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The new sets in PVP, what are your thoughts?
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Colecovision✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dark convergence is a one shot when performance is bad, but super easy to roll out of if your buttons work. So I don't get it. Why add a set that make lag and desync the ultimate factor on surviving a proc. It's genuinely bad gaming.
Also adding tankiness has been lovely for me overall, but it hasn't stopped the thing where I'm not being attacked, then there is a sound of being hit, followed by the buttons freezing completely for one second, followed by a death screen with up to 6 moves completed to kill me. My favorite is when I get hit with moves that require light attack to charge. I can't even light attack the guards during prime time.
I hope they add no proc with cp. I reached level 50 in spring of 2017. Odd that the only way to get away from this is to go back that far.
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ResidentContrarian✭✭✭✭✭My opinion: not worth slotting.
Then again, I don't think any proc set is.
They are only effective against certain players and cases that aren't uniform in the open-world environment, making them a bad choice vs. a more rounded build.
Unless you are hiding in a faction stack, good luck with those sets when someone that knows how the roll and block buttons gets pulled towards you or won't explode with Hrothgar.
That said, even an entire faction stacking vs. lesser numbers failed to use the set to wipe the lesser numbered faction, so that also says a lot about the effectiveness. People are only slotting them because dark convergence pulls too far, dark convergence "continues to pull" (probably should be scrapped from set), and hrothgar does bugged damage.
That means, without being able to get the bugs to work the sets are lackluster and a liability in reality, and precisely why they aren't that effective as people think when players aren't massively outnumbering their opponents.1 -
Xandreia_✭✭✭✭✭
✭The only one I have an issue with is dark convergence, getting chased down while solo by more than 5 people wearing the set is annoying, it's supposed to target wiping big groups yet I feel solos are paying for it 😬5 -
mocap✭✭✭✭✭
✭other than super long keep sieges (deffenders spaming Dark Conv at all breaches), it's nothing exciting.0 -
Anethum✭✭✭✭i dont understand why with clear picture which Zenimax could collect during last years especially after wrobel get fired, about procsets and how to balance game no prevent them overperform stats sets, every patch i read patchnotes - new proc garbage coming again and again.
@ZOS_GinaBruno guys, do u analyse sets and mechanics performance at all? @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?@Anethum from .ua2 -
dinokstrunz✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZoS : We want to introduced interesting fun & carefully balanced new item sets
Also ZoS : here have these 3 new broken busted PvP sets that will *** of the entire PvP fanbase.
It's one thing to let an overpowered set make it to live but it's even worse to have a set that's overpowered and buggy as hell survive the PTS. Gotta do better than this ZoS. It's almost like no lessons are learnt at all anymore.5 -
sproattt✭✭✭I’ve PvPd for years and the new 3 Rewards of Worthy sets are out of this world. All you have to do is see the applications and benefits these sets offer. All 3 are cheap and easy to proc. The developers love the cheap and easy proc sets as they are easy to design and can easily be added into the game.
The first week of this new DLC/Patch may be fun, but when everyone has all there new proc sets I will be giving PvP a miss.
Mark my words, you are going to see EVERYONE in 1/2 of the new ROW sets.
Stamblade Main.4 -
Darrett✭✭✭✭The design of these sets are short sighted and nonsensical. You should never punish a player for playing an archetype like tank, particularly in PvP.
If you think there are too many tanky builds, then you should consider the reason people are building that way; player damage is too high.
Same goes for running in zergs consistently. It not only provides new players a way to get involved before they have full gold sets of the latest meta gear, but it provides protection for builds that aren’t solo-centric.
Zerg busting is fine and should be encouraged by a coordinated group. Any time a skill or gear set up exists that allows a single player to devastate a large group, it’s a mistake.
Seriously, look at DAoC next time. 8 man guilds would take out large zergs, but they had to be coordinated and tactical about it. They didn’t just send one bomber in with a proc set and rely on out of control damage output.
There’s a reason the PvP player base is dwindling, and it’s because it’s unapproachable for new players and set and skill design actively punishes mitigation to the one-shot design that seems to be at play here.5 -
Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm currently playing on NO CP Ravenswatch PC EU to avoid the new proc sets after seeing videos, comments and screenshots.
I'll wait until they are correct, thank you sir.0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I feel like the new sets exist solely to drive people to the no-proc campaign.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche6 -
etchedpixels✭✭✭✭✭
✭DC and Rush of Agony seem to be overkilll even in PVE (where you combine it with an AOE taunt set and your tank just becomes a trash magnet).
Too many toons not enough time0 -
dvonpm✭✭✭✭So. They do this every update and every update we forget.
They'll be nerfed in a few weeks. Enjoy the dumbness while it lasts. Or not.
They're obviously broken like every new meta set.
Hrothgar procs when your dog sneezes in the next room last week, dark convergence should just have the like, cheesy 60s elevator music playing while you ping pong around.
And 2 months from now no one will be them and we'll be back to stupid bomber sets.
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