phaneub17_ESO wrote: »You know how much DPS my companions do? I don't care!
Bastian: 1h + shield, Heavy, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Drake's Blood, Kindle, Provoke, On Guard, Ritual of Salvation.
Only take him out when confronting World Bosses solo.
Mirri: Dual-Wield, Medium, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Warp Strike, Masque of Torment, Life Siphon, Spinning Steel, Razor Cape.
Mainly use her for the Teleport and AOE fear, it has no target limit then spends the rest of her time doing AOE damage.
I only added the Parallel information for those who want to know more about it, don't actually use it myself as I'm not focused on actually pumping their damage. I play for fun, I don't even max DPS my characters. I do builds that I enjoy with rotations that are easy to handle, avoiding any of the min/max or meta crap. Companions just compliment my gameplay.
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »You know how much DPS my companions do? I don't care!
Bastian: 1h + shield, Heavy, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Drake's Blood, Kindle, Provoke, On Guard, Ritual of Salvation.
Only take him out when confronting World Bosses solo.
Mirri: Dual-Wield, Medium, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Warp Strike, Masque of Torment, Life Siphon, Spinning Steel, Razor Cape.
Mainly use her for the Teleport and AOE fear, it has no target limit then spends the rest of her time doing AOE damage.
I only added the Parallel information for those who want to know more about it, don't actually use it myself as I'm not focused on actually pumping their damage. I play for fun, I don't even max DPS my characters. I do builds that I enjoy with rotations that are easy to handle, avoiding any of the min/max or meta crap. Companions just compliment my gameplay.
I mean.....I at least want to know which trait is the best before I spend gold buying a full epic set.
A epic companion gear is selling for 300k or more.
Even if companion dps don't matter, my 300k matters
Might as well make the most out of that 300k and buy the best companion dps trait.
If only there's some sort of reliable, backed up companion guide online....
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »You know how much DPS my companions do? I don't care!
Bastian: 1h + shield, Heavy, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Drake's Blood, Kindle, Provoke, On Guard, Ritual of Salvation.
Only take him out when confronting World Bosses solo.
Mirri: Dual-Wield, Medium, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Warp Strike, Masque of Torment, Life Siphon, Spinning Steel, Razor Cape.
Mainly use her for the Teleport and AOE fear, it has no target limit then spends the rest of her time doing AOE damage.
I only added the Parallel information for those who want to know more about it, don't actually use it myself as I'm not focused on actually pumping their damage. I play for fun, I don't even max DPS my characters. I do builds that I enjoy with rotations that are easy to handle, avoiding any of the min/max or meta crap. Companions just compliment my gameplay.
I mean.....I at least want to know which trait is the best before I spend gold buying a full epic set.
A epic companion gear is selling for 300k or more.
Even if companion dps don't matter, my 300k matters
Might as well make the most out of that 300k and buy the best companion dps trait.
If only there's some sort of reliable, backed up companion guide online....
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »You know how much DPS my companions do? I don't care!
Bastian: 1h + shield, Heavy, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Drake's Blood, Kindle, Provoke, On Guard, Ritual of Salvation.
Only take him out when confronting World Bosses solo.
Mirri: Dual-Wield, Medium, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Warp Strike, Masque of Torment, Life Siphon, Spinning Steel, Razor Cape.
Mainly use her for the Teleport and AOE fear, it has no target limit then spends the rest of her time doing AOE damage.
I only added the Parallel information for those who want to know more about it, don't actually use it myself as I'm not focused on actually pumping their damage. I play for fun, I don't even max DPS my characters. I do builds that I enjoy with rotations that are easy to handle, avoiding any of the min/max or meta crap. Companions just compliment my gameplay.
I mean.....I at least want to know which trait is the best before I spend gold buying a full epic set.
A epic companion gear is selling for 300k or more.
Even if companion dps don't matter, my 300k matters
Might as well make the most out of that 300k and buy the best companion dps trait.
If only there's some sort of reliable, backed up companion guide online....
Since we cannot measure their DPS then what we have is what we have, good guesses. It is what it is and is the best you will get.
Regardless, I would suggest not wasting 300k gold on a piece of companion gear.
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »StamPlar_1976 wrote: »Test it yourself if you don't like the information given to you.
I dont have 1 billion gold lying around to spend on all these epic companion gear
Besides most of the information given to me so far are "companions are garbage" which unfortunately are not what im looking for.
StamPlar_1976 wrote: »hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »StamPlar_1976 wrote: »Test it yourself if you don't like the information given to you.
I dont have 1 billion gold lying around to spend on all these epic companion gear
Besides most of the information given to me so far are "companions are garbage" which unfortunately are not what im looking for.
Why should someone spend a billion of their hard earned gold so you can see if companions are worth it? Like other people said, if you are so hard pressed on this, download the PTS and test all the different companion gear compositions for free.
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »Like I said, it seems like everyone just throw a resto staff on their Mirri/Bastian and called it a day, no one bothered testing anything.
Danel_Vadan wrote: »hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »Like I said, it seems like everyone just throw a resto staff on their Mirri/Bastian and called it a day, no one bothered testing anything.
Because that's all the Companions are "good" for.
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »redlink1979 wrote: »Companions weren't designed/intented to do a dps amount similar to a player's dps: they are not meant to replace players. Not even with right trait for dps, aggressive (Damage Done), and all gear purple (companion's top quality) you will be able to pull a high dps: it was announced on a ESO live stream that a fully optimized Companion can do between 5k-10k dps.hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »(...) I heard rumors of companions being able to do 15-20k dps (...)
Rumour isn't true at all.
But like, are we even sure that full aggressive is the best setup? What about some extra pen/crit or faster cooldown?
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »You know how much DPS my companions do? I don't care!
Bastian: 1h + shield, Heavy, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Drake's Blood, Kindle, Provoke, On Guard, Ritual of Salvation.
Only take him out when confronting World Bosses solo.
Mirri: Dual-Wield, Medium, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Warp Strike, Masque of Torment, Life Siphon, Spinning Steel, Razor Cape.
Mainly use her for the Teleport and AOE fear, it has no target limit then spends the rest of her time doing AOE damage.
I only added the Parallel information for those who want to know more about it, don't actually use it myself as I'm not focused on actually pumping their damage. I play for fun, I don't even max DPS my characters. I do builds that I enjoy with rotations that are easy to handle, avoiding any of the min/max or meta crap. Companions just compliment my gameplay.
I mean.....I at least want to know which trait is the best before I spend gold buying a full epic set.
A epic companion gear is selling for 300k or more.
Even if companion dps don't matter, my 300k matters
Might as well make the most out of that 300k and buy the best companion dps trait.
If only there's some sort of reliable, backed up companion guide online....
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »phaneub17_ESO wrote: »You know how much DPS my companions do? I don't care!
Bastian: 1h + shield, Heavy, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Drake's Blood, Kindle, Provoke, On Guard, Ritual of Salvation.
Only take him out when confronting World Bosses solo.
Mirri: Dual-Wield, Medium, 26% Reduced Cooldown.
Warp Strike, Masque of Torment, Life Siphon, Spinning Steel, Razor Cape.
Mainly use her for the Teleport and AOE fear, it has no target limit then spends the rest of her time doing AOE damage.
I only added the Parallel information for those who want to know more about it, don't actually use it myself as I'm not focused on actually pumping their damage. I play for fun, I don't even max DPS my characters. I do builds that I enjoy with rotations that are easy to handle, avoiding any of the min/max or meta crap. Companions just compliment my gameplay.
I mean.....I at least want to know which trait is the best before I spend gold buying a full epic set.
A epic companion gear is selling for 300k or more.
Even if companion dps don't matter, my 300k matters
Might as well make the most out of that 300k and buy the best companion dps trait.
If only there's some sort of reliable, backed up companion guide online....
Since we cannot measure their DPS then what we have is what we have, good guesses. It is what it is and is the best you will get.
Regardless, I would suggest not wasting 300k gold on a piece of companion gear.
Yeah I haven't bought any epic gear so far, still stuck with my all blue quickened + shattering. I do managed to find a epic quickened belt for 42k though, dude probably forgot a zero.
Been waiting for more information since blackwood pts.
That information never came, and it seems it will never come anytime soon ugh.
hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »Danel_Vadan wrote: »hcbigdogdoghc wrote: »Like I said, it seems like everyone just throw a resto staff on their Mirri/Bastian and called it a day, no one bothered testing anything.
Because that's all the Companions are "good" for.
If you are soloing wb and stuff a 10k dps companion is like a 20-25% dps boost
How is that not good
cyberjanet wrote: »
phaneub17_ESO wrote: »cyberjanet wrote: »
Have you actually read it or just glanced over? .
kringled_1 wrote: »You can't test with a dummy because you can't bring companions into housing.
I did some testing on this recently. Pretty sure companions have 0 base crit. They're basically a carbon copy of NPC stats, not player stats.The gear optimization, which companion you use, and your character's abilities and bonuses to group members probably are relatively equal in importance to the companion's output.
If my character slots a ton of Breach / - defense debuffs then I can skip caring as much about penetration. If I slot almost no defense debuffs, maybe I sometimes take them into dungeons, then likely I get a decent return on equipping Shattering gear on companions.
Since I share companions across all my characters, I expect gearing them for general-use will be more efficient to my account. So saying 'all aggressive' isn't an exact answer, and it won't apply in all situations.
But if you want damage and don't want to think too much about changing your own playstyle to accommodate the companion then some combination of quickened or aggressive or shattering traits seem like the most effective DPS gain.
Long and excessive example:
If I run a character that boosts crit and crit damage substantially, maybe we come to a point where all Focused gear is the biggest bang for dps.
Presumably, Companions don't have a 0% base crit rate. Let's assume it's 10%.
If I'm playing a Nightblade or Sorcerer (give group minor savagery/sorcery on crit ~6%) and slotting skills that buff the group's crit damage like Aggressive Horn (major force) and -- for a reason I can't think of -- Stalwart Guard for minor force to the companion ... we're hitting a Companion crit rate of ~47% with +20 / +10 % crit damage.
There might be some situation where that results in a really good amount of (companion) damage.
But I went pretty far out of my way to even get a 'maybe' good damage using +Crit gear.