Sarenia wrote: »

I'm fairly confident it's a bug.

You can sprint permanently right now, so long as you don't run into anything or fall a long distance on the horse. If sprinting permanently on a horse were intended, they wouldn't have a stamina bar at all I imagine.

So probably safe not to plan around this bug.

The stamina bar as is works to show when you will be knocked off, 0 stamina will knock you off with one hit. There are three mods of speed with just moving, moving while holding shift, and moving while taping shift. It seems very intentional but with that said it seems to make the stamina horse useless in the only area where it could matter, PvP.

No no bug no ... you are imagining things no infinite sprint here shhhhh

Xithian wrote: »

First... Maybe it's just me but I'm pretty sure my horse moves slightly slower after the bar hits zero. Still moving good, but there is a little lurch.

I have not noticed this behavior at all.

The Stamina bar represents the amount of damage you can take while being hit on your horse before you're thrown off. Test this. If your Stamina bar is empty, a single hit will throw you from your horse. It is much more difficult to knock you off when your bar is full. It makes sense to think of it this way, as your stamina bar is instantly full if you throw out a fresh horse.

Just try it, you'll see that it really has nothing to do with the distance it can run.

I don't think it's a bug. I think everyone is just looking at it wrong.

Kyosji wrote: »

The Stamina bar represents the amount of damage you can take while being hit on your horse before you're thrown off. Test this. If your Stamina bar is empty, a single hit will throw you from your horse. It is much more difficult to knock you off when your bar is full. It makes sense to think of it this way, as your stamina bar is instantly full if you throw out a fresh horse.

Just try it, you'll see that it really has nothing to do with the distance it can run.

That's an interesting theory at least. So adding stamina isn't about making your mount sprint for longer but letting you take more hits before falling off (i.e. if you're going to run through a bunch of mobs you want to not have been sprinting).

That certainly seems counter-intuitive with how stamina works in general for our characters, but it's entirely possible you're right.

On the subject of horses, I have a question. I was checking out the horse merchant and noticed the subtle differences between them (speed, stamina, carrying) and I see they are based on bar graphs. Each one is proportional to the next, so to me, it looks like when all is said and done and everything is fully trained, there is actually no difference whatsoever between any of the horses. Is this true? What i mean is this, the common horse for 17,200 gold has 15% speed, 10 stamina, and 0 carry. The light horse for 42,700 gold has 25% speed, 10 stamina, and 0 carry. The difference between the 2 is 10 days worth of training and 2,500 gold. You are only basically paying 15,500 more gold to have a horse at 25% speed right away than if you were to level your standard to the same point.

So, from what I can tell, ALL of the horses, once fully fed, will run at the same speed, have the same carry capacity, and same stamina. Am I wrong?

I may be wrong Kyosji, but I thought that the limitation of horse training was its level, each point you put into an area gives 1 level, and I assume like everything else it's capped at 50.

If this is the case then it'd indicate to me, that players could customise their horses, so one could be a pack mule and be slow, another could be quick but carry very little.

If this is the case, then the 42000~ gold horse gives you 10 'free' points before hitting the level 50 cap, implying that instead of having say 49 points of upgrades before the cap, you have (technically) 59, giving you a (slightly) better horse.

Shimond wrote: »

Kyosji wrote: »

The Stamina bar represents the amount of damage you can take while being hit on your horse before you're thrown off. Test this. If your Stamina bar is empty, a single hit will throw you from your horse. It is much more difficult to knock you off when your bar is full. It makes sense to think of it this way, as your stamina bar is instantly full if you throw out a fresh horse.

Just try it, you'll see that it really has nothing to do with the distance it can run.

That's an interesting theory at least. So adding stamina isn't about making your mount sprint for longer but letting you take more hits before falling off (i.e. if you're going to run through a bunch of mobs you want to not have been sprinting).

That certainly seems counter-intuitive with how stamina works in general for our characters, but it's entirely possible you're right.

It isn't just an interesting theory, it is an accurate one. That is how the system works and I am almost certain it is intentional. I am eagerly awaiting someone to release numbers on how hits with horse stamina works.

I wonder if it is a fixed amount of hits per points put into stamina, which would mean DOT would be the best way to dismount someone or if horses stamina actually has a number and damage numbers are directly impacting this like they do health bars. I am inclined to think that it is the first.

I also feel like there is a 3rd speed between sprinting and regular speed (walking? trotting?); when your stamina runs out but you still have shift pressed.