If it costs magicka or deals magic, fire, ice, or lightning it uses spell crit.

If it costs stamina or deals physical, poison, bleed, or disease it uses weapon crit.

If it costs health/ult but heals I'm going to assume it uses spell crit.

This means that Cauterize uses spell crit even when it scales off of the highest offensive stat.

Vevvev wrote: »

If it costs magicka or deals magic, fire, ice, or lightning it uses spell crit.

If it costs stamina or deals physical, poison, bleed, or disease it uses weapon crit.

If it costs health/ult but heals I'm going to assume it uses spell crit.

This means that Cauterize uses spell crit even when it scales off of the highest offensive stat.

That was my orinal answer, i forgot to quote you^^. I did test it now. See my post in this thread if you are interested. Thx again for your reply. Original answer:

Thank you very much for your answer. That sounds very reasonalble. Its exactly what my first thought was too. I want to make an addition to what you said. Ults scale with the highest offensive stats and im pretty sure that Ults use the higher of your two crit values. The reason i think this is because ults are designed (imo) to be used by both equaly, stam or mag users. Yes they do eg physical or magical damage, but other then that there is not much difference. In no-cp eg it doesnt make a difference (unless you wear a special set).
After some time thinking this through i tend now more to that this is also the case for skills that use the highest offensive stat. I want to point out, that it is quite possible that im wrong and you are right. I would love to see this tested. Maybe i will test it sometime. One way to test it, would be to do some fights (you need to loose health, so on dummy u would need loose health by some health costing skill eg). And compare combat metrics crit values. In my case i would need to stay on frontbar or backbar to compare.

MindOfTheSwarm wrote: »

It depends on the damage type it inflicts that is all. Take Soul Trap, this will deal Physical or Magic Damage depending on the highest stat. As such it will crit based on your Weapon Crit if it deals Physical Damage or Spell Crit if it deals Magic Damage.
Another example is Dark Shade, this also scales with highest stat. However, it always deals Magic Damage. As such, it only crits based off Spell Crit. Cauterize always crits off Spell Crit too.

Thx for your answer. Thought this at first too. Testing showed different. See above.

silver1surfer69 wrote: »

Ok i did test it now. Using a vamp skill that costs health and slotting fighters guild skill for wp crit.

I was running cauterize over 5:18 min with 63 hits. All hits were on backbar (checked it with showing wp swap in combat metrics).

Spell crit value (backbar): 13,7%
Weapon Crit Value backbar: 24,7%

->Cauterize crit hits: 32% (20/63)

=> That means im very sure Cauterize is using the highest crit value you have, that is in this case weapon crit. Please keep in mind that this testing could be wrong. Running this test over 10 or 15 min would be more accurate, but as conclusion i can say atm that Cauterize is using weapon crit if this is the higher value.

Yep, anything that scales with highest stats will also choose the preferable weapon/spell crit. The only things you have to watch out for with scaling on these skills are champion points for martial/magical damage or status effects, and the fact that damage types remain coupled to their type of physical/spell penetration and use the enemy’s physical/spell resistance (no impact on cauterize since it is a heal, but does affect the flames of oblivion morph).

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

silver1surfer69 wrote: »

Ok i did test it now. Using a vamp skill that costs health and slotting fighters guild skill for wp crit.

I was running cauterize over 5:18 min with 63 hits. All hits were on backbar (checked it with showing wp swap in combat metrics).

Spell crit value (backbar): 13,7%
Weapon Crit Value backbar: 24,7%

->Cauterize crit hits: 32% (20/63)

=> That means im very sure Cauterize is using the highest crit value you have, that is in this case weapon crit. Please keep in mind that this testing could be wrong. Running this test over 10 or 15 min would be more accurate, but as conclusion i can say atm that Cauterize is using weapon crit if this is the higher value.

Yep, anything that scales with highest stats will also choose the preferable weapon/spell crit. The only things you have to watch out for with scaling on these skills are champion points for martial/magical damage or status effects, and the fact that damage types remain coupled to their type of physical/spell penetration and use the enemy’s physical/spell resistance (no impact on cauterize since it is a heal, but does affect the flames of oblivion morph).

Thx for your answer. You are the first one to express this thought - which prooves, as it stands for now, given that my testing is correct - to be right.