Cooldown on all delve bosses now?

Rittings · July 2021

Is there a global cooldown on looting delve bosses now?? I mean, I'm finding I'm getting zero loot (other than a bit of gold) from many delve bosses as I go through clearing out incomplete delves in the game with some of my toons... it's been going on for about a week or so now, and wondered if something had changed. I know there is a cooldown on looting the SAME delve boss, but didn't realize this now applied to bosses from different delves.

Khenarthi · July 2021

It has been like this for a number of years, to prevent people overfarming. The cooldown applies to all delve bosses, not just the one you killed now.

Noggin_the_Nog · July 2021

Rittings wrote: »

Is there a global cooldown on looting delve bosses now?.

Yes. Five minute cooldown. Any type of boss - world, delve, public dungeon. Not noticed any cooldown on dolmens or group dungeons.

If you are camping a boss, I'd suggest using a kitchen timer set to 5 mins. If another player(s) comes in and the boss re-spawns before the 5 mins is complete you will not get normal loot - only a small amount of gold.

Have fun out there.

Rittings · July 2021

Khenarthi wrote: »

It has been like this for a number of years, to prevent people overfarming. The cooldown applies to all delve bosses, not just the one you killed now.

Hmmm... I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

So I kill the Endum delve boss, get loot... then within the several minutes cool down I kill the Eroki Ruin delve boss and only get loot from Endum...

Now, I understand the cooldown previously has ONLY applied to the boss in the SAME delve... not cross delve...

Not only this... the cooldown ALSO applies after a dungeon boss.

I'll tell you how I noticed this.

I did a random dungeon, looted the final boss (now I've been in that dungeon for 10+ minutes)... Immediately leave instance to being outside the delve I was just in when I got the queue notification. I go into that delve, kill the boss about 90 seconds later... and ... no loot. Just gold. The final dungeon boss has seemingly put the same cooldown on me.

AlnilamE · July 2021

I mean, going from Public Dungeons, the cooldown has always applied to different bosses.

I didn't realize Group Dungeon bosses were part of that pool, though.

Usually, you don't kill one delve boss and then a different delve boss within five minutes, though, so it's not a huge issue.

jaws343 · July 2021

Rittings wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

It has been like this for a number of years, to prevent people overfarming. The cooldown applies to all delve bosses, not just the one you killed now.

Hmmm... I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

So I kill the Endum delve boss, get loot... then within the several minutes cool down I kill the Eroki Ruin delve boss and only get loot from Endum...

Now, I understand the cooldown previously has ONLY applied to the boss in the SAME delve... not cross delve...

Not only this... the cooldown ALSO applies after a dungeon boss.

I'll tell you how I noticed this.

I did a random dungeon, looted the final boss (now I've been in that dungeon for 10+ minutes)... Immediately leave instance to being outside the delve I was just in when I got the queue notification. I go into that delve, kill the boss about 90 seconds later... and ... no loot. Just gold. The final dungeon boss has seemingly put the same cooldown on me.

The cooldown applies to all bosses in overland. The reason you often do not see it when moving from delve to delve is because it takes longer than the cooldown to do so. The cooldown is still there, but the time it takes to get to the next boss exceeds the cooldown timer.

Noggin_the_Nog wrote: »

Rittings wrote: »

Is there a global cooldown on looting delve bosses now?.

Yes. Five minute cooldown. Any type of boss - world, delve, public dungeon. Not noticed any cooldown on dolmens or group dungeons.

If you are camping a boss, I'd suggest using a kitchen timer set to 5 mins. If another player(s) comes in and the boss re-spawns before the 5 mins is complete you will not get normal loot - only a small amount of gold.

Have fun out there.

Group Dungeons and Trials do not have cooldowns. (Except in the witches festival event I believe, where the Plunder Skull boxes are on the 5 minute timer, even if the rest of the boss loot isn't)

Dolmens don't technically have cooldowns for the chest at the end, but the dropped loot from the final boss of the dolmen is on a cooldown I believe.

Rittings · July 2021

The cross delve boss on cooldown is new... I know this because my wife and I farmed the Outlaw motifs by travelling to each other in different delves over and over...

Malkiv · July 2021

Rittings wrote: »

The cross delve boss on cooldown is new... I know this because my wife and I farmed the Outlaw motifs by travelling to each other in different delves over and over...

It’s not new. It was implemented in patch 1.0.6 of the PC/Mac client. Most people move slow enough that they rarely encounter the internal cool down.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/89332/patch-notes-v1-0-6

“Adjusted the time after you loot a delve or overworld boss before you are eligible to receive loot from these types of bosses again.”

jle30303 · July 2021

There should be an absolute exemption:

The first time any given character kills any given boss, it should drop full loot.

Arunei · July 2021

This cooldown has indeed existed for years. It was done to prevent people from camping certain bosses years back, because people would sit on various bosses and nuke them before people who hadn't yet gotten credit for said bosses could get any hits in. The cooldown was meant to encourage people to move on after killing a boss so others would have a chance to get credit for killing it.

phairdon · July 2021

Rittings wrote: »

Is there a global cooldown on looting delve bosses now?? I mean, I'm finding I'm getting zero loot (other than a bit of gold) from many delve bosses as I go through clearing out incomplete delves in the game with some of my toons... it's been going on for about a week or so now, and wondered if something had changed. I know there is a cooldown on looting the SAME delve boss, but didn't realize this now applied to bosses from different delves.

Same. This feels like it tied in with the beginning of the current event. Go into a delve, no one else present. Kill the boss and get 17 gold. Thought it was a bug. not a one off either.

markulrich1966 · July 2021

there always was a cooldown, but I lately encounter that delve bosses drop only gold and xp, even if I did none before.

I play 18 characters so switch very often (xbox NA).

This happens very often in the delve that is related to the Naruzz the boneweaver dailies, but others too.

I noticed it first in the mentioned delve, already before Elsweyr event started if I remember well.

lillybit · July 2021

In public dungeons the cooldown is 2 bosses in 5 minutes, had assumed it was the same for all bosses

Rittings · July 2021

Yeah, I just tested… I was on a newly logged toon, in a delve I’ve never been in on that toon (Eroki Ruins in Rivenspire) only got gold… it’s not a cool down issue, it’s an actual bug can confirm.

Alucardo · July 2021

I found that, if I killed a delve boss and then someone walked into the cave, the boss would respawn. If I killed it then there'd be no loot. I guess this is what is happening to you. Someone may be entering the delve before the 5 minute timer is up.

Troodon80 · July 2021

Alucardo wrote: »

I found that, if I killed a delve boss and then someone walked into the cave, the boss would respawn. If I killed it then there'd be no loot. I guess this is what is happening to you. Someone may be entering the delve before the 5 minute timer is up.

That assumes they had already killed it and were on cooldown. I can also attest to this "issue" being present where no kill had taken place prior.

When a boss respawns as someone else enters the instance or proximity to where the boss should spawn, that "someone else" should get loot for killing the boss if they are not already on cooldown from another boss. This is not the case. It would seem to me that the cooldown is currently tied to the instance rather than the player, or players are getting assigned a cooldown based on the instance; so a player enters who is not on cooldown, the boss spawns before its respawn timer, they kill the boss, gets only a handful of gold and experience but no loot.

Rittings · July 2021

@Troodon80 is absolutely accurate in their description. Further testing. The cooldown, is now tied to OTHER players and the instance… which is utterly ridiculous. You may never get loot if someone else kills before you do… previously I’d wait for someone else to finish killing if the delve was new to me, then get the auto 30 second spawn for me as a new delve boss… and loot… but now you cannot do this. You have to just sit and wait for 5 minute global cooldown for the instance. This is nonsensical… and appears NOWHERE in patch notes…

@ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GinaBruno answers please?

Rittings · July 2021

If this is the new intended change, then maybe we need to make it so boss spawns only on cooldown and no more having it pop for someone without the delve complete. Because you could effectively have it pop for your new toon at 4 minutes 30 seconds, not know it… kill the boss, get no loot…. And then have to wait 5 mins for respawn… so nearly 10 minutes to get some loot…

spartaxoxo · July 2021

That has to be a bug.

TwinLamps · July 2021

Its more like 3 min cooldown from what I saw

Amottica · July 2021

Khenarthi wrote: »

It has been like this for a number of years, to prevent people overfarming. The cooldown applies to all delve bosses, not just the one you killed now.

Technically it is to hinder bots farming the bosses, but this statement is correct.

phairdon · August 2021

This change is very annoying. Took a character through four delves in one of the zones tonight. Only one of the delves dropped loot. The other three gave either 20 or 30 gold.

ShawnLaRock · August 2021

Arunei wrote: »

This cooldown has indeed existed for years. It was done to prevent people from camping certain bosses years back, because people would sit on various bosses and nuke them before people who hadn't yet gotten credit for said bosses could get any hits in. The cooldown was meant to encourage people to move on after killing a boss so others would have a chance to get credit for killing it.

Aaaaaand - then they implemented Antiquities Leads…

S.

Caligamy_ESO · August 2021

Khenarthi wrote: »

It has been like this for a number of years, to prevent people overfarming. The cooldown applies to all delve bosses, not just the one you killed now.

It is not this ^

I have noticed this since Blackwood sometimes one of my characters who I haven't done a delve on for hours or even days will go do a delve.. and get nothing but gold. I first started noticing it doing the Dragonhold dailies.

phairdon · August 2021

Caligamy_ESO wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

It has been like this for a number of years, to prevent people overfarming. The cooldown applies to all delve bosses, not just the one you killed now.

It is not this ^

I have noticed this since Blackwood sometimes one of my characters who I haven't done a delve on for hours or even days will go do a delve.. and get nothing but gold. I first started noticing it doing the Dragonhold dailies.

^

Went through 9 delves tonight. 3 different zones. 5 dropped a small amount of gold. 4 dropped the 'regular' loot. A player was camped at a boss in one of the delves, which effected the loot drop.

kojou · August 2021

I feel like something has changed in this regard as well... I have killed delve bosses without getting loot more lately