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How unbalanced PVP is (Video)

Wrymn
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In this video I am chasing one guy for maybe 2 minutes. He always teleports or uses mist form to be untargetable/unstunable, then he teleports etc.

Before I started recording, there were maybe 4+ of us chasing him Slowing / stunning / knockbacking him down. He kept escaping for about 7 minutes.

There has to be something done about this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD-8ZQhhyTw
Edited by Wrymn on April 28, 2014 5:41PM
  • Trenith
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    Stop being bad. Mist form can be countered. Vamps can be knocked out of mist and when you do its GG vamp.

    Source: Im a vamp.
  • the.dzeneralb16_ESO
    It looks like you didn't have enough CC, or almost any at that.
  • Wrymn
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    Trenith wrote: »
    Stop being bad. Mist form can be countered. Vamps can be knocked out of mist and when you do its GG vamp.

    Source: Im a vamp.

    You saw this video.....Don`t like comments like yours. You saw me in video throwing knockouts at him but nothing. Before video started there were maybe 4 of us stunning and slowing him down.
    It looks like you didn't have enough CC, or almost any at that.

    No offence but - are you blind? :D

    I was throwing at him crystal fragment as much as I could, before 4 ppl were throwing at him stuns, slows, knockout everything, but you CANNOT target or stun mists form.
    Edited by Wrymn on April 28, 2014 5:33PM
  • the.dzeneralb16_ESO
    Dodging stuns is fairly easy with remotely decent timing.
  • Trenith
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    Actually I didn't watch your video because I know what your trying to do and what your not doing without even looking. All I am going to say is "Tab". Try it.
  • steven_shidiwenb16_ESO
    I never have any problems like this... CC them. if you gave them the chance to escape, they deserve to escape. Simple as that.
  • davidhorstub17_ESO
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    youre right bolt escape is ridiculous your class should be nerfed, mist form however is working as intended Kappa.
  • blackwolf7
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    More like how whiny players are in pvp. Learn to play.

    Youre just to slow to cc him that he was able to bolt escape / mistform.

    Tip: once you saw an enemy be fast enough to cc him.
  • Xael
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    It's unbelievable how many stupid people are playing this game.

    OP your awareness is extremely poor. Moreover your inability to navigate over hills and terrain is ridiculous. You don't use tab target. Your spell / ability selection is terrible, why are you complaining again? People like you deserve to get juked / beaten in pvp.

    Watching your video we learn the following:
    • At the very beginning of the encounter you pause, then charge a staff attack instead of casting something useful
    • no tab target
    • You can't even follow him without getting confused / hung up on something
    • You have Streak yet don't spam it, rather waste mana on useless things
    • No mana pots, no potions at all... wtf? You are level what? 40 at least, you have Streak...
    • no Rapid Maneuvers slotted
    • no Silver Shards/Bolts slotted
    • rune prison or morph not slotted
    • encase or morph not slotted
    • no Atronauch slotted for ult, soul strike instead
    • 57 seconds in, he is in range for any type of cc, what do you do? move forward, hold block, pop ult (soul strike) and die.
    *slow clap*

    Sadly the vast majority of people crying for this nerf or that nerf are no better than OP. All victims of bad choices and SH*T playing. This is clearly a "learn to play" issue.
    Edited by Xael on April 29, 2014 2:51AM
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • Makkir
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    I wonder if the Target Dummies in Stormwind gave him this much trouble?
  • blackwolf7
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    Op must be a spoiled kid who gets what he wants at home without working hard for it. Apparently, that attitude was brought to this community thinking that if someone is better than him they must be cheating or op without even realizing that he jsut doesnt know how to play
  • Arsenic_Touch
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    Xael covered everything that came to mind after watching this video and then some. This is definitely a case of learning to play and counter a class and not an issue of imbalance.
    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?

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  • Trenith
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    Xael wrote: »
    It's unbelievable how many stupid people are playing this game.

    OP your awareness is extremely poor. Moreover your inability to navigate over hills and terrain is ridiculous. You don't use tab target. Your spell / ability selection is terrible, why are you complaining again? People like you deserve to get juked / beaten in pvp.

    Watching your video we learn the following:
    • At the very beginning of the encounter you pause, then charge a staff attack instead of casting something useful
    • no tab target
    • You can't even follow him without getting confused / hung up on something
    • You have Streak yet don't spam it, rather waste mana on useless things
    • No mana pots, no potions at all... wtf? You are level what? 40 at least, you have Streak...
    • no Rapid Maneuvers slotted
    • no Silver Shards/Bolts slotted
    • rune prison or morph not slotted
    • encase or morph not slotted
    • no Atronauch slotted for ult, soul strike instead
    • 57 seconds in, he is in range for any type of cc, what do you do? move forward, hold block, pop ult (soul strike) and die.
    *slow clap*

    Sadly the vast majority of people crying for this nerf or that nerf are no better than OP. All victims of bad choices and SH*T playing. This is clearly a "learn to play" issue.

    You sir are my hero. Marry me?
  • Makkir
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    At least he's using a flame staff.
  • soalrism
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    thanks for the upload! confirms my theory that 99% of the nerf-cryers are nothing more than complaints from bad players who can't play the game...
  • Wrymn
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    It looks like you didn't have enough CC, or almost any at that.


    Trenith wrote: »
    Xael wrote: »
    It's unbelievable how many stupid people are playing this game.

    OP your awareness is extremely poor. Moreover your inability to navigate over hills and terrain is ridiculous. You don't use tab target. Your spell / ability selection is terrible, why are you complaining again? People like you deserve to get juked / beaten in pvp.

    Watching your video we learn the following:
    • At the very beginning of the encounter you pause, then charge a staff attack instead of casting something useful
    • no tab target
    • You can't even follow him without getting confused / hung up on something
    • You have Streak yet don't spam it, rather waste mana on useless things
    • No mana pots, no potions at all... wtf? You are level what? 40 at least, you have Streak...
    • no Rapid Maneuvers slotted
    • no Silver Shards/Bolts slotted
    • rune prison or morph not slotted
    • encase or morph not slotted
    • no Atronauch slotted for ult, soul strike instead
    • 57 seconds in, he is in range for any type of cc, what do you do? move forward, hold block, pop ult (soul strike) and die.
    *slow clap*

    Sadly the vast majority of people crying for this nerf or that nerf are no better than OP. All victims of bad choices and SH*T playing. This is clearly a "learn to play" issue.

    You sir are my hero. Marry me?


    Thank you thank you for your advice. I will try to use it next time I am in game.

    but combination of teleport end vampire mist form should be nerfed. Have you sen in any game this thing that players can escape forever? No, because its ridiculous even in World of Warcraft blink teleport has cool down and blizzard knows why. Imagine I wasn't sorcerer thus I wouldn't have bolt escape.
    Edited by Wrymn on April 29, 2014 5:43AM
  • Censorious
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    I hope the OP learned as much from this as I did.
    (When somebody who's been running forever suddenly turns to block - ya gotta wonder why!)
    'Clever' sigs get old real fast - just like this one.
  • Necronomicon
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    Lol all the posters flaming op, run the same build and just dont wanna see it nerfed, being un-ccable and able to teleport a vast amount of times, is op. Calling the other player bad doesnt justify a broken/op build.
  • Wrymn
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    Lol all the posters flaming op, run the same build and just dont wanna see it nerfed, being un-ccable and able to teleport a vast amount of times, is op. Calling the other player bad doesnt justify a broken/op build.

    This, finally someone with common sense
  • Kalwein_Ohyx
    I like this post, very intresting.

    So to be good in pvp you need to be a vamp or able to counter vamps?

    Im not disagreeing with either "sides" here (good insights from many people really) but rather thinking of the big picture. The very core of this is unless you spec to be able to counter a vamp you are useless. The only conclution are that the vamp abilities are to powerful.

  • tjockis1981
    Well my guild was supposed to have an evening doing PvP yesterday and our overall feelig is that the PvP is so screwed that its not even fun anymore. And looking on how all but 2 campaigns have dropped down to low in less than a week i feel that my guild is not the only one having these concerns. Theres so many flaws atm and no point listing them all here either. May it be Vets beeing insanly OP (yes, they are supposed to have some advantage but come on) or the maps beeing totally dominated all the time allover by one team wich leads to little to none fun PvP and the crushed teams stops to PvP at all. Im usally one of those that have fun on those whining allover and doomsayers in other games. But this time im actually starting to get a little scared myself since i like the game and belive it have chance to evolve to a really good game if they take good care of the issues in hand.

    Well well... game on and hope this game will not go to die where most mmos of today goes to die...
  • WitchAngel
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    Trenith wrote: »
    Stop being bad. Mist form can be countered. Vamps can be knocked out of mist and when you do its GG vamp.

    Source: Im a vamp.
    "Source: Im a vamp."
    @Trenith
    You really don't have to state the obvious.
    I will throw something at ya, which whining vamps tend to throw at others:
    Learn to Play. (without an OP'ed setup.)
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