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✭✭✭✭✭WitchAngel wrote: »@ZOS_LenaicRZOS_LenaicR wrote: »Hi there,
We've removed the name calling as it was circumventing our rules: Naming-and-Shaming.
While we understand that your intentions are to improve the game, please make sure to report bots directly InGame. We're taking this problem really seriously and our teams are working hard to solve it. Be assured that all your tickets are addressed.
Many thanks for your report regarding these bots, we really appreciate your time!
I strongly suggest you make a dropdown item in the "report player" window, called "suspected bot" or similar. Having to type stuff each time when you are going to report a solid block of bots, is kind of discouraging.
TLDR; If you want our help, make it easier for us to help you.
It'd probably make the CS reps' lives easier as well, since you could then presort your Spam and Bot reports before inflicting it on them.0 -
Tell me you can click in two windows at the same time without any software that duplicates mouse movement, come one, I dare you.
You can do this with hardware, you don't even need to get multiple mice or keyboards for it. Same thing with keycloning, it can be done with hardware just as easily as it can with software.
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Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭/rolls eyes
You have a team of about "x" employees answering probably 75,000 tickets. It's not an immediate process, and No they can't go around banning bots just because you said they are bots. It HAS to be investigated first.
There is nothing written in TOS about multi-boxing, so how do you know one active player doesn't have his 4th and 5th accounts just auto-following his first?
You don't. That's why they need to be investigated.0 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭WitchAngel wrote: »@ZOS_LenaicR
I strongly suggest you make a dropdown item in the "report player" window, called "suspected bot" or similar. Having to type stuff each time when you are going to report a solid block of bots, is kind of discouraging.
TLDR; If you want our help, make it easier for us to help you.
You understand why they cannot do this right? How many people would abuse/troll this feature by reporting someone they don't like, and just waste company dollars investigating a legit account.
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Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭Common sense seems to be a skill box where in a lot of people here just don't invest a point or two.0 -
Wreaken✭✭✭
Sorry for being an "ignorant" o "great smart one", but:
1) In the EULA point 4/C
Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game;
If you take the time to see the video its impossible to make that multiboxing/botting/"or whatever you want call it" coordination without a third-party software.
2) Wiki quote: Multiboxing is a term used mostly in MMORPGs to refer to playing as multiple separate characters simultaneously. This can either be achieved by using multiple separate machines to run the game or by running multiple separate instances of the game.
Variations on the term are common. Often, the number of accounts used is reflected in the term used: dual-boxing or two-boxing for two characters, three-boxing for three etc.
So please "great one" pardon me, a mere ignorant mortal but I think Im right.
Anyway thx for reading my post
You are confusing multiboxing with botting, that's your problem here.
Multiboxing = 1 person playing two accounts without the assistance of any third party programs with the use of nothing more then in game /commands to assist in game play.
Edited by Wreaken on April 29, 2014 2:28AM
Taemek Frozenberg, Leader of <Epoch Gaming>
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Etchesketch✭✭✭✭
Sorry for being an "ignorant" o "great smart one", but:
1) In the EULA point 4/C
Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game;
If you take the time to see the video its impossible to make that multiboxing/botting/"or whatever you want call it" coordination without a third-party software.
2) Wiki quote: Multiboxing is a term used mostly in MMORPGs to refer to playing as multiple separate characters simultaneously. This can either be achieved by using multiple separate machines to run the game or by running multiple separate instances of the game.
Variations on the term are common. Often, the number of accounts used is reflected in the term used: dual-boxing or two-boxing for two characters, three-boxing for three etc.
So please "great one" pardon me, a mere ignorant mortal but I think Im right.
Anyway thx for reading my post
You are confusing multiboxing with botting, that's your problem here.
Multiboxing = 1 person playing two accounts without the assistance of any third party programs.
But the actual problem is the multiboxing botters.. and what you see everywhere is multiboxing bots...
Not players multiboxing. If they are truly multiboxing legit, you wouldn't know they were doing it.The number one rule of online gaming is now and has always been, Never play on Patch Day.1 -
Leovolao✭✭✭✭✭Did someone just said, that multiboxing is the same player using, let's say, 4 keyboards and 4 mouses at once, to control team of 4 is more probable than the same person using 3rd party software to control 3 miltibox characters?
Seriously, I have no words.Multi-Boxing is where a player is at the keyboard controlling two accounts at the same time Thus it is legal and NOT against the EULA
Tell me you can click in two windows at the same time without any software that duplicates mouse movement, come one, I dare you.
He never said that there wasn't a program involved in multiboxing. He just said that even if a dude is running 2+ accounts at the same time there's still a dude playing. That makes it legal
EDIT: I stand corrected, he did say you don't need third party sw... even then, multiboxing can be done via a demultiplexer kb in order to send the signal to different computers.Edited by Leovolao on April 29, 2014 2:42AMtea pot
"What if my problem wasn't that I don't understand people but that I don't like them?"0 -
OakforceSoul ShrivenKenny_McCormick wrote: »
Sorry for being an "ignorant" o "great smart one", but:
1) In the EULA point 4/C
Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game;
If you take the time to see the video its impossible to make that multiboxing/botting/"or whatever you want call it" coordination without a third-party software.
2) Wiki quote: Multiboxing is a term used mostly in MMORPGs to refer to playing as multiple separate characters simultaneously. This can either be achieved by using multiple separate machines to run the game or by running multiple separate instances of the game.
Variations on the term are common. Often, the number of accounts used is reflected in the term used: dual-boxing or two-boxing for two characters, three-boxing for three etc.
So please "great one" pardon me, a mere ignorant mortal but I think Im right.
Anyway thx for reading my post
still ignorant! Botting is where nobody is at the keyboard THUS its illigal
Multi-Boxing is where a player is at the keyboard controlling two accounts at the same time Thus it is legal and NOT against the EULA
only time its against the EULA is if its software controlled...if there is a player controlling all the toons and is actually pressing keys then it is legal and does not go against it...please do a little more research BEFORE you quote the EULA. WoW it says the same thing in the EULA. HOWEVER it has been asked multiple times in the forums and they have said what i have said.
THUS multiboxing = OK Botting = NOT OK
You.... again.....
Please see again the final part of the video. When the leading "bot" stop and open the inventory while the others two stay there without moving or doing anything.
You say they are all bots.. oks then this bot is a "ghost in the shell" or more apocalyptic setup where the machines take conscience? because if they are ALL bots then they should do all the same... but this one do things for his own. For that its possible it could be a player.. no??? so whe are talking of Multi-Boxing!!!!!!!
About the EULA... in few words you cant multiboxing or botting without a third-party software easy as that.
And if that is not enough an easy example, a guy is playing pvp and another guy controling 3 characters nuke him with one button and insta kill him... that in my diccionary is "adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game" another break of the EULA.
And btw this is not a nerd discussion about multiboxing/botting/ if its legal or not...
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✭So Oakforce, four players using Teamspeak who coordinate nuking a person in PvP when they all press a button at the same time is also "Adversely impact any other persons playing..."
Yeah, good luck winning that argument.
Nothing wrong with multi-boxing.Kenny_McCormick wrote: »
About the EULA... in few words you cant multiboxing or botting without a third-party software easy as that.
And if that is not enough an easy example, a guy is playing pvp and another guy controling 3 characters nuke him with one button and insta kill him... that in my diccionary is "adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game" another break of the EULA.
And btw this is not a nerd discussion about multiboxing/botting/ if its legal or not...Edited by Makkir on April 29, 2014 2:50AM0 -
I dont know why you guys are arguing over multi boxing, it's impossible to box this game so it's not even an issue unless you want to educate someone who thinks boxing is botting but what for?0
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I have to disagree with you simply because if you can bot, you can box. It is some of the same type of software. And its a trend for the botters to multibox btw.Robbiejuve wrote: »I dont know why you guys are arguing over multi boxing, it's impossible to box this game so it's not even an issue unless you want to educate someone who thinks boxing is botting but what for?
This is my Signature, but not really because I didn't sign it with a pen and its not my name.0 -
Razzak✭✭✭✭✭Can bots type?
If not, they could try fighting them with in-game queries to the player. While a char is in the game, query or question would appear on the screen, asking a player to type in an answer.
If that train is multiboxing, player will be able to answer, if not there will be no answer and they can put this account on hold.0 -
Lovely✭✭✭yeathatguy wrote: »The simple answer here is that ESO is getting paid for every account so yeah they are really ok with this cause their kids gotta eat bro.
I doubt it. I think the botters chargeback. And this is probably why bot population doesn't seem to be dwindling. What could be done in such a case, I wonder...Edited by Lovely on April 29, 2014 6:52AM0 -
OakforceSoul ShrivenSo Oakforce, four players using Teamspeak who coordinate nuking a person in PvP when they all press a button at the same time is also "Adversely impact any other persons playing..."
Yeah, good luck winning that argument.
Nothing wrong with multi-boxing.Kenny_McCormick wrote: »
About the EULA... in few words you cant multiboxing or botting without a third-party software easy as that.
And if that is not enough an easy example, a guy is playing pvp and another guy controling 3 characters nuke him with one button and insta kill him... that in my diccionary is "adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game" another break of the EULA.
And btw this is not a nerd discussion about multiboxing/botting/ if its legal or not...
four players using Teamspeak who coordinate ...... you just made a description of pvp.... thats is four players doing something not one player playing with 4 characters....
The great problem always with pvp is the balance between classes, you hope you can beat anyone 1 vs 1 but with multi-boxing you will never beat that player.
And about "Nothing wrong with multi-boxing." .. ... .. you really think that?, you think its normal when this game dont even allow nameplates for the "immersion" in the game playing with a guy at your side that has 3 clones on the same spot?? doing the same? .. curious..Edited by Oakforce on April 29, 2014 7:31AM0