Yeah. It's impossible to avoid at times, even when you are outside of the range. There is also some other problem where some combination of effects are causing all abilities - skills, rolling, blocking, breaking free, bar swapping, and even moving to become completely disabled until the effect ends (usually with you dead).

It's beyond frustrating to the point that I guess I'll have to go back to the almost-always-dead no-cp. What a shame, for the first time ever I was enjoying all those Cheese Pizza Points

That's all fine and well, if block works. I find that at least 50% of the time ALL abilities, INCLUDING block and movement are completely disabled until the effect of the sets ends.

DucLIX wrote: »

I've never been desync'ed by this set, and yo ucan counter it, just block, you'll not get grabbed. Pay attention at what happens around you and if you're fast enough you'll manage to block, that's personal for the lag/desync but for the counter it applies for everyone.

I guess it depends where you are fighting on how many--BGs this set is not so bad, Open Word--I have been ping ponged by this set, because we fight outnumbered, and everyone else uses it--i have litterrally been put into a pull loop, and desynced so bad from it that nothing works. I have excellent Ping, gig internet with amazing up speed, and a system that most people would die for. I am the person that doesn't lag when everyone else is.

As someone else said, its like the game isn't sure what to do with the character, esp when more than one person is using it, and other CCs are imvolved.

L_Nici wrote: »

The Set Dark Convergence needs to be investigated.. Not because of its damage...

Oh really?

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

L_Nici wrote: »

The Set Dark Convergence needs to be investigated.. Not because of its damage...

Oh really?

To whomever ordered a one button click win set. Well here is your order.

Dark Convergence is a good idea in theory but horrible in implementation. The damage scaling is flat out broken to be hitting solo players that high, and there should be no CC, much less a CC that bypasses normal CC rules. Seriously whoever had the idea for the CC, your idea sucks and you should feel bad. A CC attached to a massive bomb is bad enough, but you made it a pull of all things???

Great anti-stacking mechanic right there when a group can use this to bomb solos/groups they greatly outnumber.

when we get tired of being desynched and bounced around, maybe we can load in as the enemy and purge everyone while we boost resists for our new friends. Sounds fun

Sheuib wrote: »

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

L_Nici wrote: »

The Set Dark Convergence needs to be investigated.. Not because of its damage...

Oh really?

I think you need to add some context to this. I mean I have not been hit anywhere near this amount when I have been hit solo. So, I would have to assuming that you were in a large group when this number hit you.

I like the idea of scaling on the number of players in the area. And, the area is only a 3 meter radius. So, to get large numbers like this you're talking a lot of people in a 3 meter radius. Where you in a ball group? If so then maybe it is working as intended.

I have been hit for this amount a couple times in BGs, when the other teams are layering their Dark Convergences--like when you are trying to capture a flag, or have the chaosball. I que into the normal BGs solo usually, where there might be premades, and often the people I end up with want to play the objective. Meanwhile we end up against premades with all 4 wearing the set. But I have also been hit for large numbers being the only person it hits--while blocking.

I really just find adding more CC to the game a very unfun mechanic.

DC & Hrothgar are both definitely overturned.

Dark Convergence has definitely way too many CC effects on top of very high "burst". Almost always this set hits harder than VD set. On top of that, it has just 1 second of activation time. That means that it is very hard to avoid & has close to no counter-play. You can not roll-dodge outside of the circle (roll-dodge animation takes longer to finish & register your new position server - side). It also ignores CC immunity. The only way is to maybe block when you see the proc, but It is not as easy to spot when there is a lot of aoes on the ground (which there always are). But then again - by blocking, you are basically "snare" yourself as while blocking, you move quite slowly. Also, as far as I can tell you can not roll-dodge while still blocking. Also there are numerous bugs, like pulling players through walls/doors or even down from walls. It is ridiculous.

While orher proc sets feel kinda like mediocre "free" skill that fire in addition to you using your normal skills, DC feels more like a "free" addition ultimate, that is how strong it is.

Hrothgar on the other hand has 3 main issues. It is bugged and it ignores Battle Spirit. Then there is the fact that this set does not scale with any of your stats (it scale with the target) - meaning that this set also ignores rule set that ZOS established regarding proc sets - that those scale with your stats. Before that we had situations in which we had tanky builds having also access to decent dmg as set scaled with "nothing" so you could use a proc set + brutality ring and have good dmg too. Hrothgar re-enables that.
The final issue is that this set has an AOE dmg, meaning that it can not be dodged and it does not really punish tanky builds (those will survive the hit). It punishes the squishy players who will stand in a proximity of a tank and take a 25k hit (what a surprise, tank gets the attention & takes dmg & protect its allies, almost as if it was designed that way).

Anyway in 8 - 9 days CP campaign ends and I am seriously thinking of switching to no-cp/no-proc. That campaign is less populated, but I guess it might change. Judging by the cyro zone chat I am not the only one frustrated with the current pvp, or rather DCvDC - because this is basically how it looks like. Every AOE on the ground has DC proc...