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ESO, destined to end up on Steam's f2p list to die a slow death ?
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Gwarok✭✭✭
I was in Shadowfen yesterday evening looking for Skyshard #15 (Black Maw) and got to witness a Game Master swing round his/her [Mighty Ban Hammer] and it was pretty awesome!!! I just got done with that one and messed around with the bots a few times using Infinity Chains to yank the end mob away from the bots (ended up with 3 Soul Stones and was hoping for a nice blue dagger or axe but I'm not complaining) standing there looking like stuck on stupid. (Unfortunately it was an open room so there wasn't anyplace to lure the bots into a place where they would become "stuck behind something".) Got bored sent a report in and it wasn't 3-5 minutes and the Game Master announced he/she was coming through with their [Mighty Ban Hammer] so I pulled up a /chair and waited for the fun to begin. It was really epic.Edited by Gwarok on April 25, 2014 3:05PM"Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade
"I am ALWAYS very busy, so I KNOW what's best. You need to stay away from the waterfall. TRUST ME, you're better off keeping busy than playing in the stream....Do you know how to swim, Little Scrib?"
"I am but a simple farmer". -Rags'nar LodesBroke
#SKOOMA!
(Juliet):
...it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man.
O, be some other name!
What's in a name?
That which we call a rose?
By any other name would smell as sweet.
Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
(Act II, Scene II -William Shakespeare's: Romeo & Juliet -1595 A.D.)0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts✭✭✭oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Whats that mean ? Are you making threats to my personal well being ?oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »T
. I'm glad the internet allows you to make a scene without any personal implications to your dust up.
It means that you can lie down on the ground and kick you feet and cry and whine on the internet and nobody cares. In the general public, this is frowned upon, because in society we try to be civilized individuals all working within a norm.
The people who get in to arguments with companies over trivial things just waste a lot of time and energy for everyone and think that their self serving ways are justified because they have a greater sense of self entitlement then the general masses.
Basically your human nature causes you to be resist the idea that something made for the generic public could ever be good enough for your own personalized tastes/liking/opinions.
Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Exactly.
Why would you change my quote ?0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts✭✭✭
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
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Schmackei✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Whats that mean ? Are you making threats to my personal well being ?oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »T
. I'm glad the internet allows you to make a scene without any personal implications to your dust up.
It means that you can lie down on the ground and kick you feet and cry and whine on the internet and nobody cares. In the general public, this is frowned upon, because in society we try to be civilized individuals all working within a norm.
The people who get in to arguments with companies over trivial things just waste a lot of time and energy for everyone and think that their self serving ways are justified because they have a greater sense of self entitlement then the general masses.
Basically your human nature causes you to be resist the idea that something made for the generic public could ever be good enough for your own personalized tastes/liking/opinions.
Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Exactly.
Why would you change my quote ?
Wow, really? You are going to play that card, there are more than enough of us on this forum that saw what you wrote before you edited it. Just look at the time stamp of when he posted your quote and when you edited yours.0 -
AlexDougherty✭✭✭✭✭
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Didn't change it, exactly, just removed the quotes within quote, because if you don't you end up with quotes five levels deep.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Not sure why you keep changing my quote.
People believe what they either want to be true or what they are afraid is true!
Wizard's first rule
Passion rules reason
Wizard's third rule
Mind what people Do, not what they say, for actions betray a lie.
Wizard's fifth rule
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self
Wizard's tenth rule0 -
Oblongship✭✭✭✭oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Whats that mean ? Are you making threats to my personal well being ?oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »T
. I'm glad the internet allows you to make a scene without any personal implications to your dust up.
It means that you can lie down on the ground and kick you feet and cry and whine on the internet and nobody cares. In the general public, this is frowned upon, because in society we try to be civilized individuals all working within a norm.
The people who get in to arguments with companies over trivial things just waste a lot of time and energy for everyone and think that their self serving ways are justified because they have a greater sense of self entitlement then the general masses.
Basically your human nature causes you to be resist the idea that something made for the generic public could ever be good enough for your own personalized tastes/liking/opinions.
Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Exactly.
Back a few pages you will see my post calling the OP out for doing this exact thing.
He has been doing it for 2 days now...
Makes a thread complaining about the game and then ignores any evidence proving him wrong, flames anyone who disagrees with them and then threatens to report them.
He did this in a thread yesterday then had the nerve to tell everyone he felt bullied after acting like a bulldog to anyone who proved him wrong.1 -
KidKablam✭✭✭I've been called a "fanboy" or even worse a "fanboii" on these forums for making fun of the whiner posts, but I really do avoid posts that have two qualities: constructive criticism and originality. Either of the two would keep me from commenting and maybe even get an "agree" from me, even though I genuinely enjoy the game and have had few problems that I couldn't fix myself or that a GM didn't jump to fix.
It's obvious that the game isn't perfect at this juncture and probably could have used some more time in the oven. Further, I think the beta tests and the questions we received during the beta test "framed" the test in such a way that the staff were made to focus on problems they were already expecting at the cost of making them more vulnerable to the problems they weren't expecting at all and those are the sorts of unforeseen things that can be most disastrous to ignore.
That being said, let me tell you a little bit about myself: I work in the service industry so I know a lot about how unhappy customers treat the innocent servants that are in the crossfire when they can't get what they want. So when I get home from being the proverbial dog that gets kicked and I see posts where people take out their frustration on the staff it sets my teeth on edge.
No amount of barking at the poor people who are paid to read your crap is going to get what you want faster. You can either assume there are forces at work to fix the game (as I like to believe) or you can believe they're laughing and counting your money. I can assure you that anyone who reads these forums has nothing to do with it either way.
So be constructive or go home.
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Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.Toktok - Vet8 Orc Templar - 2 Hand, Medium/Heavy Armor Grunt - Blacksmith/Clothier/Enchanter/Alchemist0 -
Hadria✭✭✭✭Oblongship wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Whats that mean ? Are you making threats to my personal well being ?oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »T
. I'm glad the internet allows you to make a scene without any personal implications to your dust up.
It means that you can lie down on the ground and kick you feet and cry and whine on the internet and nobody cares. In the general public, this is frowned upon, because in society we try to be civilized individuals all working within a norm.
The people who get in to arguments with companies over trivial things just waste a lot of time and energy for everyone and think that their self serving ways are justified because they have a greater sense of self entitlement then the general masses.
Basically your human nature causes you to be resist the idea that something made for the generic public could ever be good enough for your own personalized tastes/liking/opinions.
Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Exactly.
Back a few pages you will see my post calling the OP out for doing this exact thing.
He has been doing it for 2 days now...
Makes a thread complaining about the game and then ignores any evidence proving him wrong, flames anyone who disagrees with them and then threatens to report them.
He did this in a thread yesterday then had the nerve to tell everyone he felt bullied after acting like a bulldog to anyone who proved him wrong.
I read those it's quite funny actually just look back a few posts on here he's doing the same thing and refuses to listen.0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts✭✭✭oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !Edited by Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts on April 25, 2014 2:58PM0 -
Hadria✭✭✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
And we wish people like you woulda stop with these completely pointless threads about *** you already know they're working on and trying to turn people away.0 -
Schmackei✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
Or, when something doesn't go your way, spend a week acting selfish and immature on a forum flaming everyone out until you feel victimized over your own actions and the feedback those actions brought to light.Edited by Schmackei on April 25, 2014 3:01PM0 -
Paske✭✭✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »....Eso has so much potential yet its being tossed away but the very company that made the game. Why ?
Because 15 yo kids are having a hard time understanding how real world works.
Zos is actually taking many steps in right direction to adress all of these issues. Fact remains it takes time, weeks or days at least, not hours.
But to be capable of understanding this you simply need wisdom that comes with experience and age. Looking at your nickname it is safe to assume you are between 15 and 18 years old. So simply unable to comprehend what is needed to adress issues such as those you have mentioned.
Don't take it as an insult. Its simply state of matters. No ones fault. Simply age and experience give understanding of broader picture. Youth usually yells and dramatizes over minor problems.0 -
KidKablam✭✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
You're a piece of work.
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Oblongship✭✭✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
You are no neighbor of mine and you are the one attack anyone who doesn't agree with you and competently ignoring the *** of evidence proving you wrong.
Just throwing it out there everyone...I called it!!!
He is gonna start his "Everyone is bullying me...poor me" tactic when really he is the one bulldogging everyone who disagrees with his quite literally insane logic.1 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
I'm not American or blaming you for anything. I personally enjoy the game. I guess the same can be said for you, I wish you'd spend more time making the game better, then creating these threads that serve zero purpose. When in doubt, blame yourself. Nobody else here to blame other then yourself for creating this thread that was only going to lead down one road. Take a look in the mirror, sit down and create a thread that will actually serve a purpose.
Edit: I keep typing server when I want to write serve lol
Edited by oxygen_boarderb16_ESO on April 25, 2014 3:03PMToktok - Vet8 Orc Templar - 2 Hand, Medium/Heavy Armor Grunt - Blacksmith/Clothier/Enchanter/Alchemist0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts✭✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
Or, when something doesn't go your way, spend a week acting selfish and immature on a forum flaming everyone out until you feel victimized over your own actions and the feedback those actions brought to light.
Yep, are you American by any chance?
I'm talking about the company that should be providing me with good customer service, and you attack me personally like i spit on you cat or something . So what youre saying is invalid and has no place here.0 -
KidKablam✭✭✭Nah. I flagged him when he started the anti-American chatter, so I'm guessing he's going to get real quiet now or this thread will just get shut down.0
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dobrt✭Just a thought here......if the best counter argument to those that point out this game is ill prepared to ask for subscriptions is: "all the other MMO's had/have these problems and Zenimax are constantly working on it....", well lets look at it this way......If these issues (Bots, spammers, etc.) have been in prior MMO's (stay with me here)...and this title is an MMO....(it's coming)....then why didn't someone from Zenimax research the problems, arrive at solutions, and implement them prior (OMG! that makes sense) to the release......
On a positive note though.....I'll agree that there is an effort by Zenimax to combat the multitude of bugs, bots, spammers, trolls, and glitches.......unfortunately the efforts appear to be similar to that of bailing out a flooded ship with a shot glass......(for those born during and after the Nintendo generation).....similar to only being allowed to play your game 2 minutes per day.0 -
Oblongship✭✭✭✭Nah. I flagged him when he started the anti-American chatter, so I'm guessing he's going to get real quiet now or this thread will just get shut down.
Considering he made a thread complaining about getting a 3 day ban I hope this is his final strike and he is gone for good!
Also I flagged him too.0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Botters, exploiters, constant gold spammers, and community flamers who will verbally abuse you openly in forums if you bring up issues like this. This game has them all in abundance. Just like many of the other games that have ended up an Steam's free to play menu. As I would hate to see this happen, ESO really needs to take an active part in the game community and make some changes quickly.
Honestly , these issues aren't being addresses to the satisfaction of the people that pay to play this game. Why ?
Eso has so much potential yet its being tossed away but the very company that made the game. Why ?
Sorry what? your original post has nothing to do with your "new" apparent concerns. You attack the "company" and then say, "why aren't you helping me when I create these flame threads".
Get a clue.
Toktok - Vet8 Orc Templar - 2 Hand, Medium/Heavy Armor Grunt - Blacksmith/Clothier/Enchanter/Alchemist0 -
Schmackei✭✭Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »
Not sure why you keep changing my quote.AlexDougherty wrote: »
Flag away, his points were valid, although not complementary.Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Ty for adding absolutely zero value to the topic of the thread, flagged.
Doubt the Mods will do anything.
You edited yourself. If we quote before the edit, it shows the original. Everyone knows what you are for face value, and what your true purpose is.
Cheers. I feel better after downing troll boss. Going to go do something else now.
Wish people like you would spend as much energy into making the game a better place as you do attacking your fellow gamers. its make no sense that your behave in that way. But then again its the American mentality, when in doubt blame your neighbor !
Or, when something doesn't go your way, spend a week acting selfish and immature on a forum flaming everyone out until you feel victimized over your own actions and the feedback those actions brought to light.
Yep, are you American by any chance?
I'm talking about the company that should be providing me with good customer service, and you attack me personally like i spit on you cat or something . So what youre saying is invalid and has no place here.
My comment was a general observation, nothing directed at you, nothing attacking you at all. Sorry you feel victimized. My asking if you are an American, was purely because you referenced them in your post that I quoted on.
Again, nothing at all that I said was an attack, just a general observation.0 -
knaveofengland✭✭✭a way forward is for the gms mods devs to make posts what is right wrong good bad needs looking at, etc etc etc ,
the problem is when you have open forums like this a zillion posts on just about anything , give people as say and they will say it . so I would suggest a pro-active approach list the problem and most will post on it rather then make some posts , and did you know bugs are gret for fishing cant see any problem oh bit in me eye0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts✭✭✭Not once have i attacked you, unlike you , who has followed me around for 3 days spamming on
Making valid complaint about my personal game experience is in no way flamming.oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Botters, exploiters, constant gold spammers, and community flamers who will verbally abuse you openly in forums if you bring up issues like this. This game has them all in abundance. Just like many of the other games that have ended up an Steam's free to play menu. As I would hate to see this happen, ESO really needs to take an active part in the game community and make some changes quickly.
Honestly , these issues aren't being addresses to the satisfaction of the people that pay to play this game. Why ?
Eso has so much potential yet its being tossed away but the very company that made the game. Why ?
Sorry what? your original post has nothing to do with your "new" apparent concerns. You attack the "company" and then say, "why aren't you helping me when I create these flame threads".
Get a clue.oxygen_boarderb16_ESO wrote: »Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts wrote: »Botters, exploiters, constant gold spammers, and community flamers who will verbally abuse you openly in forums if you bring up issues like this. This game has them all in abundance. Just like many of the other games that have ended up an Steam's free to play menu. As I would hate to see this happen, ESO really needs to take an active part in the game community and make some changes quickly.
Honestly , these issues aren't being addresses to the satisfaction of the people that pay to play this game. Why ?
Eso has so much potential yet its being tossed away but the very company that made the game. Why ?
Sorry what? your original post has nothing to do with your "new" apparent concerns. You attack the "company" and then say, "why aren't you helping me when I create these flame threads".
Get a clue.
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Hadria✭✭✭✭Oblongship wrote: »Nah. I flagged him when he started the anti-American chatter, so I'm guessing he's going to get real quiet now or this thread will just get shut down.
Considering he made a thread complaining about getting a 3 day ban I hope this is his final strike and he is gone for good!
Also I flagged him too.
Oh that's awesome bit I'm sure he'll make another account to get right back to this.0 -
Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts✭✭✭portallib14_ESO wrote: »Oblongship wrote: »Nah. I flagged him when he started the anti-American chatter, so I'm guessing he's going to get real quiet now or this thread will just get shut down.
Considering he made a thread complaining about getting a 3 day ban I hope this is his final strike and he is gone for good!
Also I flagged him too.
Oh that's awesome bit I'm sure he'll make another account to get right back to this.
Well considering i havent made any such thread I wish you well in flagging me for it.0 -
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