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PLZ DONT LISTEN TO THE PVP CRYBABIES
Lately there has been alot of crying about how powerful some people are becoming in pvp as a vampire, more specifically VR10 DK vamps since the really good players are nigh unkillable and can slaughter like 15-20 unranked ppl at once single handedly and a coordinated group of 4-5 of them and effectively block a small army. Don't nerf something cause people are good at it, if a player is really good at playing the game and are playing fairly there is no point in penalizing them cause everyone else sucks. It would be a shame to see ESO become Trions Defiance where they listened to every nerf this nerf that complaint and did an amazing job at ruining the game because of it.. Players need to become better to counter each other, right now most ppl just havent figured out how to counter a single/small group of high ranked vamps yet, and once it happens things will be evened out again. Dont ruin vampires cause a few ppl are good at it in pvp.
Edited by tjrichards01_ESO on April 27, 2014 11:34PM 4
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, the problem was, everyone was really stoked for the World of Darkness MMO that's never going to happen now, so they all decided they wanted to roll up vampires in TESO and roleplay them there, honest.0 -
Nooblet✭✭✭✭There's an issue with the ultimate and reducing it's cost to next to nothing. It certainly needs to be addressed. It has nothing to do with being highly skilled.3 -
Atreidus✭✭✭PVP is realy unbalanced. The lower Levels arent scaling right. So they got no Chanche to win even an pile of dirt there. Plus no Veteran expiereince points/no expiereince points at all.Edited by Atreidus on April 27, 2014 11:41PM0 -
ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭So reducing the ultimate cost to 4 because there is no cap means you are good at the game? I see some very delicious vamp tears coming ahead after a rebalance.
Half tamriel is vampire because of it's current advantages. They are not special. You are not special. The game mechanic is just broken.
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Valethar✭✭✭✭Defiance's issues don't stem from PvP complaints about nerfs. The issue there is/was a Dev team that was completely disconnected from the player base, all the way back to Alpha, and who made arbitrary and often idiotic changes for no apparent reason (Ammogate, Grenadegate, etc...).
The biggest and most glaring similarity we have here is the lack of communication.
That said, I'm going to guess your main is a VR10 DK Vamp?
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Medwin✭✭✭✭The problem is that they can get Devouring Swarm cost down to being able to have it always up... if you don't see how that is broken I don't know what to tell you. People are good at it cause it is incredibly easy since it is so strong. Not to mention they can use unbreakable dark talons to keep them in place while they wreck their day with a strong AoE that heals the user.Please read through and comment on my incredibly comprehensive Vampire guide.
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ThreeEyedCrow✭✭✭The problem is that they can get Devouring Swarm cost down to being able to have it always up... if you don't see how that is broken I don't know what to tell you. People are good at it cause it is incredibly easy since it is so strong. Not to mention they can use unbreakable dark talons to keep them in place while they wreck their day with a strong AoE that heals the user.
Dk Vamps can't get Ulti cost down to 4
Sorc Vamps can't use Talons.
Its important to not get those these mixed up as a lot of posters seem to.
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Soloeus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I will tell you why people are crying:
They haven't figured out you can use Fighters Guild abilities, Templar Abilities, Oil, Fire Swords/Staves/Axes to really ruin a Vampire's night.
Vampires ARE balanced; the people fighting them are pretty under par, and didn't consider respecting Vampire/Werewolf to choose Fighter Guild abilities.
Breton Sorc Vamp, and NOT OP.Edited by Soloeus on April 28, 2014 12:20AM
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Jensmom✭✭✭Probably not high enough to be challenged for PvP and not a fan. Is there an opt out function for it? I play to experience the new worlds and people, not to compare my middle aged self to a kid!1
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Atreidus✭✭✭Vampires are balanced? lol i laughed hard. Next time i read"The Easter Bunny is real.".2
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Brakkar✭✭✭Some of my friends met a vampire player in combat, had difficulties engaging him in melee combat, so they swapped to ranged and made quick work of him.
Easy enough.0 -
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You can never balance PvP in a game like this, it can't be done, it has never been done, and it will never be done. Only way to balance PvP is if everyone has the same set of skills, the same stats etc, then it is just the players skill that matters. There will always be some skills and abilities from classes and such that will be stronger than others in different situations.
I have not done any PvP yet because I want to be a higher level with more skills and passives before I try, but I really love the notion that vampire players are powerful if you don't have people who actually choose the skills to counter them. I love the idea of playing a vampire/werewolf hunter on the battlefield. Vampires/werewolves should be strong vs regular players, but weak against fighters guild players.
This means that every army should have a team of dedicated hunters, their own Dawnguard so to speak.0 -
Jirki88✭✭✭Valthorian1914 wrote: »
Sounds like the shoe fit and you wore it... :PVeritas et aequitas, et usque ad mortem.1 -
There is absolutely no question that vamp is overpowered. WW is underpowered and kinda a joke ( and no im not a ww )
WW should get a little bit of a buff Vamps should get a nerf.
To the people who say oh don't punish us cuz we are good at pvp .. well could you do what you do if you didn't have the vamp abilities? prob note huh... well then its not just you being good at pvp.
The Vamp and WW abilities should be a small advantage not a large one.0 -
Strontium✭✭✭You sound like a PVP crybaby to me.
This.
Go cry somewhere, where someone cares.
You want to gank and be ganked? That's cool. Been there, done that. About 15yrs ago. It gets old, when you grow up.
Stop trying to influence this game with your lame desire to make it pvp-centric, when it is not. If it were created that way, we would have pvp servers.
Now, stop crying... I know it's hard. But just...
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ElliottXO✭✭✭✭✭sociald100ub17_ESO wrote: »There is absolutely no question that vamp is overpowered. WW is underpowered and kinda a joke ( and no im not a ww )
WW should get a little bit of a buff Vamps should get a nerf.
To the people who say oh don't punish us cuz we are good at pvp .. well could you do what you do if you didn't have the vamp abilities? prob note huh... well then its not just you being good at pvp.
The Vamp and WW abilities should be a small advantage not a large one.
There should be no advantage at all, but a disadvantage. This here is not twilight online.
If they give you an advantage you will have to be either vamp or werewolf.0 -
I legitimately lol'ed so hard at this thread, because 4 ultimate cost takes skill, meanwhile in playing werewolf and I can only transform every 15 minutes if I'm lucky.|----Cometh' at me bro'eth.--- Aldmeri Dominion NA, Veteran,----|
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[quote="ElliottXO;735372
There should be no advantage at all, but a disadvantage. This here is not twilight online.
If they give you an advantage you will have to be either vamp or werewolf.[/quote]
So there should be a disadvantage? why the hell would someone become one if there was a disadvantage?
its a trade off you get some power with the potential weakness to certain things.
overall its going to give you a little bit of an advantage or people wouldn't do it.. but presently, at least for vamp its a large one.
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AlliN✭✭✭This post sounds like "Leave Britney alone".
This is not, as someone perfectly said, twilight online.1 -
blackwolf7✭✭✭Too bad majority doesnt know how to counter vampires.
I can easily kill vamps in pvp. Not sure hlw they are op)
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✭starkerealm wrote: »Yeah, the problem was, everyone was really stoked for the World of Darkness MMO that's never going to happen now, so they all decided they wanted to roll up vampires in TESO and roleplay them there, honest.
This is one of those "Kill the messenger" moments. R.I.P. world of darkness x.x
Seriously bad news that I didn't know about.... /cry☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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