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Another PvE vs Cyrodiil Thread...

  • AlnilamE
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    Sabriel7 wrote: »
    Hello! I would like to propose a slight tweak to some of the current achievements in game. Namely the Tamriel Hero, Tamriel Master Adventurer, and Tamriel Skyshard Hunter. All these achievements have a similar theme to them, they take a long time to get, and are mostly done completely in PvE zones. Except for Cyrodiil… Anyone who has done these titles knows it takes a LONG time to complete. You have to do all the locales, delves, and quests in each of the alliance zones. Tbh it’s a PvE achievement all the way. EXCEPT when you have to be in Cyrodiil for the last bit. I mean the skyshard one requires you to wait for gates to open so you can get the final skyshards in Cyrodiil. I would like to propose that the PvP portion of these achievements (namely the parts in Cyrodiil) get separated from the original achievement, and are made into their own separate achievement for PvP. .

    OP, fortunately for you, what you are asking for already exists. There are Hunter, Master Explorer and Hero achievements for each alliance. The "Tamriel" version, which includes the Cyrodiil achievements for each kind, is a Meta-achievement, and it gives you an extra cool thing ( a dye). You don't have to do it if you don't want to, just like the Imperial City achievements. You can complete the outside of Cyrodiil achievements and call it a day. It's your choice not to do so.

    That said, I think you are approaching this from the wrong end if you thing Cyrodiil is the "last bit". Nothing stops you from asking around for a campaign that your alliance tends to dominate at the time you can play when your character is level 10 and making that your home campaign. Then, as you go about your day questing and exploring in PvE, just look at the Cyrodiil map every once in a while to see what the status of the map is. If the enemy gates are open, go get the skyshards.

    All my alts have the skyshards behind enemy gates in Cyrodiil, even if those are the only 4 they have there, since it's not their turn to go exploring the zone yet. It just took some awareness of what was going on in Cyro and hoofing it to the nearest open gate when the opportunity arose. Did I get killed once or twice? Yes. But mostly getting through the guards at the gate is the challenging part.
    The Moot Councillor
  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    I'll be honest, even as a PvPer I can understand this. If you're not logged in at the right time on the right faction, you're not getting those shards. Fair call.

    Also, I believe the Imperial City Fishing achievement is separated from the master fisher one? So I don't see why the skyshard one shouldn't be too.

    @Alucardo

    Master Angler is only for base game. Would love more titles for fishing tbh.

  • Alucardo
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    I'll be honest, even as a PvPer I can understand this. If you're not logged in at the right time on the right faction, you're not getting those shards. Fair call.

    Also, I believe the Imperial City Fishing achievement is separated from the master fisher one? So I don't see why the skyshard one shouldn't be too.

    @Alucardo

    Master Angler is only for base game. Would love more titles for fishing tbh.

    I wish I got a title for my Imperial City fishing achievement. With all the nightblades around it wasn't easy -_-
  • AlnilamE
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    I'll be honest, even as a PvPer I can understand this. If you're not logged in at the right time on the right faction, you're not getting those shards. Fair call.

    Also, I believe the Imperial City Fishing achievement is separated from the master fisher one? So I don't see why the skyshard one shouldn't be too.

    @Alucardo

    Master Angler is only for base game. Would love more titles for fishing tbh.

    I wish I got a title for my Imperial City fishing achievement. With all the nightblades around it wasn't easy -_-

    I'm missing one fish and everything there is foul water, so 1/12 chance each time. :-/
    The Moot Councillor
  • Alucardo
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    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    I'll be honest, even as a PvPer I can understand this. If you're not logged in at the right time on the right faction, you're not getting those shards. Fair call.

    Also, I believe the Imperial City Fishing achievement is separated from the master fisher one? So I don't see why the skyshard one shouldn't be too.

    @Alucardo

    Master Angler is only for base game. Would love more titles for fishing tbh.

    I wish I got a title for my Imperial City fishing achievement. With all the nightblades around it wasn't easy -_-

    I'm missing one fish and everything there is foul water, so 1/12 chance each time. :-/

    OHH yeah, I remember the last one took me a loong time to get. Hopefully you have better fortune than I did. It's probably even more difficult with MYM going on xD
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    I started reading the OP and got through a few lines and just stopped right away and skipped to the comments.

    NO, ABSOLUTELY NO.

    I got Explorer, Cyrodiil skyshards, Savior of Tamriel, and Hero of Tamriel on my PvE stamblade with crafted gear. Solo.

    Don’t take that away from me. It’s one of the achievements of which I am most proud.
    Khajiit Stamblade main
    Dark Elf Magsorc
    Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
    Orc Stamplar PVP
    Breton Magsorc PVP
    Dark Elf Necromancer
    Dark Elf Magden
    Khajiit Stamblade
    Khajiit Stamina Arcanist

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  • AlnilamE
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    AlnilamE wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    Alucardo wrote: »
    I'll be honest, even as a PvPer I can understand this. If you're not logged in at the right time on the right faction, you're not getting those shards. Fair call.

    Also, I believe the Imperial City Fishing achievement is separated from the master fisher one? So I don't see why the skyshard one shouldn't be too.

    @Alucardo

    Master Angler is only for base game. Would love more titles for fishing tbh.

    I wish I got a title for my Imperial City fishing achievement. With all the nightblades around it wasn't easy -_-

    I'm missing one fish and everything there is foul water, so 1/12 chance each time. :-/

    OHH yeah, I remember the last one took me a loong time to get. Hopefully you have better fortune than I did. It's probably even more difficult with MYM going on xD

    Yeah, I'll go on a fishing spree soon and finish the DLC zones I don't have yet, inlcuding IC. My main is a nightblade, so that should help. :-)
    The Moot Councillor
  • StShoot
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    Sabriel7 wrote: »
    No reason to do that. You can simply wait for your color to dominate one of the campaigns, them get the skyshards rather easy.

    Since you’re a PvEr, dying shouldn’t matter to you because you’re questing. Also, when your faction is dominate, you can easily revive at a keep close by any quest you’re doing.

    The achievement requires you to go into a PvP zone. Imo it is smart move on ZOS’ part to give players an incentive to try different content.

    So I am not seeing your problem really....


    Hmmm, well if we are on the topic of forcing people to do different content then absolutely they should make the PvP ranks at least require some PvE content then! I mean I was just joking when I said EMP should require malestrom, but if you think that forcing people to do content they absolutely do not want to do is a brilliant marketing tactic, then why not make it so some of the PvP achievements require you to finish hard PvE content as well! Excellent idea. Everyone is forced to do everything now. Even if they really dont want to.

    Pvp players are forced to do pve content. Or how do you think we get most of our monstersets, arena weapons, mythics and so on ? Relying on the golden vendor and pvp sets isnt realy viable if you plan to make a decent build xD
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    StShoot wrote: »
    Sabriel7 wrote: »
    No reason to do that. You can simply wait for your color to dominate one of the campaigns, them get the skyshards rather easy.

    Since you’re a PvEr, dying shouldn’t matter to you because you’re questing. Also, when your faction is dominate, you can easily revive at a keep close by any quest you’re doing.

    The achievement requires you to go into a PvP zone. Imo it is smart move on ZOS’ part to give players an incentive to try different content.

    So I am not seeing your problem really....


    Hmmm, well if we are on the topic of forcing people to do different content then absolutely they should make the PvP ranks at least require some PvE content then! I mean I was just joking when I said EMP should require malestrom, but if you think that forcing people to do content they absolutely do not want to do is a brilliant marketing tactic, then why not make it so some of the PvP achievements require you to finish hard PvE content as well! Excellent idea. Everyone is forced to do everything now. Even if they really dont want to.

    Pvp players are forced to do pve content. Or how do you think we get most of our monstersets, arena weapons, mythics and so on ? Relying on the golden vendor and pvp sets isnt realy viable if you plan to make a decent build xD

    It's not even just the monster sets or the dungeon sets, or fighter's guild, or mages guild, or undaunted, or psijic skill line, it's also just taking resources in Cyrodil, which require you to fight PVE NPCs that are more difficult to fight solo than most vet dungeon mob groups.
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    OP sounds more like Tamriel Coward rather than Tamriel Hero.
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