Dragonknight Hybrid Theorycrafting (PVP)

XiokroDarc · October 2021

With sets being Hybridize in the upcoming DLC release, What sets seem juicy to run on a HybridDK? Deadly Strike is one that still comes to mind, but sets like Innate Axiom could have there time to shine depending on how its built.

Been thinking of using (venomous claw+pooprocks+noxious+fossilize+flame lash) being what i see as a decent combo with a fire charged staff to apply burning.

And with coagulating blood and volatile armor as my main defensive skills (coag being a decent heal with the extra healing and volatile being melee range damage).

That plus the recent change to Domihaus and Ash Cloud I could see gain some good combos coming up. I have a few builds in mind but I want to see what everyone else has to say about it.

I would like to see builds that are as hybrid and unique as possible while still seemingly be viable on paper. (Obviously cant test it 100% til it goes live)

This is a meta shakeup after all, so lets change the meta.

I see dk putting out both massive amounts of fire and poison damage having great potential.

Please try to keep this civil, I don't want people that are hating on the new changes here. Try and theory craft with me and see what new builds we can come up with.

GRXRG · October 2021

The playstyle which seems to tend into hybrid dk is prolly Dw frontbar to have the best spell and weap damage, probably with swords; backbar could be sword and board or ice staff, and you are going to use Molten Armaments for both major sorcery and brutality.

I would avoid Flame Lash, but use instead Molten Whip as burst skill and helps building more spell and weapon damage as well, purely because you cannot sustain flame lash as spammable in an hybrid spec, you have lot of buffs to keep up using magicka, and you prolly wanna use Coagulating Blood as well for burst heal.

If you wanna go with a mythic, Death's Dealer comes in handy for the best mythic hybrid, paired with Orzorga food which is a must have in any hybrid spec in my opinion, or bewitched if dk sustain next patch will be awesome like it seems will be.

About sets there will be definitely lot of options.

You can start building with Deadric Trickery backbar and you cannot go wrong, insanely good set on any dk spec.
Magma Incarnate if you have slots it's very solid.

Now you need a damage set to frontbar which can be anything: Deadly Strike like you said, Plaguebreak if you want a dot focused build or maybe even Burning Spellweave if you fit a Flame damage skill in the bar.

I feel hybrids will be viable, but I have the feeling pure magicka or pure stamina are going to be superior anyway for some reason, and for better resources max pools maybe.

We will see tho.

Mind what I said it's a really skeleton idea to start from, so who knows.

XiokroDarc · October 2021

GRXRG wrote: »

Mind what I said it's a really skeleton idea to start from, so who knows.

The more variations the better. I just see the potential of having near 100% uptime on fire and poison being useful, after all it is more dot damage. And yeah I still believe pure stats will be superior at the end of the day so Idk why so many people are complaining about "oh my best in slot meta gear that I haven't taken off in 3 years will be slightly less meta" This will simply make more sets viable.

I was also thinking Rush of Agony and Encratis's Behemoth for a magdk/hybrid. It would play as a type of "get over here" scorpion playstyle that could also pair nicely with Eruptions + DeepBreath + Standard or Leap. Using molten whip and the newly buffed flames of oblivion

Stx · October 2021

Deadly strike won't be used for the same reason it hasn't been used on stamina builds thus far.. dk doesn't have a channeled spammable.

Axiom has been a hybrid set forever and hasn't seen use, I don't see why it would now.

To be honest I'm not sure there is any reason to run a hybrid dk unless it greatly helps overall sustain. The original hybrid dks were designed with a specific purpose in mind.. stacking super high weapon damage with pelinals to get fat molten whip tooltips and combine with vigor heals before coag was a good self heal.

XiokroDarc · October 2021

Stx wrote: »

Deadly strike won't be used for the same reason it hasn't been used on stamina builds thus far.. dk doesn't have a channeled spammable.

Axiom has been a hybrid set forever and hasn't seen use, I don't see why it would now.

To be honest I'm not sure there is any reason to run a hybrid dk unless it greatly helps overall sustain. The original hybrid dks were designed with a specific purpose in mind.. stacking super high weapon damage with pelinals to get fat molten whip tooltips and combine with vigor heals before coag was a good self heal.

Looks like someone didnt read the post. I dont care if hybrid are less viable. This is to theorycraft and make new combos, its not meant to be meta or best in slot or anything. Its for fun, some people would rather have a fun pvp build than an easy cheesy build.

katorga · October 2021

Best option for classes with strong magicka heals is to use stam skills for damage, mag skills for heals. Assuming your spell damage, crit and penetration are roughly the same as your weapon damage and crit, stam builds will get access to massive heals with no downside. DK, stamcro, stamden, are going to have full power mag healing.

On the other side you'll see stam sorcs lining up burst with curse, mages wrath, crystal weapon. Magcros using the stamina blastbones for defile, harmony bombs into spin2win, Etc.

It is going to be all kind of broken and result in all sorts of knee-jerk set and skill nerfs next patch.

Edited: At least for pvp.