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Tanks, what's the most annoying thing players do when you are tanking for random groups?
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josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭When some DPS tries to race me to aggro all the mobs. I give them 3 mobs, if they continue to jump in before I have a chance to implement crowd control, I will simply leave the group...there is no need for me to put up with it. If they feel they don't need a tank, I am more than happy to oblige them and find a group that does.3 -
KinnikuBeam✭✭✭PVP players who come with pvp set (sword+shield, two handed weapon) they have no dps,no resistance and die a lot.
And when you tell us somethings, they answer : stfu or other beautiful word like that3 -
KinnikuBeam✭✭✭Other big disturb things : When you play with magicka dd with Maw of the infernal, this ****** Daedroth come anytime in front of me, and after when they use their ultimate thunder Atronach, you have 3 Daedroth and 3 Atronach in front of you ! I love it !2
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jle30303✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't normally mind Maw of the Infernal Daedroths... UNLESS I am tanking hard mode Vet BC 2. The number of times I've tried to taunt the wrong daedroth...
(Also, "You should pull all the daedroths away from the rest of the group and let us handle the boss"... No, your DPS and your coordination aren't good enough for that, you've proved that in the rest of the dungeon. So for the first half of the boss fight we'll do this the conventional way, I'll tank Rilis, pull the daedroths in, and they will die in the AOE plus my own attacks on them because I can take down a daedroth just quick enough before the next one arrives, I'll leave the fight when I judge there's enough time for three more daedroths to spawn before the end of it. Gets things done faster and more efficiently than trying to tank nine daedroths at once.)
Racers who run ahead, through trash groups, to get to the next boss. Whether they kill that boss and leave it unlootable for the rest of us (which is an instant kick vote from me) or die to it (in which case I leave them dead till the rest of the group has fought through the trash to reach the boss).
Rule #1: If you pull it, you tank it. If you can't tank it, too bad.
Rule #2: You may have ten tons of stamina and be able to outrun everything. I don't, because I have low stamina and high health, and am spending most of my stam on blocking and chaining, so I simply can't race through crowds. Kill things as we go, and it will actually take less time.
Rule #3: *I* will make the judgement on how fast we race through the dungeon, and how big a crowd of trash to aggro, and whether we try to bring in two groups at once or stick with one group at a time, based on how fast I see you take down the first group. If you're too slow with the first group, or if somebody dies to trash (there is no AOE taunt so I can't hold full aggro on everything, but you should be able to handle trash), then we don't take on more than we can handle.4 -
LalMirchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭When some DPS tries to race me to aggro all the mobs. I give them 3 mobs, if they continue to jump in before I have a chance to implement crowd control, I will simply leave the group...there is no need for me to put up with it. If they feel they don't need a tank, I am more than happy to oblige them and find a group that does.
This is how I tank right now.4 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Run pet builds. I can’t taunt through your daedroth. I can’t see when I need to dodge or block when you drop your atronach on top of me. I can’t chain in adds with your flappy bird in the way.
Pet builds were already on my list of annoyances when tanking. After I pugged for a group with two pet sorcs, both running Maw of course, I now absolutely detest them. I immediately bail on a group when I join a random dungeon and see a twilight now.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche4 -
phileunderx2✭✭✭✭✭
✭The superstar wannabes that run ahead and pull everything are the worst no matter what role I'm playing. Lost count the number of them that my group of 3 have kicked after we have asked them to slow down.
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Anonx31st✭✭✭Another thing is when I am gathering mobs as a tank and the DPS who currently has aggro on a couple of them start running away out of taunt/pull range and now I am chasing around the DPS to gather them up as well.3
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭a player that in some way uses "Dragon Knight" and "only real tanks" in a sentence.
Usually it is after they died doing something stupid.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."2 -
Anonx31st✭✭✭a player that in some way uses "Dragon Knight" and "only real tanks" in a sentence.
Usually it is after they died doing something stupid.
Agreed. I have 7 tanks (and one of each class). I tank pugs every day. I learned for the majority of content, a Dragon Knight isn't the only class that is viable as long as you know what you are doing with the right skills/gear.0 -
cyclonus11✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Another thing is when I am gathering mobs as a tank and the DPS who currently has aggro on a couple of them start running away out of taunt/pull range and now I am chasing around the DPS to gather them up as well.
Actual scenario:
3 of us zone in - 2 DPS and me, the tank. Healer is still loading in, and one of the DPS takes of running into the first group of mobs. We just wait and watch, and he dies.
He says: "Oops! Forgot this was vet."4 -
CaffeinatedMayhem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Running ahead.
#1 - it's just plain rude. If you wanted to solo the dungeon, don't group!
#2 - If you want all the adds grouped up nicely, the tank can do that, and yes I DO know the LOS for all those pulls, so let me do my job! If you can't handle the groups being "not your way"... just queue as a tank.
#3 - you aggro it, you tank it. I'm not saving you from death only to have a badly positioned boss. If you don't need/want a tank, don't group with one.
TLDR: Don't use GROUP FINDER if you don't want to play WITH A GROUP.3 -
CaffeinatedMayhem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭When some DPS tries to race me to aggro all the mobs. I give them 3 mobs, if they continue to jump in before I have a chance to implement crowd control, I will simply leave the group...there is no need for me to put up with it. If they feel they don't need a tank, I am more than happy to oblige them and find a group that does.
This is how I tank right now.
This is why I hate running pledges with finder. If it's clear the rest of the group only wants me there for the last boss I'll drop and just insta-queue later. If the group really didn't need a tank, they won't even notice. If the group did really need a tank, maybe they'll think twice before leaving the tank in the dust and killing the boss while I'm still bogged down with adds.2 -
nryerson1025✭✭✭✭In large trash pulls, a dps can get aggro by one or a few mobs and instead of running to the mob pack where I can easily bring them into the clump, they run in the opposite direction, backpedaling and afraid of the trash mob.
Any boss mechanic that leaps to the player furthest away if past a certain distance and the same person keeps causing it to leap at them over and over and is not looking at chat1 -
cyclonus11✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I hate it when the dungeon I'm farming is one of the pledges.
YEE HAW LET'S GO GO GO GO SKIP ALL SIDE BOSSES AND CHESTS WOOOOOOO2 -
Tethilia✭✭✭For me when tanking pugs it is when players think because they are getting attacked by the boss, it's because I am not holding aggro. For example, today in my veteran Spindlecluth I pug, I had a player become very toxic towards me with messages because they were getting randomly attacked by the spider boss. I tried to explain that I am using the addon untaunted to keep 100% aggro but for the spider boss mechanics the boss does random attacks to the group players even though the tank has taunted the boss and currently holds aggro lol.
Why is this untauntable mob attacking me? Ugh! Learn to play like a radioactive powerranger wearing a bucket on their head!0 -
Tethilia✭✭✭So based off tanking a bunch of Bloodroot Forge as a pledge...
Holy hell for the love of the divines please interrupt interrupt interrupt interrupt interrupt interrupt interrupt interrupt.
I'm getting so annoyed by all these players who do not know how to interrupt.
How can someone be CP 810+ and not know how to interrupt?
That's the other DPS's job, not mine.
Also what does that little red helmet and sword mean at the bottom of my screen?Edited by Tethilia on April 30, 2021 2:12AM3 -
Tethilia✭✭✭As a sidenote, I formally apologize to all the poor tanks who had to deal with me back in the day using that Daedroth.0
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Stokowski✭✭✭I had no idea the positioning of the Atronach Ult could cause such headaches.
Oh well, lesson learned.0 -
JB_den✭✭✭I have no AOE taunt so I expect the dps and heals to hold their own against the adds in a boss fight, while I hold the boss agro. Sometimes they can't (usually it's the dps) and it's automatically the tanks fault for not bringing in the adds. Yeah, no.1
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Avoranti✭✭✭✭✭Queue as the wrong role then pull aggro before the tank gets to the enemy. Then they die and blame the tank.0
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JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭Looks like most everything has been mentioned! LOL. What I dislike the most is when I am not the Tank and the Tank is a DK that never uses chains, never uses Talons and uses Leap to bust up the mobs.
Like...really?1 -
JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭magnusthorek wrote: »Imagine him fighting Sellistrix in Arx Corinium
Eh, not that hard. Soloed it Vet hard mode.0 -
JanTanhide✭✭✭✭✭
✭When some DPS tries to race me to aggro all the mobs. I give them 3 mobs, if they continue to jump in before I have a chance to implement crowd control, I will simply leave the group...there is no need for me to put up with it. If they feel they don't need a tank, I am more than happy to oblige them and find a group that does.
This is how I tank right now.
Yep. Agree.0 -
Septimus_Magna✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭"You should pull all the daedroths away from the rest of the group and let us handle the boss"...
Haha, this is so relatable! I usually end up tanking 8 or 9 Daedroths before everyone wipes or the boss is killed.
PC - EU (AD)Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer1 -
LettuceBrain✭✭✭It is weird seeing all these tanks on the forum. On Xbox NA I don't think tanks exist anymore. I play the healer and aggro is on me nonstop.they/them/theirs0 -
I'm sitting at CP 620ish atm and I've been tanking almost non-stop since I started playing again a month ago. It's funny to read all these responses so far as I haven't encountered many of these yet, such as the quizzing of gear I was wearing or other qualifiers.
Yet my biggest pet peeve is definitely related to speedunners.
Oh boy.
I'm sick of them.
As a tank I try and keep a pretty brisk pace, but if someone is new to the dungeon or needs to do a quest, I'll slow it down. I'll take shortcuts when need be and I'll keep an eye out for chests or heavy sacks. I don't like having my time wasted, so I try and not waste others if it isn't necessary.
What I absolute cannot stand are CP 1000+ jerkwads whose only talent appears to be pressing down the W key non-stop and if you can't keep up, too bad.
As was already mentioned, normal dungeon runs are absolutely filled to the brim with these elitist turds. They actively will ruin the dungeon for every one else just to save themselves (in their own minds) a couple minutes. This mindset of, "Press W, dump all AoEs, BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR... repeat." is a cancer on modern MMO culture and, as a tank, I really despise it even more because it's almost always some self important DPS that is the culprit.
I've more or less sworn off normal dungeons at this point and mostly do veteran dungeons. Not only is the atmosphere (mostly) better, but obviously the gear is worth it as well. However, you still will encounter this wonderful people even in veteran dungeons and it grinds my gears even more.
In short, slow down and let everyone do their jobs. A tank pulls, does CC, and sets the group's pace. Don't like it? Go sit in queue for another hour for all I care. There's no shortage of eager DPS to take your impatient ass's place.
P.S.
Healers, please don't pull. I've encountered these gems a few times before too. Just stop.
It's hilarious to me that it's always the "elitists" at fault. Their time doesn't matter. They should cater to the "casuals" and let people do what they want to enjoy the game. But the "elitists" aren't allowed to enjoy the game or do what they want.
Don't like it? Go queue with friends/guild members for all I care.
I'd rather have these "speedrunners" than be doing 80% of group DPS when I'm tanking, which is truly insufferable.2 -
deleted221106-002999✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭In addition to others mentioned:
Not waiting if I need to change gear/swap skills but charging ahead anyway preventing me from making necessary changes.
This is tougher if I've accepted the group but didn't switch from overland gear before hand. But that situation is arguably on me.
But it is kind of annoying when x-gear and y-skills are better than your current for a particular situation but, despite calling out the desire to change sometimes well in advance, gung-ho & co wade in anyway.
edit: 2 letters filtered, huh?Edited by deleted221106-002999 on April 30, 2021 3:20PM2
