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DreamyLu wrote: »

As said in other threads about same subject: for me, the class is part of my char personality. A different class = a different toon. I create new.

It's funny--I've remade two characters thus far because newer classes came along that were better fits for that character than what I originally chose, so I had the opposite problem. Sure wish there had been a feature to where I didn't have to completely remake them from scratch.

Although I guess I am lucky that at the very least, both times, I still had character slots to work with. As it stands now, I have zero left. If there's a new class next year I have to delete some now.

redspecter23 wrote: »

Class change through the store just like everything else. It seems the most likely.

I should point out that if they had account wide achievements, motifs and recipe knowledge, it would negate my need for a class change. I'd just run alts more often. I wouldn't even have a main at that point. I have 18 toons, 3 of each class.

The reason I'd want a class change and not simply roll an alt as suggested whenever this comes up is that my achievements, motifs and recipes are tied to my main currently and my main is locked into a class chosen close to 7 years ago. I've had no control over class rebalancing or new classes introduced. I'm still stuck with a main I chose as a brand new player in an entirely different environment.

This is the exact reason I would want a class change token/option. I made up a Sorcerer several years ago (well before One Tamriel) and, to me, the Sorcerer class is no where near as fun as it used to be. There is no way that I want to have to redo the crafting unlocks on a new toon because of the huge time gate that is involved. Make the motif/recipes/trait research account wide and I would never even wish for a class change token.

ResidentContrarian wrote: »

If people feel the need to class change, then the solution isn't a class change that is needed, but overall better balance.

Except that isn't the motivation for many people here. If balance is the motivator behind wanting a class change, an alt can fix that. An alt can't fix that I am unhappy with how the character that I am attached to plays.
If you made a Necro because you thought it would be cool but then found out it wasn't that fun, but you still love the look, name and effort you put into your character, then you'd want to class change and not start from scratch.

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

DreamyLu wrote: »

As said in other threads about same subject: for me, the class is part of my char personality. A different class = a different toon. I create new.

Well no one is forced to use and that's great if you see it that way and your characters but why no one should get a chance then to change their classes if they want to? Because not everyone sees their characters like you do or treats their characters like you treat yours.

My bad, I was too short on explaining, sorry. I have nothing against the option being added. Fact is that I have voted wrong. I should have chosen "Other". My true position on this is (you can see it in other threads about same subject): I don't mind that an option can be added, just, I wouldn't use it.

I'm not sure what will be best here but with class change token I'm afraid of one thing - class meta. I'm afraid that many players will change class to actual meta choices which don't change very often (it's not a big deal buy a token once a year) and it will be drastically decrease diversity. It can even encourage to make more restrict class demands in trial groups and other unhealthy behaviours.

It will be much better if ZOS just rebalance all classess to the point where we don't have stronger and weaker options - same power, but different taste.

Dojohoda wrote: »

Should they ever make this available to us, I'd like it be done at a new shrine where you pay to change your class with gold. Perhaps somewhere in the 500,000+ range and it would reset all of your attributes and skill points.

That would also solve the problem of gold inflation.

Class changes I would love to see:
-Stamwhip for DK

Tandor wrote: »

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

I got a question for all of those No voters in this thread, what does it affect YOUR gameplay if other people can change their class?
Let's keep it looking from the PvE aspect of the game.

For example I made a character when I was still fairly new to the game,who I did level up, spend time playing with the character, got skill points,got skill lines leveled up,etc.
He's a dragonknight wich I found out later on I do not enjoy playing as that class at all as more time I tried to master it.For knowing if you really like a class or not you have to spend time trying it out in my opinion.
He's my Khajiit thief and I would want to change him to nightblade.I use him only for solo playing.
And yes he's on of my alt characters not my main.

So again, what does it affect your gameplay if people like me who found out they don't enjoy playing as a class after trying it out more want to be able to change their class on a character?

For one thing, it would create a FOTM class, and if you joined a group but were not that class then "/kick". Everyone claims that it would be optional, but in practice for group/competitive players it would be mandatory and at a very significant financial cost.

For another thing, a lot of players dislike the constant tweaking of their characters' skills and balance by ZOS - that would increase as an incentive to buy more tokens.

That's just two off the top of my head, there are doubtless others - such as the massive diversion of resources that would be necessary to implement it, when there are more pressing issues to be addressed.

That's why a timer would have to come with it so people can't change their class every week.
And yes some people would use such tokens more often than others,same as alliance change or race change ones what are in the game already.Same as character slots because each time meta changes specially in PvP,people make new characters,grind them up and spend again crowns on unlocking skill points and skill lines.
Character slot+skill poins+skill lines = More expensive then a class change token.
As meta changes pretty often specially in PvP people dont want to spend a week or 2 grinding up their new meta character they just buy the stuff so they can spend time and play the content they enjoy.

I agree that it would be surely more difficult to implement than a alliance change token but it is nothing impossible either.
As for the ''pressing issues'' you mentioned,that is relative because for a company the priority is to implement stuff what brings them money,and a class change token would be surely good income.

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Lady_Galadhiel wrote: »

I got a question for all of those No voters in this thread, what does it affect YOUR gameplay if other people can change their class?
Let's keep it looking from the PvE aspect of the game.

For example I made a character when I was still fairly new to the game,who I did level up, spend time playing with the character, got skill points,got skill lines leveled up,etc.
He's a dragonknight wich I found out later on I do not enjoy playing as that class at all as more time I tried to master it.For knowing if you really like a class or not you have to spend time trying it out in my opinion.
He's my Khajiit thief and I would want to change him to nightblade.I use him only for solo playing.
And yes he's on of my alt characters not my main.

So again, what does it affect your gameplay if people like me who found out they don't enjoy playing as a class after trying it out more want to be able to change their class on a character?

For one thing, it would create a FOTM class, and if you joined a group but were not that class then "/kick". Everyone claims that it would be optional, but in practice for group/competitive players it would be mandatory and at a very significant financial cost.

For another thing, a lot of players dislike the constant tweaking of their characters' skills and balance by ZOS - that would increase as an incentive to buy more tokens.

That's just two off the top of my head, there are doubtless others - such as the massive diversion of resources that would be necessary to implement it, when there are more pressing issues to be addressed.

That's why a timer would have to come with it so people can't change their class every week.
And yes some people would use such tokens more often than others,same as alliance change or race change ones what are in the game already.Same as character slots because each time meta changes specially in PvP,people make new characters,grind them up and spend again crowns on unlocking skill points and skill lines.
Character slot+skill poins+skill lines = More expensive then a class change token.
As meta changes pretty often specially in PvP people dont want to spend a week or 2 grinding up their new meta character they just buy the stuff so they can spend time and play the content they enjoy.

I agree that it would be surely more difficult to implement than a alliance change token but it is nothing impossible either.
As for the ''pressing issues'' you mentioned,that is relative because for a company the priority is to implement stuff what brings them money,and a class change token would be surely good income.

I'm more interested in the players' priorities rather than the company's ones, and this isn't the highest player priority by a long way.

I personally prefer in-game earn-ables over cash-shops, so if Class Change Tokens were to appear, I would rather they be obtainable through spending time in the game over real life currency. Even if that meant earning a currency in game and spending it in a shop (like the current endeavours system). At least it would still be a reward for playing the game.

Of course that doesn't make as much money for ZOS, so it is not as favorable to them. But what is favorable for the quarterly earnings is not always what creates a more positive image of the company in the eyes of the customers.