I requested it in the general crownstore wishlist sticky thread of this forum. And I'm actually kinda sad because I've been grinding endeavors and I can afford the bow in a few more days--

But now I'm worried they'll release one of the other things I asked for, but for like 16,000 seals--and I won't be able to buy it. I'd rather just pay 5,000 crowns for one of the mounts I was looking for:

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/dark-opaline-steed/

I'd pay maybe 4,000 crowns for that gloomspore Gaur, but they keep losing money from me by hiding them behind crates \o/

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Syrpynt wrote: »

I requested it in the general crownstore wishlist sticky thread of this forum. And I'm actually kinda sad because I've been grinding endeavors and I can afford the bow in a few more days--

But now I'm worried they'll release one of the other things I asked for, but for like 16,000 seals--and I won't be able to buy it. I'd rather just pay 5,000 crowns for one of the mounts I was looking for:

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/dark-opaline-steed/

I'd pay maybe 4,000 crowns for that gloomspore Gaur, but they keep losing money from me by hiding them behind crates \o/

The Dark Opaline Steed was a Radiant Apex Mount, so if they brought it back (Along with the Frost Atronach Crates it comes from), it would indeed cost 16,000 Seals or 1,600 Gems (it's the "medium" rarity Radiant Apex from those Crates).

They're not going to change that. They want you to buy crates. They make more money from folks that buy Crates than they lose from those that don't.

Your "threats" of not buying would fall completely on deaf ears.

You're probably right, but they can't quite have a game completely funded by whales. I think they underestimate their playerbase. This game also charges far more for aesthetics than most MMO's. Not arguing against your point, but I don't think they've done the actual math because they've never released "Apex mounts" for direct purchase in yearssss. So they don't even have current population research data!

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And I may actually give up the gloomspore bow to wait for 1 of the 2 to 3 apex mounts I actually liked since crates released. If they want more money from me and others, they'll offer direct purchases for items that were/are crate releases from over 2 years ago.

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NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Syrpynt wrote: »

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Syrpynt wrote: »

I requested it in the general crownstore wishlist sticky thread of this forum. And I'm actually kinda sad because I've been grinding endeavors and I can afford the bow in a few more days--

But now I'm worried they'll release one of the other things I asked for, but for like 16,000 seals--and I won't be able to buy it. I'd rather just pay 5,000 crowns for one of the mounts I was looking for:

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/dark-opaline-steed/

I'd pay maybe 4,000 crowns for that gloomspore Gaur, but they keep losing money from me by hiding them behind crates \o/

The Dark Opaline Steed was a Radiant Apex Mount, so if they brought it back (Along with the Frost Atronach Crates it comes from), it would indeed cost 16,000 Seals or 1,600 Gems (it's the "medium" rarity Radiant Apex from those Crates).

They're not going to change that. They want you to buy crates. They make more money from folks that buy Crates than they lose from those that don't.

Your "threats" of not buying would fall completely on deaf ears.

You're probably right, but they can't quite have a game completely funded by whales. I think they underestimate their playerbase. This game also charges far more for aesthetics than most MMO's. Not arguing against your point, but I don't think they've done the actual math because they've never released "Apex mounts" for direct purchase in yearssss. So they don't even have current population research data!

[snip]

And I may actually give up the gloomspore bow to wait for 1 of the 2 to 3 apex mounts I actually liked since crates released. If they want more money from me and others, they'll offer direct purchases for items that were/are crate releases from over 2 years ago.

We have never been able to directly purchase apex mounts, less so radiant ones. Only recently do we have the option to buy them for gems and now also seals of endeavours.

Ahh yes. "Radiant", "Apex"--all the same to me. Does the bear or wolf have a special effect glow and animation? Apex. So I consider my Flaming Senche and Red-Eyed Wolf to be Radiant/Apex or whatever.

Either way, we used to be able to purchase those types of mounts, then they were shoved behind a secondary paywall that caters to players who literally 'spend' their life on ESO, rather than the majority of casuals who can easily afford these costumes/emotes/outfits/mounts/pets for direct buy. To sum it up.

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Syrpynt wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

Syrpynt wrote: »

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Syrpynt wrote: »

I requested it in the general crownstore wishlist sticky thread of this forum. And I'm actually kinda sad because I've been grinding endeavors and I can afford the bow in a few more days--

But now I'm worried they'll release one of the other things I asked for, but for like 16,000 seals--and I won't be able to buy it. I'd rather just pay 5,000 crowns for one of the mounts I was looking for:

https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/dark-opaline-steed/

I'd pay maybe 4,000 crowns for that gloomspore Gaur, but they keep losing money from me by hiding them behind crates \o/

The Dark Opaline Steed was a Radiant Apex Mount, so if they brought it back (Along with the Frost Atronach Crates it comes from), it would indeed cost 16,000 Seals or 1,600 Gems (it's the "medium" rarity Radiant Apex from those Crates).

They're not going to change that. They want you to buy crates. They make more money from folks that buy Crates than they lose from those that don't.

Your "threats" of not buying would fall completely on deaf ears.

You're probably right, but they can't quite have a game completely funded by whales. I think they underestimate their playerbase. This game also charges far more for aesthetics than most MMO's. Not arguing against your point, but I don't think they've done the actual math because they've never released "Apex mounts" for direct purchase in yearssss. So they don't even have current population research data!

[snip]

And I may actually give up the gloomspore bow to wait for 1 of the 2 to 3 apex mounts I actually liked since crates released. If they want more money from me and others, they'll offer direct purchases for items that were/are crate releases from over 2 years ago.

We have never been able to directly purchase apex mounts, less so radiant ones. Only recently do we have the option to buy them for gems and now also seals of endeavours.

Ahh yes. "Radiant", "Apex"--all the same to me. Does the bear or wolf have a special effect glow and animation? Apex. So I consider my Flaming Senche and Red-Eyed Wolf to be Radiant/Apex or whatever.

Either way, we used to be able to purchase those types of mounts, then they were shoved behind a secondary paywall that caters to players who literally 'spend' their life on ESO, rather than the majority of casuals who can easily afford these costumes/emotes/outfits/mounts/pets for direct buy. To sum it up.

Just because you have your own idea of a definition doesn't change historical facts. We have NEVER been able to buy Apex Mounts, Radiant or otherwise, outside of using Crown Gems or Seals.

And not all Apex Mounts have a glow effect to them. The mounts from Dwarven, Hollowjack, Xanmeer, Dragonscale, Baandari, Frost Atronach, Nightfall, Akaviri, Ayleid, and the upcoming Grim Harlequin Crates all lack a glow effect outside of temporary activation like rearing up or roaring.

The "defining" aspect of a mount being Apex is it visually being a thematic match for it's Crate. And that it can ONLY be found in a Crate. Nothing else.

The Doom Wolf, for example is not Apex, because it didn't come from a "Doom" Crate. It can glow and have all the particle effects in the world. But facts are facts.

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