Maintenance for the week of April 13:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 13
Update 50 is now available for testing on the PTS! You can read the latest patch notes here: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/pts
We really can't do direfrost alone huh
-
CaffeinatedMayhem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭RIP groups who just wanted to use a companion in AA to stand on a pad...10 -
VaxtinTheWolf✭✭✭✭✭That means I cant warp myself inside of the Transmutation Station Orb anymore either. As for that dungeon; You cant rely on a random either if their only job is to activate the plates for you. Now they can't leave because if a group is disbanded for any reason, it closes the instance, even if it's not formed with the group finder.|| AD - Rah'Jiin Lv50 Khajiit Nightblade (Damage) || EP - Generic Argonian Lv50 Argonian Nightblade (Tank) || DC - Zinkotsu Lv50 Breton Nightblade (Healer) ||
|| DC - Ja'Kiro Feral-Heart Lv50 Khajiit Dragonknight (Damage) || EP - VaxtinTheWolf Lv50 Redguard Templar (Tank) || AD - Velik Iranis Lv50 Dark Elf Sorcerer (Tank ) ||
|| EP - Einvarg The Frozen Lv50 Nord Warden (Tank/Healer) || EP - Keem-Ja Lv4 Argonian Necromancer (Healer/Tank) ||PC - North American Server (Champion 1300+)4 -
JerBearESO✭✭✭✭
every dungeon should be designed so that it can potentially be solo'd. really hate the mechanics where you die if you don't have an ally to free you from the 1 shot mechanic. and now we fully lose direfrost? sad timesEdited by JerBearESO on April 26, 2021 7:47PM14 -
Tommy_The_Gun✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, so if next time I will get stuck in the floor or inside a wall in Cyro (cuz, you know, it is normal
) I wont be able to get out... 
Bad change...1 -
Anonx31st✭✭✭JerBearESO wrote: »every dungeon should be designed so that it can potentially be solo'd. really hate the mechanics where you die if you don't have an ally to free you from the 1 shot mechanic. and now we fully lose direfrost? sad times
I disagree. Dungeons were designed as 4 player content. However, content like maelstrom arena is designed to be soloed.
2 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JerBearESO wrote: »every dungeon should be designed so that it can potentially be solo'd. really hate the mechanics where you die if you don't have an ally to free you from the 1 shot mechanic. and now we fully lose direfrost? sad times
I disagree. Dungeons were designed as 4 player content. However, content like maelstrom arena is designed to be soloed.
They shouldn't be making it 4 player content by contrived mechanics that have nothing to do with player skill. If a player is so good at the game they can solo, that shouldn't be punished with arbitrary decisions.18 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can you no longer Magnum Shot yourself through the gates behind the pressure plates?0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You know, I used to resent Lydia. Useless housecarl who blocks doorways, I thought.
Then I met Bastian and Mirri.
Lydia carries my burdens, knows not to stand around in flaming oil puddles, and can step on pressure plates.16 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I wasn't surprised that they'll be mostly for RP, at least in this iteration...
I was. They explicitly stated that we'd be able to do some dungeons solo with them but apparently they can't even handle the easiest dungeon in the game. Someone created a whole writeup abour them struggling in fungal grotto...
FG is so easily done that the developers actually put in-game dialogue about how much of a joke that place is during the Undaunted festival. I wasn't expecting to be able to like VSCP HM or anything but I was expecting the really basic functionality that they marketed, which was that it would expand the dungeons at least some of us were able to solo.
Now they can't actually handle even the most basic mechs nor even step on a pressure plate. And on top of that they changed the way a skill work just to take away a dungeon we could solo. And yes, I'm aware that's not the only reason or even most pressing.
It's just quite lame to me that the patch that was theoretically supposed to increase what we could do alone actually decreased it. Nerfs to champion points, rework of a skill so it can't be used to bypass such a pointless mech, and no real benefit to companions for anyone. Great.
Edited by spartaxoxo on April 26, 2021 10:42PM13 -
SirLeeMinion✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Nerfed nightblade being only class able to solo haha. Oh well
If you are dead set on soloing, you can still use Sorc's streak to leave them map, run around on the outside, and enter back in at Drodda's Dreadlord. It's fun to do it once, but generally not worth the effort.0 -
ealdwin✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »I wasn't surprised that they'll be mostly for RP, at least in this iteration...
I was. They explicitly stated that we'd be able to do some dungeons solo with them but apparently they can't even handle the easiest dungeon in the game. Someone created a whole writeup abour them struggling in fungal grotto...
FG is so easily done that the developers actually put in-game dialogue about how much of a joke that place is during the Undaunted festival. I wasn't expecting to be able to like VSCP HM or anything but I was expecting the really basic functionality that they marketed, which was that it would expand the dungeons at least some of us were able to solo.
Now they can't actually handle even the most basic mechs nor even step on a pressure plate. And on top of that they changed the way a skill work just to take away a dungeon we could solo. And yes, I'm aware that's not the only reason or even most pressing.
It's just quite lame to me that the patch that was theoretically supposed to increase what we could do alone actually decreased it. Nerfs to champion points, rework of a skill so it can't be used to bypass such a pointless mech, and no real benefit to companions for anyone. Great.
Maybe they should just let Companions in Cyrodiil after all... that way we could all stand in a circle and place bets as our Bastion and Mirri clones duke it out slowly.
I've got 20 gold on a DC Mirri and an EP Bastion being the last two standing!6 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SirLeeMinion wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »Nerfed nightblade being only class able to solo haha. Oh well
If you are dead set on soloing, you can still use Sorc's streak to leave them map, run around on the outside, and enter back in at Drodda's Dreadlord. It's fun to do it once, but generally not worth the effort.
Eh. That feels significantly more exploitative than just using a skill that moved you to a target location. I haven't even done it tbh. So I wouldn't do that either.
For me, it's just moreso the principle for me because I preordered with promising talks of soloing more stuff. I actually suspected I wasn't gonna be able to solo anything more because I'm already good at soloing a lot of stuff. But the dream was there.
But instead it's like the whole patch is about making it worse to solo not better. I at least expected to be in a neutral position....so this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.Edited by spartaxoxo on April 26, 2021 11:08PM2 -
butterrum222✭✭✭I’ve solo’d it by gap closing to the troll after getting him to come closer to the door then gap closing into the boss in the next room0 -
SirLeeMinion✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »... instead it's like the whole patch is about making it worse to solo not better. I at least expected to be in a neutral position....
Agreed. I stopped pre-ordering a while back and now have just stopped ordering. I've got the PTS installed and have been meaning to see if I can pull a random with two accounts and two companions. But after the initial reports of terrible companion performance I haven't even bothered to try.
5 -
XvarleyX✭✭✭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abt16FCsGw8&t=19s
20k people watched this video and i was rubbish with tags and self promotion, so they were looking for it. Instead of removing the pressure plates from the instance, ZOS instead 'fixes' it multiple times so it can't be soloed efficiently.
(ps not a plug for my channel it is deader then dead!)1 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abt16FCsGw8&t=19s
20k people watched this video and i was rubbish with tags and self promotion, so they were looking for it. Instead of removing the pressure plates from the instance, ZOS instead 'fixes' it multiple times so it can't be soloed efficiently.
(ps not a plug for my channel it is deader then dead!)
Yeah. The dumb plates are really the only limiting factor3 -
robpr✭✭✭✭✭
✭JerBearESO wrote: »every dungeon should be designed so that it can potentially be solo'd. really hate the mechanics where you die if you don't have an ally to free you from the 1 shot mechanic. and now we fully lose direfrost? sad times
I agree, even if most of them can be bypassed using Precognition morph of Undo. These pressure plates are dumb.1 -
pdebie64b16_ESO✭✭✭Why do some 4 ppl dungeons have lame mechanics like Direfrost and others not what prevents them from soloing?
I can queue up for Direfrost but if it is not a daily i can wait forever, while i can solo normal mode easy. Currently the only reason i go there is to farm the Ice Furnice set in the right traits, still you can do the first 3 bosses and find one chest but its pretty hard to find jewelry or weapons this way.2 -
ghost_bg_ESO✭✭✭✭thanks for reminder to finally get that wall decoration(trophy) on live and to find out i'm not good enough on my NB for last boss on vet.0