The week’s weekly endevors
BlueRaven
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Complete 5 battlegrounds
Complete 7 dungeons
Complete 2 arenas.
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So I guess we will see a spike in fake tanks/healers? And a spike in afkers in bgs?
Fantastic.
I really wish zos thought this things through..
Complete 7 dungeons
Complete 2 arenas.
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So I guess we will see a spike in fake tanks/healers? And a spike in afkers in bgs?
Fantastic.
I really wish zos thought this things through..
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jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's the middle of a mid-year mayhem event, just do the 5 bgs, 1 per day, with the 1000 participation score, and also get event tickets.7 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Honestly, this forum is never happy.
You have pvp content.
Group PvE content.
Solo PvE content.
I don't often feel sorry for ZOS, but I kinda do on this one.
What else do people want? Log in to the game twice for a weekly?33 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭20 Transmute gems? Are you serious? So PvPers who are usually at max transmute gems anyway essentially just get 50 seals of endeavors less for a currency you can only have a certain maximum amount of that you can also get easily from pledges, rewards of the worthy and daily random dungeons and battlegrounds.
And just when I thought this system can't disappoint me further.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, this forum is never happy.
You have pvp content.
Group PvE content.
Solo PvE content.
I don't often feel sorry for ZOS, but I kinda do on this one.
What else do people want? Log in to the game twice for a weekly?
To be fair, OP isn't stating that these are annoying or difficult for themselves, but they do worry about the meta effect on the community. That's a valid concern. At least a small part of the endeavor system is intended to nudge players into certain content. Content they may not want to even be in. If a player can afk and complete an objective, at least some small part of the population will go that route. This system seems to encourage that, even if it's only a small amount of players that might take advantage that way.
While I don't completely agree that it's a massive problem at the moment, it is a sign that ZOS perhaps might not have completely considered all the consequences of nudging players toward content that they only want to run for rewards and have no intention of actively participating in. We see this with various other aspects of the game on a regular basis and is why we see so many threads about pve'ers in pvp zones. ZOS encourages the mix, which leads to conflict (by design), but you could question if that design is healthy overall when you have areas of the game inhabited by players that don't want to be there for any reason other than the rewards.Edited by redspecter23 on June 28, 2021 4:54PM5 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »Honestly, this forum is never happy.
You have pvp content.
Group PvE content.
Solo PvE content.
I don't often feel sorry for ZOS, but I kinda do on this one.
What else do people want? Log in to the game twice for a weekly?
To be fair, OP isn't stating that these are annoying or difficult for themselves, but they do worry about the meta effect on the community. That's a valid concern. At least a small part of the endeavor system is intended to nudge players into certain content. Content they may not want to even be in. If a player can afk and complete an objective, at least some small part of the population will go that route. This system seems to encourage that, even if it's only a small amount of players that might take advantage that way.
While I don't completely agree that it's a massive problem at the moment, it is a sign that ZOS perhaps might not have completely considered all the consequences of nudging players toward content that they only want to run for rewards and have no intention of actively participating in. We see this with various other aspects of the game on a regular basis and is why we see so many threads about pve'ers in pvp zones. ZOS encourages the mix, which leads to conflict (by design), but you could question if that design is healthy overall when you have areas of the game inhabited by players that don't want to be there for any reason other than the rewards.
Yup. This exactly.
I understand they want the weekly challenges to be, well, a challenge. But this week is going to be a particular problematic.
I know many members of my guilds who don’t like being in groups (due to lack of confidence with their abilities) and they don’t have the dps to pull off an arena. So what option will they pick?
Personally I don’t like pugging dungeons, but we group up for dungeons so rarely it has been literally months since I did one.
I have a baby tank, maybe level 11. I haa as be been ignoring it for a while with all thectank nerfs. I am just going to do them on that character. Easy dungeons, I will get a fast que, and hopefully mostly pain free.2 -
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✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »Honestly, this forum is never happy.
You have pvp content.
Group PvE content.
Solo PvE content.
I don't often feel sorry for ZOS, but I kinda do on this one.
What else do people want? Log in to the game twice for a weekly?
To be fair, OP isn't stating that these are annoying or difficult for themselves, but they do worry about the meta effect on the community. That's a valid concern. At least a small part of the endeavor system is intended to nudge players into certain content. Content they may not want to even be in. If a player can afk and complete an objective, at least some small part of the population will go that route. This system seems to encourage that, even if it's only a small amount of players that might take advantage that way.
While I don't completely agree that it's a massive problem at the moment, it is a sign that ZOS perhaps might not have completely considered all the consequences of nudging players toward content that they only want to run for rewards and have no intention of actively participating in. We see this with various other aspects of the game on a regular basis and is why we see so many threads about pve'ers in pvp zones. ZOS encourages the mix, which leads to conflict (by design), but you could question if that design is healthy overall when you have areas of the game inhabited by players that don't want to be there for any reason other than the rewards.
Yup. This exactly.
I understand they want the weekly challenges to be, well, a challenge. But this week is going to be a particular problematic.
I know many members of my guilds who don’t like being in groups (due to lack of confidence with their abilities) and they don’t have the dps to pull off an arena. So what option will they pick?
Personally I don’t like pugging dungeons, but we group up for dungeons so rarely it has been literally months since I did one.
I have a baby tank, maybe level 11. I haa as be been ignoring it for a while with all thectank nerfs. I am just going to do them on that character. Easy dungeons, I will get a fast que, and hopefully mostly pain free.
You can run FG1 with a companion on normal and complete it. Its super duper easy.
You can run normal Maelstrom and complete it.
Just giving out some options.17 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ZoS just can't win here. We have people complain when there are endeavors that include things they normally do not participate in and we have people complaining because endeavors include their preferred activity.
"I know many members of my guilds who don’t like being in groups (due to lack of confidence with their abilities) and they don’t have the dps to pull off an arena. So what option will they pick?"
If you have a character that can solo FG1 you might offer carries in guild chat. You don't need to do a random or anything like that for the endeavor. If they know it is a quick run for the endeavor they might join knowing you have what it takes to get them through.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."4 -
aaisoaho✭✭✭✭✭No matter what set of endeavors you have, you can always come up with a hypothetical player who could not do a single one of the endeavors. So should the devs even try to cater to every hypothetical player?
I'd like to argue this week is a good week. You don't need to complete a vet dungeon/arena/trial. You have a choice between PVP and PVE, and the PVE side even has a choice between running arenas or running group dungeons.
Now those who does not want to participate in MYM will have players in the dungeon finder. If you're worried about guildies not able to complete dungeons and arenas, offer them a helping hand. Organise a guild event about completing normal base game dungeons or a DSA&BRP event.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MythrialDrow wrote: »Or just do 7 dungeons on normal . Easy.
Yeah, it will be easy now that I've convinced Bastian not to go changing my preferences from Normal to Veteran!
I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!0 -
WiseSky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I wish next Week is Get 10 " Awesome" on forums.
That would be the only way people would not complain here2 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If they know it is a quick run for the endeavor they might join knowing you have what it takes to get them through.
About a week and a half ago we had a sunspire run but we only had 11 people. We tried to get some people we knew were shy with groups to join us. We told them it was fine, they did not have to worry about their dps, just to come along and have fun.
Even though they knew everyone in the group, they were too self conscious to come.
There are people who just don’t like being in groups, for any reason. I see this even when organizing housing tours. They will follow along, port to the home I am at, but they will not join the group. NOR will they even join us in discord.
And who ended up being our 12th for sunspire?Bastion.
(Side note: Bastion did quite well! Did not die once.)3 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »
I interpreted the challenge as the solo arenas. Although if I am mistaken in my interpretation, I apologize.
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✭You can solo FG1 on normal on, basically any level above 30, so why worry about fake roles. Enter from surface.
I normally farm CoH1 (for Levi) and CoA1 (does this BSW inferno staff even exists?) - so absolutely doable.PC EU0 -
Elvenheart✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Complete 5 battlegrounds
Complete 7 dungeons
Complete 2 arenas.
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So I guess we will see a spike in fake tanks/healers? And a spike in afkers in bgs?
Fantastic.
I really wish zos thought this things through..
“Gloom, despair, and agony on me.
Deep dark depression, excessive misery!
If it weren’t for bad luck I’d have no luck at all.
Gloom, despair, and agony on me!”5 -
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✭✭✭I was going to try and get the PvP guild to do some arenas. It's about doing something new, and experienced players can help newer players get nice stuff for PvP builds. We all kind of win in the end on this one
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✭✭✭From Wikipedia: “Eeyore is a fictional character in the Winnie-the-Pooh books by A. A. Milne. He is generally characterized as a pessimistic, gloomy, depressed, anhedonic, old grey stuffed donkey who is a friend of the title character, Winnie-the-Pooh.”0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »
I interpreted the challenge as the solo arenas. Although if I am mistaken in my interpretation, I apologize.
Nothing to apologize for. I'm just letting you know. I know more than one person who has avoided the Arenas, even on normal, thinking they were going to be nightmares. I'd say nBRP is probably on par with the hardest of non-DLC normal dungeons or the easiest of the DLC dungeons. Outside of one round where you have to keep the enemies from achieving a certain goal, nDSA is easier than that.
Normal 4-man Arenas are trivial for players accustomed to Vet content. For players not at that level, they'll present more of a challenge, but they're perfectly completable. Certainly worth getting your feet wet for your weekly Endeavors. That's the point of Endeavors, after all. To get people to do various things."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle1 -
BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MasterSpatula wrote: »MasterSpatula wrote: »
I interpreted the challenge as the solo arenas. Although if I am mistaken in my interpretation, I apologize.
Nothing to apologize for. I'm just letting you know. I know more than one person who has avoided the Arenas, even on normal, thinking they were going to be nightmares. I'd say nBRP is probably on par with the hardest of non-DLC normal dungeons or the easiest of the DLC dungeons. Outside of one round where you have to keep the enemies from achieving a certain goal, nDSA is easier than that.
Normal 4-man Arenas are trivial for players accustomed to Vet content. For players not at that level, they'll present more of a challenge, but they're perfectly completable. Certainly worth getting your feet wet for your weekly Endeavors. That's the point of Endeavors, after all. To get people to do various things.
I have done the DSA before, even on vet.
But with DSA I have always interpreted as being another dungeon because of the group size. While the term "arena" I have always associated with being single player versions, like Maelstrom. So when I saw "2 arenas" I assumed they meant two solo arenas, which even on normal are not that casual friendly IMO. That is why I said their DPS may not be good enough for two arenas.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I love the addition of 20 transmute crystals to this week's endeavors! As a PvE soloist, that is a welcome boon. I normally average one solo pledge a day for one crystal per day (though I can manage averaging two pledges a day solo). MYM is also a nice temporary boost to my transmute crystals since that is the only time of year I find it worthwhile to farm them in Cyrodiil.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo4 -
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✭I was farming Arx anyway, so alternated with FG1, and did 2 undaunted pledges solo, I'm done for the week, ty ZoS.
Normal dungeons are doable, I can't do vet solo tho lol
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✭✭✭✭Icy_Waffles wrote: »Every day/ week with these posts.
Don't worry, it will pass once all options are through...0 -
WySoSirius✭✭✭✭I have 2 legit healers and 2 legit tanks I run random pugs daily. So I will be alright with that endeavour0
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Alendrin✭✭✭Complete 5 battlegrounds
Complete 7 dungeons
Complete 2 arenas.
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So I guess we will see a spike in fake tanks/healers? And a spike in afkers in bgs?
Fantastic.
I really wish zos thought this things through..
This week is about as easy as things can get. What are you looking for?3
