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Can we have more character slots in the near or distant horizon?
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UntilValhalla13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Maybe they should have used the space that antiquities fills up to give us more characters.
Or companions.
Or any other drastic change to the system that no one asked for that the code probably isn't prepared to handle.0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Most players are only logged in on one character at a time - so there's database access for only one (yes, I'm aware there are outliers who play more than one at a time, but I doubt there are thousands of them), and unless something's entirely wonky with ZOS's database setup, one character at a time per however many players are concurrently online shouldn't be much of an issue.
If there's an issue with the database expanding to hold more than 18 characters per account, that could explain the stricture. Then again, someone like me who has two accounts (18 on each PC NA account, 12 and 13 on the PC EU accounts) could of course just buy a third account, and make 18 more on each server (obviously I still have room on EU - I'll fill those up first....)
So it doesn't make a lot of sense to me, and I use databases on a daily basis - for Word Press sites, and phpBB3 forum sites. And no, I don't have any idea what sort of (probably proprietary) database ZOS uses - doubtful it has much congruence if any with the databases with which I'm familiar, so really this is all just speculation on my part.2 -
Ippokrates✭✭✭✭✭If i had to guess, i would say it is more about economy than technical limitations. More Alts, more writs, more materials, etc.
And if game is going to be developed, as they claim it will be, they need to keep the numbers low in case of introduction of new race or class.1 -
SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well maybe we can but hope maybe the cold storage might help no? Or maybe not?
Though it keeps making this one think of that giant freezer in Westworld.
Brrr at the thought of any of my kittens ever being in there!
Yours with paws
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Luke_Flamesword✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yea, I think that working on cold storage actually can help with this issue. On stream they said that is mostly for non-active accounts (people who don't login into game for many months). Now every account since beta, even players who play a hour on beta and never returned - all of this is in database which making it really huge and demanding for load it. With cold storage not active account will be "transfered" there which will make main database much smaller. When old player will be back after long time he will be loading for couple minutes for first time when his account will be transfered back into main database.
What it means for us? Well database will be much less overhelmed (we talking about millions of not active accounts) so probably it will give space for new slots, classes, etc
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etchedpixels✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not a game developer but I always wonder how database can’t handle more character slots yet it can handle numerous unique instances of different huge houses with like 100 various houses in game and counting.
That, and as I have said before, people always like to say that the database can't handle more character slots, so "just" buy another account (which is an unsatisfactory response for many reasons). But what I keep asking is, if I have 36 (NA + EU) characters on one account, and then buy a new account and add four more characters (two per server), then how is that any different in terms of performance than if I just had one account with 40 characters? It's the same total number of characters; either the servers can handle it or they can't. The difference, of course, is that more accounts = more money for ESO.
I mean, let's be real, if the database couldn't handle more characters, ESO would not be out there actively trying to court new players.
I will hazard a guess having at times had to touch things kind of stuff in other business contexts - for speed you block all the core data together for each account into a single chunk of space that is sized for the worst case. So if you make an "account" (be that MMO or otherwise) bigger by adding something you make *every* account bigger. It's a trade off in efficiency and flexibility but when you need to fish one account out rapidly, and when you need to commit changes back fast it's much easier, much faster and done properly nearly atomic (ie it either all happens or none of it). However that's speculation...
I'm sure if they could they'd be happily selling people more slots, after all that's a lot of crowns for not a lot of resource given you can't play two of them at once.
The housing limits are different - they've publically said in the past that it's down to the engine and limits on the hardware platforms they support.
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huntgod_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭i would like more character slots, 2 more, 4 more...6 more! but i don't see it happening. maybe it will.
another alternative, although not as attractive, would be to be able to create a new account and have your accounts linked, so that everything you have in your first account can be transferred and available in the second one, for example, all your collectables, motifs, gear, homes, etc. even better if your unlocked and purchased dlc was available also. all you'd have to do is pay for a new game. well, this might be a bit much, what i'm suggesting. but some kind of link would be nice. instead of having to start completely from scratch
That is way too easy to exploit and would require a lot of work to keep it from being exploited.--- HuntGod ---
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Nanfoodle✭✭✭✭✭SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?0 -
Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
Not for me nor others who like to create characters more so than various builds. Sure, I’ll be happy to use the free armory slots to facilitate switching between optimization for different activities or roles, but it’s not the thing I primarily play for, what I really enjoy and would pay for. That’s characters and there really is no substitute!7 -
SantieClaws✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
They all mostly have the same 'build' - ish anyway. It's not about builds or roles. It's about personality.
Yours with paws
Santie ClawsShunrr's Skooma Oasis - The Movie. A housing video like no other ...
Find it here - https://youtube.com/user/wenxue2222
Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.
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https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/8 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
Not an answer for me: my characters are all their own people, and they don't have "builds" - each plays a particular style in game. And none of them do group content which would seem to be the only logical reason for people to change builds.
I'm betting I'll never touch the armory feature.5 -
Nanfoodle✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
Not an answer for me: my characters are all their own people, and they don't have "builds" - each plays a particular style in game. And none of them do group content which would seem to be the only logical reason for people to change builds.
I'm betting I'll never touch the armory feature.
Maybe a few of them could develop MPD. When they play a different role, you can dress them different and RP them different.0 -
GreenhaloX✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep the faith, folks.. All in the ESO community that are in support should sound off loud and clear for more character slots!
"We want more character slots.. We want more character slots.. We want more character slots!!!"
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Chaos2088✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Well I didn't really think till someone mentioned it here......the whole thing that they cant give us more slots due to animations and space etc....but gaining millions of new players per year.....if there a techie reason for this?@Chaos2088 PC EU Server | AD-PvP2 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
Not an answer for me: my characters are all their own people, and they don't have "builds" - each plays a particular style in game. And none of them do group content which would seem to be the only logical reason for people to change builds.
I'm betting I'll never touch the armory feature.
Maybe a few of them could develop MPD. When they play a different role, you can dress them different and RP them different.
I don't swap roles on anyone. And no, I'm not interested in the whole thing - I like tons of alts.2 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SantieClaws wrote: »etchedpixels wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
You can of course play on both servers and get another 18 on the other server. Currently on 27.. and no it's not enough. The armoury assistant will help a bit for some where it's about role rather than class/race.
Khajiit already has about six on the US server ...
But they do not have any of the family houses or possessions so mostly they are there so I always have one of my own on the PTS.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
Come visit @karthrag_inak's main house on NA. Pariah's Pinnacle, but done completely in Elsweyr style. Fully stocked guild hall with all set stations, mundus, transmute, bowling alley and performance stage.
All are welcome PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
GM of Imperial Gold Reserve trading guild (started in 2017) since 2/2022
Come visit Karth's Glitter Box, Khajiit's home. Fully stocked guild hall done in sleek Khajiit stylings, with Grand Master Stations, Transmute, Scribing, Trial Dummies, etc. Also has 2 full bowling alleys, nightclub, and floating maze over Wrothgar.(Pariah's Pinacle)0 -
NotaDaedraWorshipper✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Enable my altoholism, ZoS![Lie] Of course! I don't even worship Daedra!3 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »etchedpixels wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
You can of course play on both servers and get another 18 on the other server. Currently on 27.. and no it's not enough. The armoury assistant will help a bit for some where it's about role rather than class/race.
Khajiit already has about six on the US server ...
But they do not have any of the family houses or possessions so mostly they are there so I always have one of my own on the PTS.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
Come visit @karthrag_inak's main house on NA. Pariah's Pinnacle, but done completely in Elsweyr style. Fully stocked guild hall with all set stations, mundus, transmute, bowling alley and performance stage.
All are welcome
Are you PC, @karthrag_inak? I've been hoping to find someone with the IC writ stations.... and I'd really love to see your "Elsweyr style" place!1 -
phaneub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I need at least 20 so I can have two of every race, I'm missing a second High Elf and Wood Elf. Of course a new class to help fill it out would be nice too so I'm not creating a fourth of two existing classes, I'll fill out the third with another Imperial.1 -
ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Araneae6537 wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
Not for me nor others who like to create characters more so than various builds. Sure, I’ll be happy to use the free armory slots to facilitate switching between optimization for different activities or roles, but it’s not the thing I primarily play for, what I really enjoy and would pay for. That’s characters and there really is no substitute!
This right here is why I want more character slots as well. I want more characters, the armory will allow me to freely switch between PVE and PVP roles on those characters that participate in the war, but I want to be able to design more looks, more personalities, more stories. I love spending time designing a handsome face and a complete outfit/style over on the test server so I can create it on live. I have so many character sliders saved and waiting in the wings to be made, but I'd rather have them on my main account where they can be at home in my many houses, with all of the cool mounts and pets and motifs I've gotten in my years of playing, so that they can be a part of the stories of my other already existing character.PC l NA
Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
Legends never die6 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »Araneae6537 wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »18 isnt enough?
Not for this one. Not at all.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
I think the Armory System is there answer to this. Your 18 chars can now have, what is it, 10 builds each?
Not for me nor others who like to create characters more so than various builds. Sure, I’ll be happy to use the free armory slots to facilitate switching between optimization for different activities or roles, but it’s not the thing I primarily play for, what I really enjoy and would pay for. That’s characters and there really is no substitute!
This right here is why I want more character slots as well. I want more characters, the armory will allow me to freely switch between PVE and PVP roles on those characters that participate in the war, but I want to be able to design more looks, more personalities, more stories. I love spending time designing a handsome face and a complete outfit/style over on the test server so I can create it on live. I have so many character sliders saved and waiting in the wings to be made, but I'd rather have them on my main account where they can be at home in my many houses, with all of the cool mounts and pets and motifs I've gotten in my years of playing, so that they can be a part of the stories of my other already existing character.
Yep. I'm with you there.3 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sylvermynx wrote: »karthrag_inak wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »Khajiit already has about six on the US server ...
But they do not have any of the family houses or possessions so mostly they are there so I always have one of my own on the PTS.
Yours with paws
Santie Claws
Come visit @karthrag_inak's main house on NA. Pariah's Pinnacle, but done completely in Elsweyr style. Fully stocked guild hall with all set stations, mundus, transmute, bowling alley and performance stage.
All are welcome
Are you PC, @karthrag_inak? I've been hoping to find someone with the IC writ stations.... and I'd really love to see your "Elsweyr style" place!
Yes! Khajiit is proud member of PC masterace =^.^= (Karth's claws prevent appropriate manipulation of little buttons on controllers)Edited by karthrag_inak on October 20, 2021 5:38AMPC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
GM of Imperial Gold Reserve trading guild (started in 2017) since 2/2022
Come visit Karth's Glitter Box, Khajiit's home. Fully stocked guild hall done in sleek Khajiit stylings, with Grand Master Stations, Transmute, Scribing, Trial Dummies, etc. Also has 2 full bowling alleys, nightclub, and floating maze over Wrothgar.(Pariah's Pinacle)0 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Khajiit would also like more slots. 6 more slots, to have 6 healers (1 of each class), to add to 6 stam dps, 6 mag dps, and 6 tanks.PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
GM of Imperial Gold Reserve trading guild (started in 2017) since 2/2022
Come visit Karth's Glitter Box, Khajiit's home. Fully stocked guild hall done in sleek Khajiit stylings, with Grand Master Stations, Transmute, Scribing, Trial Dummies, etc. Also has 2 full bowling alleys, nightclub, and floating maze over Wrothgar.(Pariah's Pinacle)0 -
WhyMustItBe✭✭✭✭✭
✭The lack of more than 18 character slots is primarily what has driven me to other MMO's recently.
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TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I only have 8 characters and I have been playing ESO for 6 years, how is 18 not enough?1 -
WhyMustItBe✭✭✭✭✭
✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »I only have 8 characters and I have been playing ESO for 6 years, how is 18 not enough?
Why would you assume just because it is enough for you it would be enough for everyone?
Not everyone has the same interests, or plays the same way.
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Zorrin✭✭✭✭✭Between my PC and Xbox accounts and playing on both servers I have... 56 characters. And absolutely no one needed to know that.
Still, I do have a "main server" and I wish I could have everyone on there because that's where all the crowns get spent and all the cosmetic goodies live 2
