I have 1 character that is a main crafter, my other characters specialize in an RP related craft, and some of them I will level up the first skill in case I want to do writs and the decon skill so I can get better mat return.

I have 3 max crafters. One is the main crafter that learns all the recipes, etc. Two of them are characters I play the most and its nice not to have to log out and on to the crafter to do a simple upgrade, make a potions, enchants or food/drinks.

It is very well worth it
You will not need the pricey market to upgrade your own gear, craft your own potions because you will be self sustaining
Just start some good music list or a tv show and rest is muscle memory
You don't need quest skill points, just collect the skyshards and group events from public dungeons

It is worth it if you think you need more gold, mats and enjoy crafting. There's no doubt it is a profitable activity, but I only have one crafter, and only two characters. I don't log in simply to do writs every day as that doesn't appeal to me. I do them when I feel like it.

I just have 1 dedicated crafter and I'm not planning to make any of my other characters crafters. There's a few reasons for that but they're all specific to me and may not apply to anyone else.

The big one is that my free time is limited and if I tried to do daily writs on every character every day I could easily end up with days when I don't do anything else. (Yes I know how quick they are, but I already have days when I log in, pick up mail, turn in an IC quest and do a Wrothgar quest for event tickets, do 3 endeavours, refill my guild store and log out because I've run out of time to play.)

I also like to take my time when I'm playing, especially when I'm doing quests and exploring so I often have to log off when I'm in the middle of a delve or public dungeon, or just out in the middle of nowhere. It would be annoying to keep pulling my characters back to towns to craft, but it seems pointless to train the skills up if I'm not using them.

It seems pointless to unlock all the motifs on all my characters when 1 can craft everything they need, but without motifs they're definitely limited to only being useful for daily writs. Also motifs are already my biggest expense so training up more crafters to get more gold only to spend more gold on motifs seems like a vicious circle.

Finally (unless I've forgotten some things) I usually don't have ESO+ and part of the way I manage inventory and bank space is to put blacksmithing, clothier, woodworking and jeweller materials into my crafter's inventory. If I was doing writs on all my characters I'd have to share at least the top tier ones.

Overall for me the extra gold it could bring in isn't worth the time and other hassle involved in crafting on multiple characters, so it makes more sense to just stick to 1.

Do daily writs on 14 chars, it's worth it for me at least. It's a time investment initially, but once it's done it does pay off. I don't quest on my alts tho, all points are from skyshards and public dungeon group events.
I also geared all of them for pvp to farm transmute crystals, that is a ton of extra skyshards collected gor that tho. It helps you find it collecting the shards relaxing like I do, otherwise I suspect the grind might be brutal.

18 characters maxed in all crafting skills and traits makes you rich. It absolutely is worth is. Quests isn't an especially good way to get skill points, though.

Get Urich's Skill Point Finder addon and map it to a shortcut and you can see where various alts can get skillpoints easily.

I must have accidentally reset lazy writ's history a couple months back, but you can see from just 132 days the rewards are considerable. Note that "total known motifs" does not boost the writ voucher reward for the best master writs to be worth worrying about.





Because every character also chooses the alchemy mat option from Remains-Silent from the Shadowy Supplier passive every day as well, I basically never have to buy materials to do this every day. Every once in a while I'll have to buy platinum ounces or ancestor silk. It's a miniscule percent of what's gained. It's absolutely worth it. I sell stacks of 200 gold tempers once a month or more, give anyone I know full gold gear whenever they ask. I randomly hand 100k gold to people with cool outfits or a million to starting players to get houses or whatever they want. It's a grind to do it every day but easier for me than for my entire guild having to grind things in some slow inefficient way. And I bury them in Intricates to get their crafting levels up, too.

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No, and yes. Making multiple grand master crafters is hard, and you probably won't want to. As that would require you to learn all the motifs on all the characters. And it would require you to figure out which character can make which master writs. Better to keep this all on one character.

But yes, it is profitable. When you have fully skilled crafters, you get master writs, grand repair kits(money savers!), and many upgrade materials. With maxed research you can get golden items from the daily quests, and the daily supply mails from hirelings for that craft. Including chromium platings from jewelry crafting daily quests. But those are very rare still, like twice a month tops for me.

You probably won't be able to maintain doing craftingdailies without buying supplies. I always run out of platinum , oko runes, and corn flower. So about 20-25% of the gold income goes towards buying supplies. Yet due to all the extra's you receive from crafting dailies, the time spend on maxing their tradeskills is well worth it.

In short: So "no" making multiple grandmaster crafters is not worth it. But "yes" fully skilling the tradeskills on your alts, is worth it.

PS: I do dailies on 18 characters per day, and only 8 are fully skilled crafters(so far). I am in the process of making all my characters fully skilled crafters, but it is very slow as I do so by 100% completing zones. (but it is fun to see the rewards from the crafting dailies grow each day, and it is a nice leveling incentive)
PPS: With fully skilled I mean provisioning, enchanting, alchemy, clothing, woodworking, blacksmithing, and the jewelry crafting skillines all filled completely.

thanks everyone for the insights... your comments convinced me to make all my alts fully skilled crafters for those master writs and weekly 50k+ gold income..

so one other question, do you guys care on what price mats are being sold by traders if your trying to stock up mats??? i usually use ttc's price suggestion when determining if its worth buying or not..

I would say that levelling alchemy is definitely worth it for two reasons: first you need the medicinal use passive, and second if you do max level writs, they don't require corn flower as the second objective, and also it's better to make a batch of the same potions that all your toons can use for writs, rather than different pots for different writ tiers. I generally mostly do writs on my main, but I do have alchemy levelled on all toons in case I do writs with them, and then I have clothing/woodworking/blacksmithing levelled on just a couple, so if I run low on gold mats, I can do max level writs with them. If you do have the time to do writs on alts though and they have the points to spare, then it's better to have the passives for max crafting on them, because it's a pity to miss on the gold mats rewarded.

Personally, I have a 'main' crafter with everything, a couple semi-main alts who have a couple skills with major points invested, and then everyone else (and the other skills on the semi-mains) have lv1 so they can do writs. Along with a few of the "resource spotter" perks.

I got 18 crafters all of them are:
all crafts maxed
all crafts at full points
out except provisioning due to the recipes drop
(that is minimum skillpoints spent on crafting is 115)
all traits learned
all alchemy ingredients known
all runes known

1 of them is a Grand master Crafter
knowing all recipes but 2 expensive war tortes
knowing most furnishing recipes (37 still missing)
knowing all but 2 of the newest motifs

2 more are Grand Master Crafters

15 more ar on their way to get Grand Master Crafters
but are still short of 12 motifs


Is it worth it - I don't know
but its my personal goal of the game


But if you are doing writs you should max out the
clothing, blacksmithing, woodworking and jewelry skills
and invest all skillpoints - to recieve the gold mats