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Is Betty Netch OP?
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techyeshic✭✭✭✭✭Im to a point where it doesn't matter. I feel like I am fighting lag more than players or classes2 -
NyassaV✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The only reason it could be considered OP is that it costs very little. I can't remember if they added a cost to it? On release it cost nothing.
It's OP in the same way that Refreshing Path doing damage was OP, which is to say not very OP in practice but on paper it looks too good to allow to be in the game.Flawless Conqueror ~ Grand OverlordShe/Her ~ PC/NA | I record things for fun and for info1 -
iksde✭✭✭✭as I remember I cant remember a single skill for weapon and spell dmg buff which would have that many benefits at so "low" cost
I cant remember a single sustain skill to have that many benefits at once and to have no cost in activation
I cant remember a singe purge skill to have no cost and also that many benefits at once in itEdited by iksde on June 13, 2021 12:20PM2 -
Tethilia✭✭✭I think Betty Netch needs another abiliity to instantly kill any enemy players within 50 meters of you in pvp and also grant you a free crown crate every hour it is summoned.1 -
Tethilia✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »deathbytiki wrote: »ALSO, consider champion point implications of this FREE ability too... .
It is not free. Time is very costly in PvP and the use of the skill costs time.
What about almost all other classes not only take time but also REAL stamina / magicka / health costs?
The fact is clear, with ONE spammable ZERO cost skill, you have:
1. Purge with ZERO cost
2. Major Brutality and Sorcery for ZERO cost
3. Stamina / Magicka regen for ZERO cost
4. Health regen from the Animal Companions skill line passive that you can spam netch for ZERO cost
Can ZOS please add some skills like netch to other classes? I'm happy to have the "time cost" but ZERO real cost. Thanks.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Betty_Netch_(skill)
Nah, just add the netch to every class. Everybody needs a netch buddy.0 -
LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »deathbytiki wrote: »ALSO, consider champion point implications of this FREE ability too... .
It is not free. Time is very costly in PvP and the use of the skill costs time.
What about almost all other classes not only take time but also REAL stamina / magicka / health costs?
The fact is clear, with ONE spammable ZERO cost skill, you have:
1. Purge with ZERO cost
2. Major Brutality and Sorcery for ZERO cost
3. Stamina / Magicka regen for ZERO cost
4. Health regen from the Animal Companions skill line passive that you can spam netch for ZERO cost
Can ZOS please add some skills like netch to other classes? I'm happy to have the "time cost" but ZERO real cost. Thanks.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Betty_Netch_(skill)
Nah, just add the netch to every class. Everybody needs a netch buddy.
Yep that's why I asked ZOS to add skills like netch to other classes.
Wardens are fine, well balanced, paid class.No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.0 -
Luckylancer✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »Luckylancer wrote: »I always say this when I see "nerf the squid" post.
If you remove bull netch, warden won't be that much weaker.
Everyone bash on it because it is free. I bet those who complain about it free doesn't even know the term global cooldown. Arguing with those who don't know GCD won't lead to anywhere.
If there were no netch, rally would give the needed 20% weapon damage on top of the all mighty rally heal.
Global cooldowns exist for every single ability in this game.
Including netch. It costs the most unreplaceable annd most hard capped resource in combat.
Warden's strength is not based on a mere buff skill. Likes of you just want to pick tear the class untill next OP class emerges. HP based shield got nuked by 20% already. Stamden lost 6k pen. What is next after netch?0 -
Dojohoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Betty is balanced by the optics of having a weird floating jellyfish attached to your body. Frankly I am shocked that the bear doesn't eat it.Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
Might be joking in comments.
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Sorbin✭✭✭✭Netch is great and undoubtedly has a ton of value. That said, it's not the reason Wardens are effective as they are. It's a perfect example of the kind of value more class skills should offer. The four base game classes have a ton of skills that are just garbage that could use a rework to offer more and put them closer to what Warden and Necro can do3
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iksde✭✭✭✭Netch is great and undoubtedly has a ton of value. That said, it's not the reason Wardens are effective as they are. It's a perfect example of the kind of value more class skills should offer. The four base game classes have a ton of skills that are just garbage that could use a rework to offer more and put them closer to what Warden and Necro can do
the best here is that all these classes - espeially dk and templar - had a lot taken out to give it to warden....and later even more taken out of classes to give it to necro
so tbh yeah, it would be nice if all basic classes could get unnerf which they got to sell warden and necro0 -
Tethilia✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »
Yep that's why I asked ZOS to add skills like netch to other classes.
Wardens are fine, well balanced, paid class.
No, not like netch. The Netch! You have to have the Jellyfish!Edited by Tethilia on June 28, 2021 5:59PM0
