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Will they ever adjust Warden for PvP
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ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭theCampeR_ wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
That is because Warden is behind paywall, so naturally base game class is played more. Not every one has warden & necro.fullheartcontainer wrote: »Are they though? Looking at the stats in one of my pvp addons, there is one class that far outperforms the others and it isnt warden. Warden is barely played at all. I guess maybe you had a bad encounter with a tanky warden or something that deleted you, but statistically you're wrong about everyone rolling one and them dominating pvp. At least on PC-NA
Warden is included in the base game since years now. Your statement couldn't be further away from the truth.
Are you sure about that? When I look into the crown store, I can buy Warden side by side with Necro...?
people who buy the game for the first time have warden included.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX3 -
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It is not.theCampeR_ wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
That is because Warden is behind paywall, so naturally base game class is played more. Not every one has warden & necro.fullheartcontainer wrote: »Are they though? Looking at the stats in one of my pvp addons, there is one class that far outperforms the others and it isnt warden. Warden is barely played at all. I guess maybe you had a bad encounter with a tanky warden or something that deleted you, but statistically you're wrong about everyone rolling one and them dominating pvp. At least on PC-NA
Warden is included in the base game since years now. Your statement couldn't be further away from the truth.
If you buy base game, you have access to base game classes (Templar, DK, Sorc NB). Warden is a DLC class that was introduced with Morrowind Chapter. Necromancer is also a DLC class that was introduced with Elsweyr chapter. So if you bought the game with some kind of additional bundle that included both previous chapters - you also got classes that came with those chapters. If you only buy base game - you dont have access to those classes, unless you buy them from Crown Store, or buy one of the DLC that class is bundled with.
So both those classes are behind additional payments (at least on PC).
Edit: You can check it for yourself. Just open crown store and look for classes. You will notice that the only one you can buy is Warden & Necromancer (if you have one of those it will be grayed out). But the point is that those are the only two. You can not buy NB, Sorc, Templar and DK as those classes are base game classes and are not gated behind additional payments.Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on August 14, 2021 1:50PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Dalsinthus wrote: »fullheartcontainer wrote: »Are they though? Looking at the stats in one of my pvp addons, there is one class that far outperforms the others and it isnt warden. Warden is barely played at all. I guess maybe you had a bad encounter with a tanky warden or something that deleted you, but statistically you're wrong about everyone rolling one and them dominating pvp. At least on PC-NA
That’s really interesting. By those numbers it looks like NB is most popular but Templar has hands down the best k/d. I’d be very interested to see these numbers for the current patch. I feel like I fight tons of wardens and necrosis, but they may stand out more for their tankiness with burst.
Templar has the worse K/D.
The number of top is who the player killed. The number on the bottom is who they were killed by.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.0 -
Jameson18✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
It is not.theCampeR_ wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
That is because Warden is behind paywall, so naturally base game class is played more. Not every one has warden & necro.fullheartcontainer wrote: »Are they though? Looking at the stats in one of my pvp addons, there is one class that far outperforms the others and it isnt warden. Warden is barely played at all. I guess maybe you had a bad encounter with a tanky warden or something that deleted you, but statistically you're wrong about everyone rolling one and them dominating pvp. At least on PC-NA
Warden is included in the base game since years now. Your statement couldn't be further away from the truth.
If you buy base game, you have access to base game classes (Templar, DK, Sorc NB). Warden is a DLC class that was introduced with Morrowind Chapter. Necromancer is also a DLC class that was introduced with Elsweyr chapter. So if you bought the game with some kind of additional bundle that included both previous chapters - you also got classes that came with those chapters. If you only buy base game - you dont have access to those classes, unless you buy them from Crown Store, or buy one of the DLC that class is bundled with.
So both those classes are behind additional payments (at least on PC).
Edit: You can check it for yourself. Just open crown store and look for classes. You will notice that the only one you can buy is Warden & Necromancer (if you have one of those it will be grayed out). But the point is that those are the only two. You can not buy NB, Sorc, Templar and DK as those classes are base game classes and are not gated behind additional payments.
Have bought several base game copies for the kids and friends and it comes with morrowind. Have never paid for warden. At least on Xbox.
Doesn't matter if its in the crown store or not.Edited by Jameson18 on August 14, 2021 6:18PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
It is not.theCampeR_ wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
That is because Warden is behind paywall, so naturally base game class is played more. Not every one has warden & necro.fullheartcontainer wrote: »Are they though? Looking at the stats in one of my pvp addons, there is one class that far outperforms the others and it isnt warden. Warden is barely played at all. I guess maybe you had a bad encounter with a tanky warden or something that deleted you, but statistically you're wrong about everyone rolling one and them dominating pvp. At least on PC-NA
Warden is included in the base game since years now. Your statement couldn't be further away from the truth.
If you buy base game, you have access to base game classes (Templar, DK, Sorc NB). Warden is a DLC class that was introduced with Morrowind Chapter. Necromancer is also a DLC class that was introduced with Elsweyr chapter. So if you bought the game with some kind of additional bundle that included both previous chapters - you also got classes that came with those chapters. If you only buy base game - you dont have access to those classes, unless you buy them from Crown Store, or buy one of the DLC that class is bundled with.
So both those classes are behind additional payments (at least on PC).
Edit: You can check it for yourself. Just open crown store and look for classes. You will notice that the only one you can buy is Warden & Necromancer (if you have one of those it will be grayed out). But the point is that those are the only two. You can not buy NB, Sorc, Templar and DK as those classes are base game classes and are not gated behind additional payments.
Have bought several base game copies for the kids and friends and it comes with morrowind. Have never paid for warden. At least on Xbox.
Doesn't matter if its in the crown store or not.
Yep. Can confirm. Bought base game for a friend a couple of months back and he had warden.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX3 -
Ippokrates✭✭✭✭✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
It is not.theCampeR_ wrote: »Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
That is because Warden is behind paywall, so naturally base game class is played more. Not every one has warden & necro.fullheartcontainer wrote: »Are they though? Looking at the stats in one of my pvp addons, there is one class that far outperforms the others and it isnt warden. Warden is barely played at all. I guess maybe you had a bad encounter with a tanky warden or something that deleted you, but statistically you're wrong about everyone rolling one and them dominating pvp. At least on PC-NA
Warden is included in the base game since years now. Your statement couldn't be further away from the truth.
If you buy base game, you have access to base game classes (Templar, DK, Sorc NB). Warden is a DLC class that was introduced with Morrowind Chapter. Necromancer is also a DLC class that was introduced with Elsweyr chapter. So if you bought the game with some kind of additional bundle that included both previous chapters - you also got classes that came with those chapters. If you only buy base game - you dont have access to those classes, unless you buy them from Crown Store, or buy one of the DLC that class is bundled with.
So both those classes are behind additional payments (at least on PC).
Edit: You can check it for yourself. Just open crown store and look for classes. You will notice that the only one you can buy is Warden & Necromancer (if you have one of those it will be grayed out). But the point is that those are the only two. You can not buy NB, Sorc, Templar and DK as those classes are base game classes and are not gated behind additional payments.
Have bought several base game copies for the kids and friends and it comes with morrowind. Have never paid for warden. At least on Xbox.
Doesn't matter if its in the crown store or not.
Yep. Can confirm. Bought base game for a friend a couple of months back and he had warden.
I was buying the cheapest possible version on PC last summer and i had Morrowind with Warden included (with Naryu in tutorial ;p)Edited by Ippokrates on August 15, 2021 4:22AM2 -
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✭✭✭Kinda ridiculous how people defend stamden/stamcro now and try to make other classes look op. Sorc and Nb have a niche in which they're good in (open world cyro and only because of their mobility) and that's pretty much it. Stamden and Stamcro however are totally broken in everything. Cyro, duels, bgs or group pvp. It doesn't matter, both classes are at least S tier in all of these areas. Also while sorcs and Nbs have a lot of counters (especially after they nerf ball of lightning) and weak match ups there isn't a single counter or weak match up for stamden/cro.
Considering statistics, I'd actually bet that Stamcro is the most played class in duels on pc eu tbh while stamden is the most played for group pvp.I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »Kinda ridiculous how people defend stamden/stamcro now and try to make other classes look op. Sorc and Nb have a niche in which they're good in (open world cyro and only because of their mobility) and that's pretty much it. Stamden and Stamcro however are totally broken in everything. Cyro, duels, bgs or group pvp. It doesn't matter, both classes are at least S tier in all of these areas. Also while sorcs and Nbs have a lot of counters (especially after they nerf ball of lightning) and weak match ups there isn't a single counter or weak match up for stamden/cro.
Considering statistics, I'd actually bet that Stamcro is the most played class in duels on pc eu tbh while stamden is the most played for group pvp.
i'm not gonna defend stamden but i will defend magden. it's not strong in pvp at the moment unless you play full healer.Edited by ESO_Nightingale on August 15, 2021 11:43AMPvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX1 -
mmtaniac✭✭✭✭✭Just add cost to netch but in exchange increase resource gain. It can cost around 750-1000 .0 -
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✭✭Tbh - probably 80% of what I've been seeing since Flames update is NB, Sorc, and Templar.
The age of templar is coming. Mark my words :P
I've been saying magplars are going to be OP in waking flames but people disagree.
3 3 1 armor setup on magplar gets you 42% spell damage bonus, and purifying light scales off spell damage now, as well as living dark. You also get nutty tooltips on rapid regen by stacking damage, talking 38k. Add to that the new revealing flare as the cherry on top.1 -
Jameson18✭✭✭✭✭Tbh - probably 80% of what I've been seeing since Flames update is NB, Sorc, and Templar.
The age of templar is coming. Mark my words :P
I've been saying magplars are going to be OP in waking flames but people disagree.
3 3 1 armor setup on magplar gets you 42% spell damage bonus, and purifying light scales off spell damage now, as well as living dark. You also get nutty tooltips on rapid regen by stacking damage, talking 38k. Add to that the new revealing flare as the cherry on top.
Yup.
My templars are disgusting right now. Going to be even better after the update.0