Alts and spending points on crafting

Narvuntien · October 2021

I made the mistake of having crafting on different characters when I started. I eventually also bothered to research and level up all the crafts on my main.
Atm, I have jewellery crafting on two characters and do the daily writs because I want more platings. I also level alchemy for medicinal use on all my trials characters.

I can't imagine doing writs on all my characters it is just too much of a time suck I want to actually play the game.

ShawnLaRock · October 2021

I like one “main” crafter - but do writs on all characters, and pass down every intricate item, white glyph, and recipes to each alt character in order.

I make all provisioning / alchemy on my main, but after everyone has each recipe learned from each level that drop from writ rewards - I bump everyone up at the same time - so I only ever have 18 provisioning item stacks, and 4 alchemy stacks for them to turn in each day.

S.

jad11mumbler · October 2021

so my question for others, is it worth the time investment to do it to other alts as well?? effecttively making multiple "grand master" crafters???

100% Yes. Can change traits on those characters without swapping, or upgrade armour on them.
Daily writs rake in gold and more gold mats then you can ever use too.

Currently I have 36 maxed out crafter characters.

bridgetrose · October 2021

jad11mumbler wrote: »

so my question for others, is it worth the time investment to do it to other alts as well?? effecttively making multiple "grand master" crafters???

100% Yes. Can change traits on those characters without swapping, or upgrade armour on them.
Daily writs rake in gold and more gold mats then you can ever use too.

Currently I have 36 maxed out crafter characters.

18 on the NA server and 18 on the EU server?

Shanrocks1 · October 2021

bridgetrose wrote: »

jad11mumbler wrote: »

so my question for others, is it worth the time investment to do it to other alts as well?? effecttively making multiple "grand master" crafters???

100% Yes. Can change traits on those characters without swapping, or upgrade armour on them.
Daily writs rake in gold and more gold mats then you can ever use too.

Currently I have 36 maxed out crafter characters.

18 on the NA server and 18 on the EU server?

Most likely its a second account as some people like myself have a second accounts for writs..

runa_gate wrote: »

18 characters maxed in all crafting skills and traits makes you rich. It absolutely is worth is. Quests isn't an especially good way to get skill points, though.

Get Urich's Skill Point Finder addon and map it to a shortcut and you can see where various alts can get skillpoints easily.

I must have accidentally reset lazy writ's history a couple months back, but you can see from just 132 days the rewards are considerable. Note that "total known motifs" does not boost the writ voucher reward for the best master writs to be worth worrying about.

Because every character also chooses the alchemy mat option from Remains-Silent from the Shadowy Supplier passive every day as well, I basically never have to buy materials to do this every day. Every once in a while I'll have to buy platinum ounces or ancestor silk. It's a miniscule percent of what's gained. It's absolutely worth it. I sell stacks of 200 gold tempers once a month or more, give anyone I know full gold gear whenever they ask. I randomly hand 100k gold to people with cool outfits or a million to starting players to get houses or whatever they want. It's a grind to do it every day but easier for me than for my entire guild having to grind things in some slow inefficient way. And I bury them in Intricates to get their crafting levels up, too.

Kinda did some math and with today's prices, the amount of gold worth of all your gold mats are roughly 80-85 mill. Where is the rest 200 mill estimate coming from?

LiteEmUp · October 2021

so right now leveling enchanting and jewelry are the slowest for me... jewelry leveling is fine as is for me, due to low prices of jewelry master writs and as long as i can do daily writs for it... enchanting on the other hand feels so slow...

only my main has lvl 50 and next highest on an alt is level 22.. i've been funneling all glyphs i find from drops and rewards from writs to that alt, and it still feels so slow.. yes mostly it is white and green glyphs, with the occasional blue/purple glyphs...

so is there a "good" method for powerleveling glyphs??? is it better/cost-efficient to use another low level alt to craft low level glyphs and transfer(via bank) to that alt to deconstruct???

oldbobdude · October 2021

Shanrocks1 wrote: »

bridgetrose wrote: »

jad11mumbler wrote: »

so my question for others, is it worth the time investment to do it to other alts as well?? effecttively making multiple "grand master" crafters???

100% Yes. Can change traits on those characters without swapping, or upgrade armour on them.
Daily writs rake in gold and more gold mats then you can ever use too.

Currently I have 36 maxed out crafter characters.

18 on the NA server and 18 on the EU server?

Most likely its a second account as some people like myself have a second accounts for writs..

runa_gate wrote: »

18 characters maxed in all crafting skills and traits makes you rich. It absolutely is worth is. Quests isn't an especially good way to get skill points, though.

Get Urich's Skill Point Finder addon and map it to a shortcut and you can see where various alts can get skillpoints easily.

I must have accidentally reset lazy writ's history a couple months back, but you can see from just 132 days the rewards are considerable. Note that "total known motifs" does not boost the writ voucher reward for the best master writs to be worth worrying about.

Because every character also chooses the alchemy mat option from Remains-Silent from the Shadowy Supplier passive every day as well, I basically never have to buy materials to do this every day. Every once in a while I'll have to buy platinum ounces or ancestor silk. It's a miniscule percent of what's gained. It's absolutely worth it. I sell stacks of 200 gold tempers once a month or more, give anyone I know full gold gear whenever they ask. I randomly hand 100k gold to people with cool outfits or a million to starting players to get houses or whatever they want. It's a grind to do it every day but easier for me than for my entire guild having to grind things in some slow inefficient way. And I bury them in Intricates to get their crafting levels up, too.

Kinda did some math and with today's prices, the amount of gold worth of all your gold mats are roughly 80-85 mill. Where is the rest 200 mill estimate coming from?

I think the 200 number just refers to the stack size not a selling price of 200mil

xgoku1 · October 2021

From my /writstats I estimate I make around 15000-20000 gold per day per character if I sold the Gold materials. Max level crafting is pretty crazy

hrothbern · October 2021

runa_gate wrote: »

18 characters maxed in all crafting skills and traits makes you rich. It absolutely is worth is. Quests isn't an especially good way to get skill points, though.

Get Urich's Skill Point Finder addon and map it to a shortcut and you can see where various alts can get skillpoints easily.

I must have accidentally reset lazy writ's history a couple months back, but you can see from just 132 days the rewards are considerable. Note that "total known motifs" does not boost the writ voucher reward for the best master writs to be worth worrying about.

Because every character also chooses the alchemy mat option from Remains-Silent from the Shadowy Supplier passive every day as well, I basically never have to buy materials to do this every day. Every once in a while I'll have to buy platinum ounces or ancestor silk. It's a miniscule percent of what's gained. It's absolutely worth it. I sell stacks of 200 gold tempers once a month or more, give anyone I know full gold gear whenever they ask. I randomly hand 100k gold to people with cool outfits or a million to starting players to get houses or whatever they want. It's a grind to do it every day but easier for me than for my entire guild having to grind things in some slow inefficient way. And I bury them in Intricates to get their crafting levels up, too.

How do you enable or see this lazy-writ history ?

Gundug · October 2021

One benefit of having as many maximum level crafters doing daily crafting writs that I didn’t notice mentioned is that they have a chance to drop master writs, which provide the best time to XP ratio of any activity in the game.

Karivaa · October 2021

MTibbs89 wrote: »

I try to at least level Alchemy and Provisioning for all my toons, since those two have some nice passives that are useful for everyone (medicinal use, connoisseur, and gourmand). It's also worthwhile to invest in crafting on some level for all toons to improve your rewards for crafting writs.

Do you also do all of the surveys? It takes so much time to do those!

bridgetrose · October 2021

Karivaa wrote: »

MTibbs89 wrote: »

I try to at least level Alchemy and Provisioning for all my toons, since those two have some nice passives that are useful for everyone (medicinal use, connoisseur, and gourmand). It's also worthwhile to invest in crafting on some level for all toons to improve your rewards for crafting writs.

Do you also do all of the surveys? It takes so much time to do those!

I'm still working up to all of this but as far as survey's go, I broke up the zones into 4 or 5 a day. I do survey's in each zone for that day and while I'm in that zone I visit all the guild traders to see if I can pick up recipes/motifs that I still need. This way it's not a so much of a grind. Also If there are delves in one of the zones I haven't done I work on those so there isn't a lot of jumping around for only one thing. Try and combine activities. I have a fair amount of time but even I like to have things consolidated.

bridgetrose · October 2021

vgabor wrote: »

LiteEmUp wrote: »

so my question for others, is it worth the time investment to do it to other alts as well?? effecttively making multiple "grand master" crafters???

for my alts, i simply play them for doing dungeons/trials/cyro...

Trait research is up to you, I actually tend to do them apart from nirn on alts too, so they can transmute/recreate items they need. It doesn't take anything but a bit of banks space and a login on the alts for a minute when they finish one research and need to start the next. On my master crafter who has all the traits already researched I create 20-30 lvl 1 items for the traits I want to research on alts, drop them into into the bank, and after the alts used them all for research I create and drop the next bunch again into the bank.

This is such a good idea. I'm having trouble picking up the staffs I need with particular traits and my characters aren't working and that makes everything take longer. Tonight I looked to see what everyone needed to fill out there 3 slots and made them myself. Works great.

LannStone · October 2021

Karivaa wrote: »

MTibbs89 wrote: »

I try to at least level Alchemy and Provisioning for all my toons, since those two have some nice passives that are useful for everyone (medicinal use, connoisseur, and gourmand). It's also worthwhile to invest in crafting on some level for all toons to improve your rewards for crafting writs.

Do you also do all of the surveys? It takes so much time to do those!

Surveys do take a couple hours a couple times a week from my 18 characters that turn in writs - but surveys are really where the money is - from deconstructing those materials - especially jewelry and clothing - I make far more gold from the surveys than from the daily writs themselves - as far as time, it helps to do the surveys on a character that knows all the wayshrines on each zone

vgabor · October 2021

LannStone wrote: »

Karivaa wrote: »

MTibbs89 wrote: »

I try to at least level Alchemy and Provisioning for all my toons, since those two have some nice passives that are useful for everyone (medicinal use, connoisseur, and gourmand). It's also worthwhile to invest in crafting on some level for all toons to improve your rewards for crafting writs.

Do you also do all of the surveys? It takes so much time to do those!

Surveys do take a couple hours a couple times a week from my 18 characters that turn in writs - but surveys are really where the money is - from deconstructing those materials - especially jewelry and clothing - I make far more gold from the surveys than from the daily writs themselves - as far as time, it helps to do the surveys on a character that knows all the wayshrines on each zone

I personally throw all surveys into the bank from all alts and when I have more than one for most of them I'll grab all with my main crafter who has all wayshrines and go around doing them. Takes a considerable amount of free bank space and time to do them all at once, but I found this to be the most efficient way on the long run.