Because it was too week on max health builds and needed a buff
I think they will increase the value by 20% in the next patches to be in order with the difference between stamina, magicka and health.

It is a tank set, hence the heavy armor typing and health bonuses. What else would it scale it?

Honestly at first I didn't understand it either. But it makes a bit more sense to me now. The problem with Crimson was that you could go all into max health and pair it with Malacath's and another proc set.
Since almost all the other proc sets do not scale with max health, you can't pair it with anything and still get that same damage you used to. The same goes for healing sets. You can't get all the health boni and still get enough resources to buff healing proc sets.
From the looks of it Crimson twilight will still be a strong set if you build for it, but the build itself will not be as oppressive and efficient as it used to be due to a lack of compatible sets.

At least that is how that change can seem reasonable. It's a totally different story if the change had the intended effect.
It does need to be tested.

madrab73 wrote: »

Was expecting to decon and wear different set on WW next patch. Will save me some mats if it goes live like this. PVP not going to be fun if everyone runs it though.

I expect to see 40K+ health ball groups all running this pushing out 20K procs as they swarm everyone. Good luck staying out of the proc and killing them.

I do understand why harbinger scales off health - you can stop hitting harbinger tank with anything but dots and he'll not do any serious damage to you. Crimson doesn't work like this. It is delayed AoE burst, even if it is triggered by incoming damage.

Bradyfjord wrote: »

That it scales with health isn't the problem. It's the tuning. If the damage is reduced considerably, then it's fine.

On thinking about it further, if Crimson was to scale off of target health (like oblivion damage) I think there would be fewer complaints.

If they are insistent on this being a tank set with PVE usefulness, they should reduce the damage considerably, like 25% of what it does, with the same scaling on health, but increase the healing to be 4x the damage. That way the main problem, the damage, is reduced, but the healing remains the same. It at least makes it more niche and different and less useful as a damage proc.

Davadin wrote: »

does anyone knows how long Cyrodiil going to be a no-proc zone?

Until the release of Blackwood/Update 30 on your platform:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/565283/update-on-proc-set-plan-in-cyrodiil/p1

Blackwood and Update 30 hit on June 1 for PC/Mac and June 8 for console.

olsborg wrote: »

Cromson kinda insane on pts folks..on max hp builds

Is that a PvP tooltip or in PvE? Also, yes, 1250 damage per second in a large area that heals you for 100% of the damage done is a lot, especially as burst of 10k. But how much health does this build have and what are the other stats? Just showing a picture with a big number without showing the rest of it doesn't really help the discussion.

Vercingetorix wrote: »

If you cannot handle a highly telegraphed, melee range 20k tooltip cut in half by Battle Spirit, further reduced by resistances, AND a cooldown on top of that with access to countermeasures such as roots and Defile, then perhaps the problem isn’t the set, it’s YOU.

This post made me wonder, actually: if melee skills are 7m, as defined in the latest PTS patch notes, why does this set have an 8m range? It seems strange that an AoE proc set gets a larger radius than a melee skill. (An extra meter in either direction of course means a 2m longer diameter and much larger area.)

Does this set also respect the AoE cap of 6?

Vercingetorix wrote: »

If you cannot handle a highly telegraphed, melee range 20k tooltip cut in half by Battle Spirit, further reduced by resistances, AND a cooldown on top of that with access to countermeasures such as roots and Defile, then perhaps the problem isn’t the set, it’s YOU.

Melee range is pretty meaningless when a group of 12 is running this and constantly purging snares and roots and rolling over anyone in their paths.

But also, "just stay away" is not viable when a player running this set is flipping flags.

Grandchamp1989 wrote: »

I know people don't like to hear it but Crimson is still a TANK set. It's a HEAVY armor set and was meant to be worn by Tanks!

The dmg helps if you have to quest or do solo content on your TANK.

I know people want to act like we don't exist anymore and everything should be balanced for PVP - but yeah - we still exist and this is our toy.

[snip]

Crimson was already a huge problem set. This only makes it worse. And it needs to go away.

[Edited to remove Baiting]