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ZOS ARE YOU AWARE OF THE BAT SWARM VAMPIRE ISSUE?
Valn
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It's overpowered in PVP but I can't see anything in the patch notes saying they will fix it?
Right now people are spamming the ultimate (devouring swarm, which people can lower down to cost just 4 ultimate each if you have the right set up), and explains why 3 of them can wipe out entire groups, or last over 2 minutes in battle with 50 people attacking you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM
60% ultimate reduction from Stage 4
20% from dragon set bonus
3% from seducer set bonus
15% if they are a sorcerer
= 98% reduction on ultimate cost = 4 ULTIMATE TO USE
Edited by Valn on April 29, 2014 7:32AM Right now people are spamming the ultimate (devouring swarm, which people can lower down to cost just 4 ultimate each if you have the right set up), and explains why 3 of them can wipe out entire groups, or last over 2 minutes in battle with 50 people attacking you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM60% ultimate reduction from Stage 4
20% from dragon set bonus
3% from seducer set bonus
15% if they are a sorcerer
= 98% reduction on ultimate cost = 4 ULTIMATE TO USE
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Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They don't know how to fix it yet. So far it seems they're going with making every single AOE ability hit 6 targets max, which is like using a sledgehammer to put a tack in the wall and I don't think will fix the problem anyway.0 -
Rologue✭✭✭Vampires doesn't need a nerf, rather the sorc/drac combo needs a nerf. As an archer - any nerf would be devastating - as I don't see those overpowered abilities. Please stop asking for a nerf in the wrong area.Guildmaster of Decimation Elite
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Medwin✭✭✭✭The only nerf vampires need is with their ult, currently you can get it to 34 cost, this means within the five seconds that it is active you can recast it once it finishes.Please read through and comment on my incredibly comprehensive Vampire guide.
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Shillen✭✭✭Vampires need a bigger drawback. Right now you're stupid not to be a vampire. It shouldn't be like that. I don't want to be a vampire but I am because it makes my character much stronger.Edited by Shillen on April 29, 2014 4:59AMPlease LOL my comments. I'm an aspiring comedian.1 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭Vampires doesn't need a nerf, rather the sorc/drac combo needs a nerf. As an archer - any nerf would be devastating - as I don't see those overpowered abilities. Please stop asking for a nerf in the wrong area.
yeah , i agree , they ask for a nerf to vamp because they are themselves using said both classes , but does not matter , eventually , they will also see the nerf hammer.Edited by Nox_Aeterna on April 29, 2014 5:02AM"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭IMO they should be much more ineffective in Day Light, maybe have a reapplying burning debuff as they are in day light.
I haven't PvP'ed in Cyro yet so maybe my insight is lame0 -
Monsoon✭✭✭its ok...in a couple of weeks 95% of players will all be the same vampire bull**** mistform+batswarm OP and we will ALL have the exact same build in Cyrodill and since everybody will be OP nobody will be OP
Edited by Monsoon on April 29, 2014 5:06AM3 -
Trenith✭✭
Actually, it's more like 4 ultimate for sorc's... 34 for EVERYONE ELSE! Hey look not only DK's can get 34 cost ult.
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Hexi✭✭✭✭✭It's not OP, it's simply BUGGED. I wish people would get this through their very thick skulls. At the moment, there isn't a single skill that works at it's supposed to I think.1
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Drachenmutter✭✭✭I guess some have a litte one, but i am only thinking, that means, i didn`t say that!0
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Trenith✭✭Cant wait till 1.1 comes out and the passives all work for vamp.. You guys think we're OP now?
Working passives, no longer having to wait an hour and half+ in order to get ultimate cost reduction. Ah... The tears aren't even real now compared to what they will be in 1.1 2 -
Hexi✭✭✭✭✭
Then you should post that it's BUGGED and needs fixing, not that it's OP and needs nerfing. These are 2 completely different things that have nothing to do with eachother.
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Drachenmutter✭✭✭It gaves a game called DAoC. After a year i guess, they pushed up mages in that way, one Mage with AE stands in a Tower with an Bard in the backround and kills all brave Heros they get close to him and they came over and over, so thats you theorie, vamps are not bugged?
Last at least, players fixed this problem first, before the Gamedeveloppers did this, by changing resists on cold and this AE Mages are history and gone.
So here we have the same problem and developpers dont react, thats the point and dont lell me after 2o Years of PvP, that something is out of way or give me M. Fior. He should explain me that!0 -
blackwolf7✭✭✭To all the idiots who whines and cries instead of learning how to play. The ult reduction + vampire ult isnt op. In fact all you have to do is move away from it instead of being stupid and taking it head on. Just because you suck and cant kill anything doesnt mean everything around you is op.
The problem is that mistform is buggy. Vamps shouldnt be able to heal while in mistform but atm if you cast regen on them before they mistform the ticks still heal them3 -
Drachenmutter✭✭✭I dont wait, this should never be happend. This is for me a point to leave the game. I dont want to play any Vamp or werwolfes, thats the point and be fair. I dont move away from my enemies, are you shure you play the same game like me!?Edited by Drachenmutter on April 29, 2014 5:51AM3
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Rologue✭✭✭
Could do with a few less children in the game... Actually they are like free alliance points. Please don't go... Bad players are needed too.Drachenmutter wrote: »I dont wait, this should never be happend. This is for me a point to leave the game. I dont wantto play any Vamp or werwolfes, thats the point and be fair. I dont move away from my enemies, are you a gay!?
Guildmaster of Decimation Elite
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blackwolf7✭✭✭Drachenmutter wrote: »I dont wait, this should never be happend. This is for me a point to leave the game. I dont want to play any Vamp or werwolfes, thats the point and be fair. I dont move away from my enemies, are you shure you play the same game like me!?
You dont move away from enemy?? Maaaaaannn free alliance pts
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Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭blackwolf7 wrote: »To all the idiots who whines and cries instead of learning how to play. The ult reduction + vampire ult isnt op. In fact all you have to do is move away from it instead of being stupid and taking it head on. Just because you suck and cant kill anything doesnt mean everything around you is op.
The problem is that mistform is buggy. Vamps shouldnt be able to heal while in mistform but atm if you cast regen on them before they mistform the ticks still heal them
You really think vampires are OK and this is a learn-to-play issue? There are small groups of vampires mowing down entire zergs because of broken skill combinations. That includes the ridiculous ult reduction.
It's getting out of hand now. Forget it if the vamp is a DK emperor, it's just crazy broken at that point.
Edited by Holycannoli on April 29, 2014 6:06AM1 -
blackwolf7✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »blackwolf7 wrote: »To all the idiots who whines and cries instead of learning how to play. The ult reduction + vampire ult isnt op. In fact all you have to do is move away from it instead of being stupid and taking it head on. Just because you suck and cant kill anything doesnt mean everything around you is op.
The problem is that mistform is buggy. Vamps shouldnt be able to heal while in mistform but atm if you cast regen on them before they mistform the ticks still heal them
You really think vampires are OK and this is a learn-to-play issue? There are small groups of vampires mowing down entire zergs because of broken skill combinations. That includes the ridiculous ult reduction.
It's getting out of hand now. Forget it if the vamp is a DK emperor, it's just crazy broken at that point.
Like ive said the main reason they can do that is because mistform is broken not the ult reduction. Mistform makes them take 75% reduce dmg and according to tool tip they shouldnt receive amy heals, but atm when they have hot and casted mistform the hot stays making them unkillable.
Oncw they fix that, even if they spam ult, they would not have any means of healing and will die regardless of the 75% reductiom
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Drachenmutter✭✭✭If i want to play an OP Vampire or Werwolve style. I want a Antistyle infect. This is missing and this is one part of many Questions a game rides his beta and get be payed.0
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Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭blackwolf7 wrote: »Like ive said the main reason they can do that is because mistform is broken not the ult reduction. Mistform makes them take 75% reduce dmg and according to tool tip they shouldnt receive amy heals, but atm when they have hot and casted mistform the hot stays making them unkillable.
Oncw they fix that, even if they spam ult, they would not have any means of healing and will die regardless of the 75% reductiom
Spamming the ult is also a problem though. No ultimate should be spammable. The mechanics of ult reduction are broken and allow ridiculous reductions like a cost of 4 ultimate. When it's not being reduced to that amount it's being paired with reflective scales and it's just causing a huge mess.
It's true though that fixing mist form's healing is very important. That includes the bat swarm's healing. There should be NO healing whatsoever in mist form.
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