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Will Microsoft start kicking off/tracking those who continue to use outdated windows programs?

HonoriAmma
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For those who play ESO on computers that still run windows 10. Just curious. The last update killed my game so, got me thinking.
Edited by HonoriAmma on October 6, 2021 11:35PM
  • JavaRen
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    Uhm, paranoid much? And how did the last update "kill your game?"
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    I'm also curious about what killed your game.

    But no, tons of people use Win10 and they aren't all going to turn on a dime and adopt Win11. It wasn't even that long ago that a sizable number of gamers were still using Win7. There is no business upside to forcing your players to make changes to their systems like that.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    They don't "kick off" people using Win 7, either. They just warn you that you won't get any updates or security improvements.


    And Win 10 is still currently supported and will be for years.
  • bmnoble
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    I know people still using windows 7 without issues, they don't kick you off based on your operating system.

    I think they said its 2024 or 2025 before windows 10 will stop getting updates.
  • Sylvermynx
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    Win 10 eol's in 2025. I'm not ever moving to 11.... guess I'll be figuring out linux at some point. If MS decides to disallow win 10 for this game, I'll be moving to linux a lot sooner. I have good friends who can help me with that....
  • Minyassa
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    Nah. I'm still on Windows 7 and it's fine for now.
  • Chips_Ahoy
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    Yesterday i installed Windows 11 on my PC and TESO works very well.

    My lapop has Windows 7 and I have no intention of updating the OS and TESO works.
    Edited by Chips_Ahoy on October 7, 2021 1:26AM
  • Amottica
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    Considering most of us on PC are probably using W10 it would seem like a dumb business move so I seriously doubt MS would do such a thing. Just look at when apple did an update that changed how older iPhones worked when their batteries were less than optimal. It was intended to help but it became a bad PR issue.
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    Chips_Ahoy wrote: »
    Yesterday i installed Windows 11 on my PC and TESO works very well.

    My lapop has Windows 7 and I have no intention of updating the OS and TESO works.

    That's good to hear! Yesterday I got a message saying that my computer can run Windows 11, but I haven't gotten the actual update yet; presumably they're rolling it out in waves, like they did Windows 10. I'm looking forward to it, but I did wonder if it would create any issues for ESO and my other games.
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  • phairdon
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    Running ESO on windows 7, my old pc. Windows 10 and windows 11. Game runs fine on windows 11.
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Win 10 eol's in 2025. I'm not ever moving to 11.... guess I'll be figuring out linux at some point. If MS decides to disallow win 10 for this game, I'll be moving to linux a lot sooner. I have good friends who can help me with that....
    Every second windows version has been bad for two decades: Windows ME, Vista, 8.
    Think I wait for 12 :)
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  • whitecrow
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    There's a Windows 11?
  • phairdon
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    whitecrow wrote: »
    There's a Windows 11?

    Released October 5th.

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    Edited by phairdon on October 7, 2021 2:47AM
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • Sheridan
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    "on computers that still run windows 10"? I am on Windows 7. ;)
  • phaneub17_ESO
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    The last thing that "killed" ESO on my PC was reinstalling Geforce Experience, because I had moved install location of ESO from the boot drive to an M.2 NVMe SSD, but Geforce Experience still thought the game was on the boot drive. Suffice to say trying to run the game caused a conflict between the two programs and ESO just wouldn't go beyond the launcher, after removing Geforce Experience... again, it worked out no problem.
  • DreamyLu
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Win 10 eol's in 2025. I'm not ever moving to 11.... guess I'll be figuring out linux at some point. If MS decides to disallow win 10 for this game, I'll be moving to linux a lot sooner. I have good friends who can help me with that....

    I'm so tired of Microsoft (the list of my complaints would be too long), that I swapped to Linux on my work computer. I'm very happy with it. The freedom it gives is really enjoyable. I would however not take the risk to do that swapping on my gaming compy. Before to start with that, make very sure how far you can get technical support from the different companies involved.
    Edited by DreamyLu on October 7, 2021 8:01AM
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  • etchedpixels
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    ESO runs under Steam Proton on Linux, but given Zenimax have disowned the newer Macintosh when they did support Mac, I can't seem them supporting Linux. Not unless the steam handheld is remarkably successful.

    Edited by etchedpixels on October 7, 2021 10:59AM
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  • DinoZavr
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    i am still running Windows 7 on my old PC.
    I had purchased it completely legitimate, and the fact it fallen under end-of-life is not a that huge annoyance.
    Also my newer PC is not Windows 11 compatible: no TPM 2.0 (the CPU is 9th gen though), but i can predict A LOT of rather good systems running older CPUs, thus making them non-Win11-compliant, as requirement to have 8th generation CPU or newer is kinda tough (considering newer CPUs have newer sockets, thus making old motherboards with pre LGA1151 non-upgradeable)
    (link: Intel CPUs for Win 11 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors)

    ESO minimal windows OS requirements is still Windows 7 x64
    https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3313/~/what-are-the-system-requirements-for-the-elder-scrolls-online-on-pc-/-mac?

    So, i play ESO and do not see any reason to worry about. :)
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  • Danikat
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    Microsoft never forces everyone off an old versions of Windows and doesn't discontinue support for them until a few years after a new version has been released (often only after 2+ new versions have been released). That goes for games and other programs they own as well as how Windows itself works.

    The most that will happen is it gets to be so old and goes unsupported for so long that it's no longer compatible with newer software and security risks that are identified aren't fixed, making it increasingly vulnerable to hackers, viruses etc. but even that won't actually stop people using it, even when they should.

    I think for some people the only thing which does stop them using older versions of Windows is when the PC running it breaks and they have to get a new one and discover it's impossible to get one with the version of Windows they had before. Although these days a lot of people in that situation just get a tablet instead and laugh at you or act like you're so obsessed with computers you're trying to run some insane specialist software only NASA would ever need if you tell them there are things a PC can do which a tablet can't. :# (Not thinking of anyone specific at all...)

    For ESO specifically it's possible that at some point in the future they will update the game for what will then be modern computers in a way that makes it incompatible with older ones, but considering their current recommended version of Windows is 7 I think it will be a very long time before they discontinue support for Windows 10.
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  • moo_2021
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    I run Windows Server 2019 (cheap legal license from G2deal), no feature update, no annoying "apps", nothing new whatsoever, end of support is 2029.

    Aside from finding win7 xbox controller driver, I have had zero problem and there won't be any update to kill the game. Last reboot was 3 months ago and before that 1 or 2 years.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    phairdon wrote: »
    whitecrow wrote: »
    There's a Windows 11?

    Released October 5th.

    And based on the "Look at all the neat new features!" articles I've seen, it's got a bunch of stuff I don't care about, along with some stuff I actively don't want.

    (and I just moved up to 10 last September, so... :D )
  • kojou
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Win 10 eol's in 2025. I'm not ever moving to 11.... guess I'll be figuring out linux at some point. If MS decides to disallow win 10 for this game, I'll be moving to linux a lot sooner. I have good friends who can help me with that....

    I am going to make my main PC dual boot in to linux to start making the shift this year. I will keep Windows 10 around until it is de-supported, but with Steam coming out with the Linux based console (Steam Deck) we might start seeing more gaming support in Linux than has ever been before.
    Playing since beta...
  • Sylvermynx
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    kojou wrote: »
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Win 10 eol's in 2025. I'm not ever moving to 11.... guess I'll be figuring out linux at some point. If MS decides to disallow win 10 for this game, I'll be moving to linux a lot sooner. I have good friends who can help me with that....

    I am going to make my main PC dual boot in to linux to start making the shift this year. I will keep Windows 10 around until it is de-supported, but with Steam coming out with the Linux based console (Steam Deck) we might start seeing more gaming support in Linux than has ever been before.

    I hope so - but I'm not touching steam deck either. I actively dislike steam. What I really want to see is skyrim move to GOG.
  • moo_2021
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    kojou wrote: »
    I am going to make my main PC dual boot in to linux to start making the shift this year. I will keep Windows 10 around until it is de-supported, but with Steam coming out with the Linux based console (Steam Deck) we might start seeing more gaming support in Linux than has ever been before.

    Good luck! :D:D I was a long term linux user and one of a few gamers on it since the days when sound blaster card was a necessity because driver devs outrightly refused to allow more than one program playing sound. ZOS is like an angel compared to the dev community where different sides push their meaningless ideological agendas that nobody cares and screw up everything important.
    Edited by moo_2021 on October 7, 2021 2:16PM
  • whitecrow
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    phairdon wrote: »
    whitecrow wrote: »
    There's a Windows 11?

    Released October 5th.

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    Ah, neat. My PC can't run it though, oh well.
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    I've no intention of upgrading to Windows 11, at least until such time as I can see a reason to do so. I understand that some people must have the newest shiny thing especially when they haven't got to pay for it, and I've seen some of them on another game forum bemoaning the fact that that particular game isn't running properly on Windows 11.

    My two Windows 7 machines have run ESO flawlessly since launch, with one of them continuing to do so after I upgraded it to Windows 10 last year, and with the other continuing to do so still on Windows 7 with security protection from 0patch. Updating is still available from Microsoft, of course, it's just that it's not free. In any event, neither machine is compatible with Windows 11 which is not a problem as it offers nothing new or better that I'm aware of.
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    As with all new versions of Windows I'll upgrade when my current pc melts.
  • HonoriAmma
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    Interesting responses.
    https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/6/22217052/microsoft-windows-7-109-million-pcs-usage-stats-analytics

    100 mil still using Win 7. I wonder what percentage of that are on TESO?

    And no one finds it coincidental that months after acquisition by Mircrosoft that, suddenly, you, on your win 7, simply cannot launch your launcher? Well, ok, it's not the first time you woke up to play the game and *BOOP* nothing. right?

    As usual, in my defense, I tried, just out of curiosity, to upgrade to windows 10, and VOILA! The launcher worked like a charm, but my GAME,
    (because there is so much bloatware on Windows 10 that my pc and outdated graphics card consistently say "nope, nyet".)

    Will not run on WIndows 10. well..Other than the LAUNCHER! which runs like a champeeen!

    SO ironically, the three times I've tried and ditched Windows 10 is because my ESO game, the only game i play, will not run on it.

    You don't need to throw stones at me, when it dies, I'll just go back to skyrim and stop bitching. But remember me when, in a year, Microsoft stops supporting your windows 11 computer and comes up with the better, more bloatware, spyware, underware Windows 12!

    Why don't some of you smart guys out there, who are convinced I'm an idiot (and I probably am) get together and come up with a BETTER Platform that will challenge this UNCHALLENGED Company so that they have to start lowering their prices and coming up with a product that doesn't want to sit and stare at you from your laptop? I mean if Microsoft looked like a creepy old grampa coming into your room and watching your every move, do you really want that?
    and if you do, well, that's a WHOLE other conversation for another day.
    Edited by HonoriAmma on October 9, 2021 3:50PM
  • Sylvermynx
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    @HonoriAmma - did you try launching the game from a shortcut to eso64.exe? The only time you need the launcher is for updates - unless you bought through steam. If that's the case, did you check on the steam forum to see if anyone can help with your issue?
  • Sahqon
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    There's a two second microsoft fix for the launcher issue, which I also had to use, you can find it in the bug reports section. But otherwise the game launches from the exe file no problem
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