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Patch Notes Hype or Dread?
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Tyreal1974✭✭✭✭DreadMageCatF4F wrote: »I expect more nerfs. Maybe they will lower the furniture slot limits in housing. Because why not?
LOL! Take an awesome and insert obligatory L2P comment. This was one of the funniest comments I have read today...thanks!1 -
ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭Incoming QQ that peoples crutches are broken.Edited by ClawOfTheTwoMoons on May 3, 2021 3:44PM0
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katorga✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DreadClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »Incoming QQ that peoples crutches are broken.
Lordy. Not only wrecked the procs, they ruined the new Mythics, lol.
Irony, which class is best situated to leverage the new proc model? Sorcerer.0 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭goldenarcher1 wrote: »No crimson nerf.
They've reduced the damage by 44%.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
Ride the paranoia | All life is pain | Only the grave is real2 -
ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »Incoming QQ that peoples crutches are broken.
Lordy. Not only wrecked the procs, they ruined the new Mythics, lol.
Irony, which class is best situated to leverage the new proc model? Sorcerer.
Stop complaining about sorcs. I hate them too but it's very simple to LoS them or use a shield ult to avoid them, also why would you want something as overturned as gaze to make it into the release?1 -
Thannazzar✭✭✭✭✭
✭So patch notes are out:
No substantive changes to companion effectiveness or appearance options.
More or less decided against buying this chapter.5 -
goldenarcher1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »goldenarcher1 wrote: »No crimson nerf.
They've reduced the damage by 44%.
A pleasant surprise indeed.
This patch is a real nerf-orama.1 -
NoxiousBlight✭✭✭✭✭HypeThannazzar wrote: »So patch notes are out:
No substantive changes to companion effectiveness or appearance options.
Sigh. The biggest complaint against companions was that if an AoE so much as tickles them they are dead, resulting in them being dead 90% of the time. But yet all we got was that they will "block incoming blockable attacks more consistently."
All my hype sucked out of me in a single second. Guess next time I will vote for dread.
ZOS please. Companions desperately need base damage reduction.
Also the test of "De-spawning Companions during extreme high population encounters (i.e., Harrowstorms or Dragons)" has me worried. I hope it doesn't go live. Or at least make it so they only de-spawn if 10+ players are around. I was really looking forward to being able to solo dragons with my companion. Although as it is now that won't happen anyway since they will be taking a dirt nap within 10 seconds of engaging a dragon.7 -
JerBearESO✭✭✭✭DreadSo they are going to limp this scaling procs thing along.... So sad. Favorite game just died, and so too did my ESO+5
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Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It’s still unbelievable that the threshold for Weapon and Spell damage is still the same.
Does ZOS even play the game? Like honestly. Stamina already has the better tools, weapon skill lines and defensive capabilities in PvP and now their proc sets hit harder on top of that because Medium Armor just grants them way more Weapon Damage?
Balance team, hello?PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -5 -
DarcyMardin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DreadNot much to be happy for regarding Companions’ effectiveness. Supposedly they will block better — I’ll believe it when I see it. No increased mitigation or better DPS. /sigh2 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭DreadSeraphayel wrote: »It’s still unbelievable that the threshold for Weapon and Spell damage is still the same.
Does ZOS even play the game? Like honestly. Stamina already has the better tools, weapon skill lines and defensive capabilities in PvP and now their proc sets hit harder on top of that because Medium Armor just grants them way more Weapon Damage?
Balance team, hello?
Light armor spell pen largely equalizes the damage dealt.
You can't just look at a single stat in a vacuum.“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”4 -
tripp✭✭✭DreadThey're killing build diversity. This isn't just a "no preorder/buy" scenario, this is an uninstall scenario.big, green, buff, but surprisingly not the Hulk4 -
neferpitou73✭✭✭✭✭
✭HypeI'm hyped for the spectacle of the dumpster fire the patch will bring to pvp.
Although if it actually comes out alright I'll give them credit. But I have my doubts.0 -
xylena_lazarow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Dread
There's going to be a small handful of broken PvP builds that stomp everything else. At least with the nerfs to Crimson and Gaze of Sithis, they've shown they're willing to try to fix it.ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »How are they killing build diversity? Proc cyro is coming back so if anything, they're expanding it.PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP metas2 -
ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭xylena_lazarow wrote: »
There's going to be a small handful of broken PvP builds that stomp everything else. At least with the nerfs to Crimson and Gaze of Sithis, they've shown they're willing to try to fix it.ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »How are they killing build diversity? Proc cyro is coming back so if anything, they're expanding it.
Oh I was being facetious, I love the nerfs they've done to these procs. It'll make pvp bearable till no proc comes back.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, they should invert proc scaling. The thresholds now are just benefiting the players with the best gear, highest CP etc. It will create a bigger gap than before.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -4 -
tripp✭✭✭DreadClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »How are they killing build diversity? Proc cyro is coming back so if anything, they're expanding it.
PVP is played by a very vocal minority. In PVE, which is where the biggest chunk of the playerbase resides, they're killing builds that aren't 100% dedicated to dps/heals/tanking, which removes nearly all fun aspects the game had to offer. I reckon ZOS will change the slogan to "Play Our Way" when Blackwood hits.big, green, buff, but surprisingly not the Hulk8 -
Anonx31st✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »goldenarcher1 wrote: »No crimson nerf.
They've reduced the damage by 44%.
Not only was the crimson set damaged nerfed by 44%, but sets that use Health now require 43,968 to reach their original values, up from 38,350, resulting in approximately a 13% reduction. So that's a 58% dmg nerf is using the regular health requirement values.0 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »How are they killing build diversity? Proc cyro is coming back so if anything, they're expanding it.
PVP is played by a very vocal minority. In PVE, which is where the biggest chunk of the playerbase resides, they're killing builds that aren't 100% dedicated to dps/heals/tanking, which removes nearly all fun aspects the game had to offer. I reckon ZOS will change the slogan to "Play Our Way" when Blackwood hits.
Let’s be honest here though: where in PvE do you need these builds? They’re mostly not good enough for veteran content and in normal content you really don’t recognize the nerfs because it’s so easy.
These changes only really affect you in PvP and, if you really used this niche builds, in hardcore PvE.PS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
Anonx31st✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »ClawOfTheTwoMoons wrote: »How are they killing build diversity? Proc cyro is coming back so if anything, they're expanding it.
PVP is played by a very vocal minority. In PVE, which is where the biggest chunk of the playerbase resides, they're killing builds that aren't 100% dedicated to dps/heals/tanking, which removes nearly all fun aspects the game had to offer. I reckon ZOS will change the slogan to "Play Our Way" when Blackwood hits.
Let’s be honest here though: where in PvE do you need these builds? They’re mostly not good enough for veteran content and in normal content you really don’t recognize the nerfs because it’s so easy.
These changes only really affect you in PvP and, if you really used this niche builds, in hardcore PvE.
These new tanking sets helped tanks in PvE (where ZOS gets most of their money from) not have to spend money to respec every time they wanted to solo content. Now, if ZOS starts nerfing all the new tanking sets on PTR then this is just going make people not want to switch over to play tank to help with the tank shortage.2 -
tripp✭✭✭Dreadxylena_lazarow wrote: »
They are the reason these got implemented in the first place, because "proc meta cyro wasn't fun". Now the game isn't going to be fun for anyone, seeing how they doubled down on these changes.big, green, buff, but surprisingly not the Hulk1 -
Tethilia✭✭✭DreadWithout either a supporting alteration to either Vampires or Ring of the Pale Order, Togglevamps are still removed from endgame content. I would rather have us balanced, not kicked out.0 -
ClawOfTheTwoMoons✭✭✭✭xylena_lazarow wrote: »
Yup, I pvp and pve, don't get mad at pvpers get mad at zos for not separating balance via battle spirit, and once again you can still "play your way".2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DreadPatch notes after the first week of PTS are ALWAYS a dread day since it usually only means nerfs, nerfs, and more nerfs.5 -
Choucroute✭✭✭DreadI keep hoping they'll undo some of those changes... I'm especially annoyed by the nerf to Energy Orb (healing orb) as it took a nerf shot for no reason.
They also dared to say:
Ah ? STRONGER ? When on average it heals for less than half compared to the other skills ? And it only moves in a straight line slowly when all the other healing skills can be moved whenever, wherever and at a distance ?Healing Orbs (morph): Increased the healing per tick of this morph by approximately 38%. This will result in less total healing overall but will still be stronger than most other AoE HoTs due to its mobile nature.
Templar's Extended Ritual has the same kinds of restrictions as Energy Orb but is a lot wider, and despite the fact it heals only every two seconds it currently outheals Orb on the PTS...
I see people struggling to heal on live with our current overpowered Orb, I can't imagine if Orb becomes such a useless heal.
I'm so tired of healers being nerfed because ZOS doesn't know how to deal with the damage done by DPS.
Healers lost crit, they'll lose some more, and now one of their best heals is also nerfed.
Just because ZOS is stubbornly nerfing all the DPS left and right when the reason score pushing and skipping mechanics in a trial is a thing is mostly because of the incredibly OP debuffing sets, not the raw damage of DPS.
You'd think they could figure out as much by comparing the parses on the Trial Dummy vs the non-debuffed Dummies.4
