There aren't enough things to buy with event tickets.

zelaminator · August 2021

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

I'm in the exact same situation: 11/12 on NA and 8/12 on EU and I have already bought the saddle mount piece, a pet rock, all 3 pieces for a new one and most of the Old Orsinium pages already. Old Orsinium weapon pages are a common enough drop that you probably won't need to buy them with tickets if you wait to the end of the event. It would have been better to put the older style pages like Maelstrom weapons and Legion Zero armor in the Impresario's inventory as well individually, or at least put them in a RNG container like they did with previous year's motifs from other events.

But as said before, it's a necessary evil so that everyone can have a chance to keep up.. and bringing in all that, plus 2 more style sets, would be much too overwhelming

If you're just after tickets for the current items, namely the mount pieces, it's relatively easy to do. It takes ~10-15 minutes per day, doing 1 IC district quest and 1 Wrothgar WB quest. The mount piece costs 10 tickets, the pet piece just 5, so you only need to spend 10-15 minutes on any 5-8 days of the event to get those. The event lasts 13 days in total. So more casual players won't be affected at all if the older pages would be available at the impresario as well. I for one will just browse guild stores at the end of the event for bargains, but my tickets will be wasted.

You assume that they only need 2 pieces, so they have days to spare.. but if they don't, they are screwed again.. and as I have said many times before, filling the impresario's store with much more loot than can be acquired, is not necessarily a good thing.. it can be a stress factor, and it can be off putting to the newer crowd.. yes, it sucks if you have tickets to spare, but you CAN use them.. people with less tickets have only one option.. crowns.. so I'm sorry, but I'd rather see an event like this favor the newer players

Edit: Quite often in my "gaming career", I see that the older crowd gets less out of it, as they've gotten many of the items already.. that's just how it is I guess.. Be glad instead, that you're up to date and have tickets saved up for next time

Asardes · August 2021

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

zelaminator · August 2021

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

Asardes · August 2021

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

zelaminator · August 2021

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

I'm saying that if the impresario presents more items than it is possible to acquire within the time limit of the event, some people can and will be stressed out by it

jsarthur_ESO · August 2021

It is very lackluster.

Jackey · August 2021

Honestly, I think it’s a nice change of pace compared to the event burnout I got from trying to collect every Indrik. (Yes I know, it's my own fault for being like that lol)

I wouldn't mind if they reintroduced some of the Indrik feathers and berries though as a side thing to buy if you're missing some from previous events.

Danikat · August 2021

I don't mind not having anything to buy with event tickets, it just means I don't worry about collecting tickets and if that's my only incentive for doing the event I skip the entire thing and do something else instead.

But it would be nice to have more options, and especially to have the ticket exclusive items (like the indrik feathers and berries) available for longer so players who missed them the first time around have another oppertunity to get them. (And if they won't have time to get all of them now they can wait, knowing they'll also be available during future events.)

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

I'm saying that if the impresario presents more items than it is possible to acquire within the time limit of the event, some people can and will be stressed out by it

Is that still the case if they can get those items by another method? If it's outfit styles for example which can also come from drops or can be bought from guild traders. If you want all of them you don't have to get them all with event tickets, you can use gold to buy them from guild traders instead (even after the event has ended) so there's no reason to worry about not having enough event tickets for every single one.

But if someone has spare event tickets and nothing else to buy they can then choose to use tickets instead of gold to get the outfit styles.

It seems like a good system for everyone, because then players who want to get everything can even if they don't have enough event tickets and players who don't want the ticket-exclusive items still have something to buy with them.

Lady_Galadhiel · August 2021

bruta wrote: »

Thannazzar wrote: »

Next event is Blackwood only so make sure you save 10 tickets for your final Quasigriff piece if you don't own the latest chapter

had no clue about this, did they announce this on twitch or something ?

The Blackwood event was on PTS a few weeks ago.

zelaminator · August 2021

Danikat wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

I'm saying that if the impresario presents more items than it is possible to acquire within the time limit of the event, some people can and will be stressed out by it

Is that still the case if they can get those items by another method? If it's outfit styles for example which can also come from drops or can be bought from guild traders. If you want all of them you don't have to get them all with event tickets, you can use gold to buy them from guild traders instead (even after the event has ended) so there's no reason to worry about not having enough event tickets for every single one.

But if someone has spare event tickets and nothing else to buy they can then choose to use tickets instead of gold to get the outfit styles.

It seems like a good system for everyone, because then players who want to get everything can even if they don't have enough event tickets and players who don't want the ticket-exclusive items still have something to buy with them.

But they DO have something to spend their tickets on.. and yes, it helps to be able to use gold, but it's still a psychological(can't remember the spelling) thing

Asardes · August 2021

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

I'm saying that if the impresario presents more items than it is possible to acquire within the time limit of the event, some people can and will be stressed out by it

Well right now people are spamming chat with WTT/WTB/WTS x, y, z style page. When you click on the chat link it shows whether it's collected or not, so people are aware anyway there are additional motifs to be collected than what they already got, or what they saw at the Impresario.

Also a clear example about impresario purchases crowding out transferrable drops like style pages or rune boxes. The Soul Shriven Skin which is a very rare drop from defeating Molag Bal in the Imperial Sewers, is usually going for 500k or more (I've seen some bought for 2m), when the event is not on. During the event the price drops to maybe half, because of the double drop chance from that boss. A couple of years ago that skin was available from the impresario for 5 tickets. The prices on guild stores dropped to something like 50k.

magnusthorek · August 2021

ShawnLaRock wrote: »

Why can’t we have a bunch of past outfit styles to buy (specifically Jade Crown Dragonslayer), or at least furnishings that have been available in the past? I would buy limitless mirrors, pergolas, and Shrines Of The Bay - but instead, I am throwing tickets away on Group Repair Kits I’ll never use.

That would be awesome. Give The Impresario another tab with (some) past items (to not devalue outfit pages in the market) or, even better, have her hire a second assistant just for that (maybe one with a shy personality saying something like "I know I'm new, but I've already been tasked a big deal, Adventurer. I can offer you relics from previous events" — or something like that)

JoDiMageio · August 2021

Trinket61 wrote: »

There is another problem - incomplete sets because the end item has been withdrawn.

I have 2/3 of a number of Indriks simply because they were withdrawn and/or replaced by different colors.
I will not be able to complete the current mount because afaik one of the tokens i need has been withdrawn from sale.

I do not understand why the menu is so limited. It can't be that hard to include past content can it?

There have only been 2 pieces of the mount released, and both are available this event.

As to you question, I agree that it's the FOMO at work. If people knew they could pick up any piece, any time, they wouldn't feel the pressure to participate in events and the game might not get the numbers they are hoping for during it.

EF321 · August 2021

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

I'm saying that if the impresario presents more items than it is possible to acquire within the time limit of the event, some people can and will be stressed out by it

Uhm, these pages drop from purple coffers which you can acquire in unlimited qualities.

Gythral · August 2021

Seems ZOS sorted this by halving the available tickets on PC-EU, no Cyrodill/IC at present!

Veinblood1965 · August 2021

Greensea wrote: »

I'm sat here with 10/12 tickets and the only thing left to buy is group repair kits. It's been like this for the last few events and wanes my interest in them once I hit 12/12. I'm sure previous events used to have more purchasable options, such as the Indrik pets that were only available for event tickets.

I understand if you're a new or returning player then this won't be the case as you'll have some catching up to do, but if you're a regular and routinely play during events then the Impresario has become rather underwhelming.

I had that exact same issue last time. Ended up buying group repair kits, same issue this time also. Seriously? Motifs and one pet option? So much going on during these events and the options of what to by are lame at best. I was considering just starting skipping the entire event.

Asardes · August 2021

Well there's also the other option: if you got everything and full number of tickets you can just skip the event. In fact time is the most precious option in this game, and saving time is always a good thing. Shaving off 15 minutes every day is quite something if you add that up for the remainder of the duration.

etchedpixels · August 2021

Wait until the end of the event, by then if it's like most events the guild banks and markets will be awash with spares.

The first one you get is always new, the second only is almost always not a duplicate, by the time you've opened 10 coffers the duplicate count is rising fast - the number of spare motifs basically grows exponentially by day of the event.

zelaminator · August 2021

EF321 wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

zelaminator wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

There is no additional stress by having older items at the impresario. On the contrary, being able to buy older stuff with tickets actually reduces the price of equivalent drops on the guild stores for all players.

For example let's say I'm missing Legion Zero legs, which still drops from chests, albeit less often. If I don't get it myself by the end of the event, I will go and purchase it off those guild stores, and the price will be let's say 20k.

If I can instead get it for the tickets I wouldn't be able to use, and other players in the situation can too, the demand for it will decrease, and hence the price. This is actually better for the newer or casual player, since instead of paying 20k he will be paying way less, maybe 5k for it.

Saying that it is not stressful may be true to you.. but to other people it is

So you're saying grinding 20k is less stressful than grinding 5k? I don't really get your logic.

I'm saying that if the impresario presents more items than it is possible to acquire within the time limit of the event, some people can and will be stressed out by it

Uhm, these pages drop from purple coffers which you can acquire in unlimited qualities.

Yes, but I responded to the suggestion of bringing 2 more style sets into the impresario store..

Awnia · August 2021

Asardes wrote: »

Sheridan wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Old Orsinium weapon pages are a common enough drop

Got 2 so far. They would be a common enough drop if ZOS made them a guaranteed one from the gold boxes.

From what I've seen the gold box, for the first quest of the day, has indeed a guaranteed drop for a style page from one of the 3 collections available, and Old Orsinium weapons drop way more than the other 2 in general, including the subsequent purple coffers. I got lucky on NA on Thursday and got a Legion 0 Cuirass, which I sold for 750k straight away. It still is 100-150k, while the new pages dropped in price to 10k or less. They will be probably available on guild traders for 2-5k by the end of the event.

It does NOT always contain one. I got literally nothing else than an ancient sandstone and ferrous salts from one of them. Yes. Gold. Glorious year one coffer. "Glorious" indeed

cyberjanet · August 2021

At least we don't have to feed the gankers.

DMuehlhausen · August 2021

Greensea wrote: »

I'm sat here with 10/12 tickets and the only thing left to buy is group repair kits. It's been like this for the last few events and wanes my interest in them once I hit 12/12. I'm sure previous events used to have more purchasable options, such as the Indrik pets that were only available for event tickets.

I understand if you're a new or returning player then this won't be the case as you'll have some catching up to do, but if you're a regular and routinely play during events then the Impresario has become rather underwhelming.

Yeah I was at 12 tickets mid way through the previous event and only bought the next piece of the mount. Nothing else I'm going to spend them on. I don't like most of the style pages, and even then if I do the dailies on a few characters I'm going to get them all anyway or just wait for a month and get them on the Guild Store for like 300g. They should always have the of the bag that contains random items from previous events so you have a shot at least at getting something from before. That or just make more items.

buttaface · August 2021

Get more morpho pieces, they will likely have a couple of things you want to morph the morphs into by they end of the year.

If the orsinium weapon skins weren't so lackluster, this probably wouldn't be a problem, but they are and so it is.

bruta · August 2021

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

bruta wrote: »

Thannazzar wrote: »

Next event is Blackwood only so make sure you save 10 tickets for your final Quasigriff piece if you don't own the latest chapter

had no clue about this, did they announce this on twitch or something ?

The Blackwood event was on PTS a few weeks ago.

thanks, glad I found out now so I can save 10

SilverBride · August 2021

There hasn't been anything I want for a few events now, so I just forfeit the tickets.

SickleCider · August 2021

I've been having a problem getting excited to engage with these events lately, too. With minimal engagent I have all the currently available gryphon pieces, a morpholith, pieces for the next morpholith, and the personality. I'll end up getting the house for furniture storage only. The year of Guy Fieri (no disrespect) holds no interest to me. The only thing I'm gunning for is the gryphon; truth be told I have no idea what that has to do with the Deadlands or Mehrunes Dragon besides having his name stapled to it, and thank god for that.

six2fall · August 2021

I'm in same boat each day need to buy 1 group repair kit before doing event dailies. It's a pain & wish older items were added to spend tickets on.