to me

    This sounds like a massive oversight. You're locked out of the achievement permanently after you have it on once character. It may not be a bug but it's worthy of a feedback report. If you're trying to get all the achievements on one character, you're basically out of luck forever now. Yes, you can still buy leftovers from previous years, but that solution won't be around forever.
  • FeedbackOnly
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, achievement is still in the journal, so i thought they should be. If not, it would...

    It's actually impossible achievement now because only in grab bags. You won't be able to get if one character collected them all.
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    Zorrin wrote: »
    I was going to try to get the achievement on a second character this year, but since I already have
    the memento and everything else in the grab bag, it shows up red on the Impresario so I can't even buy them there :/ Kinda seems like a bit of an oversight to me

    They should just put them with gold maps
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    PvXGamer wrote: »
    considering it is one of the achievements and to have it stuffed behind an event ticket item and completely random with many other items from the grab-bag....kinda did the player-base dirty with that one.

    As they added more and more stuff to events, so that players who had done them before did not lose interest, there were lots of complaints about how congested the loot tables had gotten. Old players complained about getting lots of worthless junk that they had already collected 3x over. New players complained about feeling overwhelmed about all the stuff they were seeing and needed to be collected. So ZOS trimmed the loot tables to make them less messy. And the grab bags from Impresario are not completely RNG. They always give you something you don't already have.

    It is similar to the way they remove things from the Crown Store on a regular basis. These are purely virtual goods. It is not like they have a physical warehouse that cannot fit these items. But for marketing reasons, players tend to respond best to seeing some things to collect, but not too many things.

    Just put them with gold map chests to keep loot table refined. They did same with hollowjack just with witch festival writs
  • Ippokrates
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Right. And you could buy them on the market, for ca. 160k each -_-

    Sorry, today is more like 500k each XD
  • Zorrin
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    This sounds like a massive oversight. You're locked out of the achievement permanently after you have it on once character. It may not be a bug but it's worthy of a feedback report. If you're trying to get all the achievements on one character, you're basically out of luck forever now. Yes, you can still buy leftovers from previous years, but that solution won't be around forever.

    You're right, and I have sent an in-game report about this issue :) I doubt anything will come of it before the event ends, but hopefully next year we'll have some solution.
  • Reverb
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    Which fragments make the marionette? I don’t even remember.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • This_0ne
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom pls pay attention to this issue
  • emilyhyoyeon
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    Zorrin wrote: »
    I was going to try to get the achievement on a second character this year, but since I already have
    the memento and everything else in the grab bag, it shows up red on the Impresario so I can't even buy them there :/ Kinda seems like a bit of an oversight to me

    Yeah this is what I was going to do. Unfortunately for me the character I did get the marionette on was not even my main character. I had just wanted to get the marionette really quick and figured I could do it again on the ''correct'' character later.
    IGN @ emilypumpkin
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    Seliwequen Narilata altmer necromancer & debaucher
  • Araneae6537
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, achievement is still in the journal, so i thought they should be. If not, it would...

    It's actually impossible achievement now because only in grab bags. You won't be able to get if one character collected them all.

    But then you have the momento and the achievement isn’t a perquisite for anything that I’m aware of and no title. If I were a player getting a grab bag for things I’d missed out on, I’d be upset if I got something I’d already collected as I think most people would be. Maybe the pieces could be sold individually from the Impressario for those that want? Personally, I’m glad that they’re not in the gold skulls and those are already nearly entirely things I have already, maybe also some lucky drops I’ve not gotten yet, but I’m more happy with the purple skulls as those are things I can use, even if it’s just humble reagents or, even better, fun furnishings and plans. Not that I’m complaining about all the motif and style pages — I distribute them among my guilds, as do others, so the new players should have no trouble collecting everything they want this year. :)
  • Eshkerigal
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    Or give us who have memento in their collection (but completed on different character) account wide achievement :)
  • MEBengalsFan2001
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    PvXGamer wrote: »
    considering it is one of the achievements and to have it stuffed behind an event ticket item and completely random with many other items from the grab-bag....kinda did the player-base dirty with that one.

    As they added more and more stuff to events, so that players who had done them before did not lose interest, there were lots of complaints about how congested the loot tables had gotten. Old players complained about getting lots of worthless junk that they had already collected 3x over. New players complained about feeling overwhelmed about all the stuff they were seeing and needed to be collected. So ZOS trimmed the loot tables to make them less messy. And the grab bags from Impresario are not completely RNG. They always give you something you don't already have.

    It is similar to the way they remove things from the Crown Store on a regular basis. These are purely virtual goods. It is not like they have a physical warehouse that cannot fit these items. But for marketing reasons, players tend to respond best to seeing some things to collect, but not too many things.

    Just put them with gold map chests to keep loot table refined. They did same with hollowjack just with witch festival writs

    They should of put them in the writ table. This way you get one of two things.
  • N3CR01
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    Was wondering this myself as its the only Witch Fest achievo I don't have.
  • Ippokrates
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    I didn't thought that it is possible, and i am not sure it is complying with those obscure terms of conditions (i am assuming it is, cause i am keeping anonymity, sort of ^^), but there is ATM a trading war at the PC EU TTC - one dude is trying to monopolize the market of skeletal parts XD buying whatever entering the market, and then constantly reselling his stuff for millions to push other offers to side 2 of TTC, where casuals are not looking (of course TTC is only supporting tool to show how a real eso market fluctuate).

    What is possibly the best example that the current situation wasn't to well resolve by zos. Wonder what they do with that. If anything -_-
    Edited by Ippokrates on October 27, 2021 11:56PM
  • Grandchamp1989
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    I didn't thought that it is possible, and i am not sure it is complying with those obscure terms of conditions zos have to argument whatever they want like typhical Internet mogul (i am assuming it is not, cause i am keeping anonymity, sort of ^^), but there is ATM a trading war at the PC EU TTC - one dude is trying to monopolize the market of skeletal parts XD buying whatever entering the market, and then constantly reselling his stuff for millions to push other offers to side 2 of TTC, where casuals are not looking (of course TTC is only supporting tool to show how a real eso market fluctuate).

    What is possibly the best example that the current situation wasn't to well resolve by zos. Wonder what they do with that. If anything -_-

    This is interesting. I have been wondering if this is artificially pushing the market on a lot of items. Flippin has gone a bit crazy IMO and everyone seems to be buying with intent to resell at a higher price it seems, pushing prices ever higher.
  • N3CR01
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    One dude in one of my guilds has a stack of 10 listed for 4m.
    Everywhere else I've looked, one part is selling for 200k+.
  • Ippokrates
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    I didn't thought that it is possible, and i am not sure it is complying with those obscure terms of conditions zos have to argument whatever they want like typhical Internet mogul (i am assuming it is not, cause i am keeping anonymity, sort of ^^), but there is ATM a trading war at the PC EU TTC - one dude is trying to monopolize the market of skeletal parts XD buying whatever entering the market, and then constantly reselling his stuff for millions to push other offers to side 2 of TTC, where casuals are not looking (of course TTC is only supporting tool to show how a real eso market fluctuate).

    What is possibly the best example that the current situation wasn't to well resolve by zos. Wonder what they do with that. If anything -_-

    This is interesting. I have been wondering if this is artificially pushing the market on a lot of items. Flippin has gone a bit crazy IMO and everyone seems to be buying with intent to resell at a higher price it seems, pushing prices ever higher.

    Well, I only hope that this achievement could be completed after the event ends (unlike Feast & Snack), so maybe in future guy stop monopolizing market -_-
  • Chaos2088
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    Hopefully next year the drop of these are back in plunder skulls. As trying to get achivement on an alt character and yeah no.....not spending tickets or spending 399,000 gold on one part...no ty. lol
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  • whitecrow
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    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, I only hope that this achievement could be completed after the event ends (unlike Feast & Snack), so maybe in future guy stop monopolizing market -_-

    Yes, achievements can be completed at any time.
  • Ippokrates
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    Ippokrates wrote: »
    Well, I only hope that this achievement could be completed after the event ends (unlike Feast & Snack), so maybe in future guy stop monopolizing market -_-

    Yes, achievements can be completed at any time.

    Many thanks ;)
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    1,2 million & 3 days of hunting later...

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  • Casul
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    Should just make them cost gold in the impresario.
    PvP needs more love.
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