I know.
And to prevent stacking mistakes I made sure that I had a naked char with no mitigation for a baseline and to test the aegis I used jewels as they give no mitigation in any way.

Also, a little back I posted here about the mitigation calculator I made in excel and google sheets.

But I was wondering though, but someone fall asleep on the button while entering the numbers

Side note, that also means your baseline is off.

My testing btw was not 2 or 3 tries. I literally died over 1000 times(lost that much soulgems) to get this data.

Aegis is an armor buff, bound aegis is a sorc skill.

I think my wording was wrong.

When you have a 10% mitigation that's always there, you can ignore that over the rest of the calculation and just take the result as a baseline.
This is because that 10% lower damage we receive is the new value over which we do the entire calculation(not going to explain the details, but google will be happy to help you on that).

When I go over the necro skill bitter harvest and and armor buff aegis I have no other kinds of mitigation but one of these. This makes that what I observe as what it is.
When I said that for Aegis it was not 5%, but 4.44445% this is due to an offset in the multiplier, not in the mitigation itself(see the way I tested this above).

Block mitigation you just add everything up and multiply that with the blocking, rather than multiply like the general mitigation and basically comes down to the following calculation: (0.5*(1-(Block mitigation 1+block mitigation 2+block mitigation 3+......)-(extra block from armor buff))).

Now to bound aegis;
When blocking only I expect 50% damage reduction, that's what block should do. When I got hit by olms I also observed a decrease in damage of 50%, so this is correct.
Now I take bound armor which has 36% more block mitigation in the tooltip.
Here I expected (0.5*(1-(0.36)-(0)))=0.32 which if the multiplier for 68%
At olms I received a 49753 hit which is in line with what I would have expected when I multiply 155478 with 0.32.
When I morph bound armor to bound aegis it should be (0.5*(1-(0.37)-(0)))=0.315 which is the multiplies for 68.5%
At olms I reveived a hit of 46643 which is less than I expected because when I multiply 155478 with 0.315 I get 48976.
However, when I take (0.5*(1-(0.4)-(0)))=0.3 which is the multiplier for 70% I do get the 46643 I expected.

(0.5*(1-(0.36)-(0))) Bound armor with 36% mitigation
(0.5*(1-(0.37)-(0))) Bound aegis with 37% according to the tooltip
(0.5*(1-(0.4)-(0))) Bound aegis with the 40% I measured

In all these tests I did not have any CP slotted, I did not have any passives unlocked I did not wear any armor or carry any weapons.
I only had jewels slotted when testing aegis, all other tests I did not have any jewels.
I had no skills slotted during any of the tests aside from bound armor/bound aegis when testing these skills or bitter harvest when testing that skill.

I hope this will clarify some of the lack in explanation I had before.

I guess the bound aegis was a pts mistake of mine. Tooltip initially stated 37%, but the moment I morph it it goes to 40% directly and I did not notice that detail>.<

I guess I need to take back what I said before and I was wrong about bound aegis. My apologies for being rude.

However, back to the main topic, the multiplier of aegis and bitter harvest is off by a little.

When I take other buffs like protective scale from the DK or disdaim harm from the necro it does check out exactly to what I expect between tooltip and what the game returns. Mistform on the otherhand is slightly less mitigation than 75%(0.2558112 multiplier making for 74.441%).

Also, the CP Preparation, Hardy and Elemental Aegis are a little bit more.
I did not mention those in the beginning because the more mitigation offsets are an advantage to all the players, but the less mitigation are a disadvantage.

Could you give me the details, or compare it to my calculator? I want it to be 100% accurate, and the more test it, the easier errors are spotted.

@paulsimonps , do you have an opinion here?

Ok, so I went on PTS and tested Bound Aegis. Works as intended. At first I thought he was right and it was giving more mitigation than normal but I was being an idiot, I completely forgot for a moment that Bound Aegis also applies Minor Resolve at all times. So you get 2974 resistance as well as the 40% block mitigation.

Saint Olms Swipe attack

Base damage 155,478

blocking 77,739

blocking bound aegis 44,612

155,478*(1-((2,974-100)/660/100))*0.5*0.60=44,612.2919455

Don't forget mobs have a base 100 pen still on them, they just removed it from us.

superryan94 wrote: »

paulsimonps wrote: »

I just recently reinstalled my OS and never redownloaded the PTS so will take me a bit to do that to confirm any of this, I like to retest anything people claim is off myself before reengaging in discussion about it. But just to clarify, cause this thread was a bit confusing to read. Is the confusion/claim that Bound aegis, the sorcerer skill is mitigating MORE than it should? As well does Minor Aegis do LESS mitigation? Or did I miss read these claims? Again it was a bit confusing to read, and everyone had the base avatar so I had to keep rereading the names to make sure I was following along the conversation accurately, which I think I didn't.

It was about the aegis gear buff(minor and major aegis) and bitter harvest are lower than the tooltip.
Bound aegis was a mistake that was easy to make due to the pts testing.

I will test that tomorrow morning then.

@paulsimonps Thank you for confirming my observations.
You tested the minor/major aegis too, right?