trackdemon5512 wrote: »

Vhozek wrote: »

Maya_Nur wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

3. You, never thinking about 19 millions of other players, cry that oneshoting a Skeever in a starter zone is... boring.

They have decided to remain silent (Or where are they? I can't see). It means they don't care much about how things are and if someone (active part of the community) will decide it for them, then it is fine for them.

Those numbers were told to us by ZoS with vague wording so I really doubt it's a real number. If devs don't word it "unique player accounts", don't even bother with the numbers. The way I see it is, count the players on one platform, round it up, and multiply it by the number of platforms that game is on. That's a generous estimate that does not give you 19 million players.

It’s 19 Million Lifetime Players. So over the course of the last several years 19 million unique accounts with emails have been set up and used.

For comparison total lifetime sales of GTA Vice City across all platforms is at 20 million. Skyrim sits at 30 million across all platforms. Super Mario Bros is at 58 million. GTA V is 150 million across all platforms. Minecraft at 238 million.

Many sites say it's not 19 million and Google trends says other games with less players have about 2x more searches done about them.
Show me the exact quote. I'm trying to find it myself. It's in their best interest to be vague and/or to lie. Sure, it's in the best interest of others to do the same against the game to bump up their own or make this one look small, so then I fall back to doing your own research and coming up with estimates which still don't add up to 19 million.

mocap wrote: »

@myskyrim26
Jesus Christ... Dude, no one is talking about harder overland for ALL players. They talk about some PERSONAL (P.E.R.S.O.N.A.L.) stuff to debuf themselves so they don't need to go naked, respec CP and other thing to roleplay harder overland.

It could be even a new crafted set with something like:
(2 items) Enemies dealing 50% more damage
(3 items) You dealing 50% less damage
(4 items) Decrease health, magicka and stamina regen by 100%
(5 items) While in combat you have 10% chance to summon ganker that insta kill you lol

I truly believe they should just add a PvP toggle to the overworld so we can fight other people with PvP toggle on and players with PvP toggle on take more damage from every mob.

I had to take a break from ESO because of VR leveled zones. I didn't manage to complete a Cadwell's Silver quest until 1T released and I don't want to return to that period of having leveled zones in ESO at all.

Dragonredux wrote: »

While i don't agree with making every mob harder. I just want harder bosses.

My preference is the same.

However, we should get what we want as an OPTIONAL TOGGLE, not as a change that is imposed on EVERYBODY.

Chaos2088 wrote: »

UMMM if there could be a toggle for people then that would be great. Everyone could be happy then.

And it should be an easy toggle ...

... although the new armory system makes the gear set idea at least somewhat worth considering.

Maybe there could be gear whose bonus nerfs you greatly but improves your XP gain and/or drops.

Hallothiel wrote: »

I like harder stuff. Sometimes. When I choose.

Have suggested previously that the last Big Bads on questlines should be instanced, and then a vet option could be introduced relatively easily.

But I would prefer the devs to use their time & resources* to do other more important things in the game that create either a toggle or a whole different vet overland. But then I am fine with overland as it is & prefer not to have ‘epic’ battles with mudcrabs & wolves every 5 yards when trolloping around Tamriel.

And just wanted to say to the posters above who have said that they would want vet to have better rewards - at least you are being honest! Unlike those who shy away from saying this explicitly & go on about the need for a ‘challenge’. 😂

*that’s how it would affect other players. Diverting time & resources from other more important game areas for little return.

Lol You need to give me some serious rewards for me to enter a zone that every mudcrab has 100k health
But instanced bossfights is exactly what i want and i don't need any extra rewards for that. Being able to take big bads of the story seriously is it's own reward

Tra_Lalan wrote: »

Just make an option for vet or normal overland, like in dungeons - everyone will be satisfied. This topic cames back every week so I think it is something ZOS could work on.

I see this topic is forced by the same people who posts the same ideas few times a year. Some of them try to prove that "there are majority of people who want it", but somewhy I see the same faces all the time. Some kind of social exploit, you know, when somebody makes a photo of twenty people and underwrite it with "We are millions".

Tra_Lalan wrote: »

Im not satisfied with current overland. It is too easy and that makes it boring for me. I cant force myself to do Cadwel's gold for months now. Recently used my alt (26lvl + maybe 1000CP invested), random gear, she could solo the big balrog bosses in oblivion portals (they were supposed to be group events).

The most often mistake I see veteran players make in estimating the current overland difficulty is comparing characters, not people + characters.
If I'm a newcomer who somehow got a top-CP well built and geared character, could I run endgame content well? If not, what do you think would prevent me to do it?
Opposite, my wife went to nMA to level up her lvl3 character without CP and gear in "wear what you loot" style. Just for fun. Why is nMA so easy? Let's buff it! Should we say it to people who's not done the nMA yet?

That's why I think we can't compare veteran player experience with a lvl 1 character and a newcomer experience with the same character. Building the overland for veteran players will make it impossible for newcomers almost always, independently of character builds.

The only way to solve it I see - separating the common overland and new vet version. No switches or debuffs would help there.
But separation would be a global step back behind One-Tamriel times in social aspect of the game. And a huge amount of money for development. All this for, be honest, real minority of player base.
If I were a developer, I wouldn't do it.

AuraStorm43 wrote: »

No weaving a skill gap that you refuse to learn, its part of the game get over it

Please check the base game and chapters tutorials. They teach us the combat basics: using skill, light and heavy attack, block, interrupt, roll dodge, exploiting by heavy attack.
I'm sure, the overland mustn't require more than player can learn from ingame tutorial.

I don't agree, that weaving is a cheat. ZoS proved it is legit.
But I can't agree that weaving should be required for overland in any kind. It is advanced technic. Nobody should be forced to use it to be able to play the game.

Hi Op,

Weaving and combos in ESO:
Weaving is part of the game. Imagine it like a combo rotation that you can find in many other titles.
Light attacks alone do a lot of damage and when you start making smaller combos you'll see a big difference in your burst (It doesn't have to be a 'full' rotation, you can make 4 skill combos of your choice (Ultimate included).
I'll also confirm like some others said above; It isn't cheating nor is it shunned upon by our producer. Imagine it more like a metronome ticking away, musicians use it for their tempo and eso combat has that similarity. Give it a whirl!

Concerning Craglorn:
I did it with guild mates when it first came out and we had no champion points and limited sets. It was harder but more rewarding/amusing with friends. Some people I had guilded back then were trying to do some elements by themselves and had a wonderful time sending us screenshots of their 'solo' adventures. Things have to be at a certain level of difficulty so that various profiles of players can find some sort of amusement, be it singular or shared with others

Overland:
Some overland bosses can be harder than others, but mobs don't generally create an issue for me.
If incoming damage is a problem, I'd suggest some adjustments in these areas: Monster set (defensive), set (max stats) and/or perhaps a companion? (Zos did introduce those to help out I imagine).

Dont forget the power of Rolly Polly!

Goodluck!

moo_2021 wrote: »

DinoZavr wrote: »

@myskyrim26,
no offense, but posting a screenshot with a character having 5 bow skills on a frontbar with little HP left is not much to convincing for me.
Why not to slot Vigor on a frontbar? Why quickslotted Tri-Stats are not on a cooldown?
Health goes low, use self-heal, use health pot, step out of AoE.

My first character was just like that and my second is still a useless cripple after I learned light weaving.

For us skyrim players, there is no guide from the game itself. The tutorials don't go past beyond basic controls and the build advisor is either *** or malicious. There is no mention of buffing or optimizing sustain or that sort of things.

When is the last time anyone played a single player RPG which doesn't guide players everything they need to know, at least for the main contents?

PS: also lots of people rely on uesp build editor and combat metrics, which do not even exist in the game itself.

I have voiced out about the lack of 'game play' tutorials in the game. Our producer relies on the community to spread build awareness and I reckon a lot of games do that too (My first MMO here).

Here's a link to weaving: (You can also find various builds on his website, I'd even say it's one of the most generalized and informative websites concerning ESO out there. He's done a ton of work and it's accessible to all)

https://alcasthq.com/eso-weaving-beginner-guide-animation-canceling/

This thread is wild. I assumed OP was being sarcastic. Overland imps are too OP lmao
But everyone else seems to be taking him seriously, so maybe he's serious, idk