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10 suggestions to vastly improve the user interface.

RasterEyes
So, there are a lot of little things about the user interface that if improved could make navigating the in game menus and such a much smoother experience, and just make the user experience better in general. Many of the ideas I have were also mentioned by an individual in the French forums (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/681198) but I didn't see anyone in the english forums talking about these things so I will post them here:

I really appreciate how much this game deviates from World of Warcraft in gameplay, but when it comes to the UI it could have taken a lot more cues from the hyper-successful MMO. I think all of the UI improvements I am about to mention were features in WoW, and most of them are fairly standard in MMO gaming in general.

1) Shift-click any item, quest, or skill to link it in the chat window. Having to right-click and select a link option is just a clunkier method to begin with. Also, you can't right-click an item that you see linked in chat, and therefore there is no way to relink an item from chat that you might not possess yourself. Being able to link a quest in chat is a huge help when trying to find questmates or asking other players questions about a quest you are on. And being able to link a skill is great when discussing builds.

2) Shift-click any player name in the chat window to get information about that character (class, race, level, location). Currently it looks like shift-clicking doesn't do anything different than an ordinary click. At least maybe have character info be an option in the right-click drop down, maybe?

3) Hold shift while hovering over any piece of gear in your inventory to show comparison to what you currently have equipped in that slot. When you are in your inventory it does this by default, but when you are at a crafting table there is no way to do this. When I am selecting gear to deconstruct or research there is no way to quickly check the gear I am currently wearing in that slot to make sure I actually want to destroy that piece of gear to advance my profession. I have to exit the crafting table completely, go into my inventory and compare the gear there, then I have to try and remember the name of that item that I want to deconstruct/research while going back into the crafting table menu. And then I have to do all this again for each piece of gear in question. This is a huge UI flaw.

4) A "craft all" option would be very convenient. When I have mats to make 100 sweetrolls that I'm making solely for the provisioning xp and am planning to just vendor trash them afterwards I really don't want to have to actually push a button for every single one. That is another huge UI flaw in my opinion.

5) Our UserID should not be displayed in game. The only benefit with this is that when you "ignore" someone it ignores their entire account, and when you "friend" someone you will see them online even if they log in on an alt. These are two minor benefits versus a list of major problems this introduces. Firstly, this creates huge confusion when interacting with guildmates. I know the people in my guild by their UserID because that's what it shows in the guild chat, but when we group up for things it shows their character name and I have no idea who is who. Secondly, the obvious immersion killing problems this creates for role players (this is an MMORPG after all). Thirdly, there are privacy issues. I like to make all my account names formulaic so I never forget them, they are always the first initial of my name then my last name. I don't want everyone in an MMO I am playing to know my legal name and I certainly don't want my badass fantasy RPG character to be known by my boring real life name. Fourthly, maybe I want a character that people on my friends list don't know about, an alter ego per se. Fifthly (is that a word? I dunno if I've ever gotten this far before =p), the security issues, although this isn't as big of a deal as some make it out to be (most hackers use key loggers or phishing scams anyways), it is still just one more reason why displaying UserIDs in game is a bad idea and just seems like lazy programming to me. I think the two aforementioned benefits can be achieved without actually displaying UserIDs with just a little creative thinking.

6) In game voice chat. We're already paying a subscription to play this game, we shouldn't have to also pay subscription for a Ventrilo server as well. And most the free voice chat applications for gaming out there are not cross platform and are usually windows only, and this is a cross platform game, so... Also, this is the year 2014, this function should be in all MMOs at this point, period.

7) A search field for the guild stores. Seriously? No search field for the guild stores? This makes buying materials (probably the most commonly bought things in an auction house) a real hassle. Currently we can only filter by item category, so we have to rummage through literally hundreds or thousands of irrelevant materials to find the few stacks of mats we actually want. What is this all about?

8 ) Option to right-click on those character panels that come up at the top left when in a group. It would be really convenient if you could just right-click on those character panels directly to bring a drop down with options like kick, make leader, whisper, etc... instead of having to open the group window in the menus. Just helps with streamlining and makes things quicker/easier and would be a really easy function to add. (EDIT: #8 was changed because the feature it previously suggested has been added to ESO. This feature was mentioned by one of the commenters and definitely deserves to be on this list.)

9) Option to "inspect" another player. I'll see some guy in really badass looking gear and be like "Who are you wearing" like some red carpet fashion critic, and I should be able to find that out without having to ask the player to link all the gear he/she is wearing in chat. In addition to seeing the player's paper doll of gear, being able to see that player's class build would be nice too for those of us who are into theorycrafting.

10) Trying on gear. I'd like to be able to see what my character would look like wearing a piece of gear without actually possessing the item or before equipping a BOE. So before buying, binding, or crafting the item I could see what it would look like cosmetically. Maybe it could be an option from a right-click drop down menu on the item's icon or something. It would be really useful in this game, especially considering the same piece of gear can have at least 14 different possible racial styles. Being able to zoom/rotate your character while in the inventory menu section would be nice little bonus as well.

Extra credit:
Allow us to copy and paste text from the chat window! This would be great and save lots of headache in certain situations.


Thanks for reading, I know this is a long post, but I really think these UI functions would GREATLY improve some of the little nuisances many players currently find with the game.

This was also posted to the ESO subreddit where the dialogue with other gamers got very productive weeding out the pro's and con's of some of these features with a bit more nuance than they did here. Here's a link to the subreddit version if you would like to join the discussion over there: http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/244tix/10_suggestions_to_vastly_improve_esos_user/

P.S. I would personally like just a couple more hotkeys for abilities, although I know this is entirely subjective and just something I would like personally and that others may disagree with, which is why it is not in the main body of my post. Maybe even just having the option to assign keybindings to swap the current quickslot item to one of the other items slotted in the radial menu? Using the mouse with the radial menu to change what is in your quickslot is just not viable while in the heat of combat. AND FIX THE PHASING ISSUES, it is a game ruiner. This is an MMO, at the very least I should be able to SEE the people I am grouped with and hunt with them as well.
Edited by RasterEyes on April 28, 2014 10:11PM
  • ijRoberts
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    You're saying all these things like this is a PC game or something. =)

    Those SHIFT+ commands would be hard to pull off with a controller, no?
  • saki
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    Yep, consolitis man :p No hope for us pc gamers. Agree with all above.
  • epoling
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    A lot of these are nice, but I would hate to see "Inspect". Too many jerks use this as a way to start bashing folks that don't play the game they want them to. It is available in EQ2 and I have seen people kick folks from groups for having 1,000 less hit points than somebody else (when everybody already has 500,000 HP). A woman I regularly group with was reduced to tears when one of these bullies started ripping on her build, even though she is one of the best players I know and does her job extremely well. It is just too open to abuse, especially in a game like this where they seem to want you to experiment and have fun building your character the way you want, not a defined "right way".
  • spesimen
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    Good list. Especially about userid. I also like to have some anonymous characters and its impossible to know what char is connected to what userid in your friend list or in your guild.

    I have a candiate for #11. Reply to email. Email was there even before the internet. Seem so trivial to be able to reply to an email but the option is missing from the UI.
    Edited by spesimen on April 23, 2014 9:15PM
  • ijRoberts
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    I totally agree with the preview window. I would love to see how my character would look in full Breton vs full Bosmer BEFORE I make the items. (The thumbnails just don't do it justice).

    The inspect idea is good, but only if it tells you just what armor/weapons the person is using. I, too, think being able to see people's stats is a bit invasive. You should only be able to get as much information as you would looking at the tag of their shirt.
  • niocwy
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    Agreed.
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  • RasterEyes
    epoling wrote: »
    A lot of these are nice, but I would hate to see "Inspect". Too many jerks use this as a way to start bashing folks that don't play the game they want them to. It is available in EQ2 and I have seen people kick folks from groups for having 1,000 less hit points than somebody else (when everybody already has 500,000 HP). A woman I regularly group with was reduced to tears when one of these bullies started ripping on her build, even though she is one of the best players I know and does her job extremely well. It is just too open to abuse, especially in a game like this where they seem to want you to experiment and have fun building your character the way you want, not a defined "right way".
    Being an open minded gamer I would never insult someone because of their build, at the very most I would maybe give suggestions for possible improvements as politely as possible, so I never would have thought of that. Thanks for the insight.
    Edited by RasterEyes on April 25, 2014 9:25AM
  • RasterEyes
    And yea, I realize this game is planned for eventual console release. But for one, it is a PC game first and foremost, seeing as how it was originally released for PC and we still haven't even seen beta for console. And secondly, many of these features could be creatively incorporated into the console version (like instead of holding shift while over an item holding one of the buttons on the controller), and for ones that are pc exclusive (which I'm not sure there really are any other than the "more hotkeys" request, but that was an addendum and I admitted that was a somewhat unrealistic a request to make) you could just disable for the console version.
  • Blackwidow
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    At this point I was open to almost any top ten list to improve the GUI.

  • Daethz
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    Agreed.
    The game can be altered to suite console and pc needs separately, consoles cannot play with eachother or pc players, thus the games are completely separate.
    Waiting, and watching, for the return of Melee Weapons.
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  • RaZaddha
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    9. Inspect. No, nope, no way, simply no.
    All else looks good
  • Honn
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    9) Option to "inspect" another player
    This simply wont happen & if it does there will be hell to pay in the forums.
    This discussion has already been had, through the Addon discussions & the use of "gear checks".
    This will simply be used as a tool to alienate players from groups.

    There is a reason the API was changed in the last beta...to prevent monitoring of other players (no to mention exploits).
  • RasterEyes
    That's interesting to me that people would be so against an "inspect" feature. I can understand the point some commenters made about being able to look at people's builds, but why not gear? The strength of your character in this game is more about how you build your character through skill and attribute points and which skills you choose for your hotkeys and how you use them than it is about gear anyways. Can you link the discussion you mentioned Honn? Thanks for sharing your opinions!
  • BaKaNoOB
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    Mini-map for me
  • Danpb14_ESO
    Agree with everything, great list. I was actually a bit shocked when I found out you couldn't "preview" gear.
  • Slash8915
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    Great list. Also, how about the ability to leave or kick someone from the group by right-clicking their name in the group list to the upper left as I can do in EVERY other MMO I've ever played?
  • RasterEyes
    Oh yea, that is one I definitely would have added Slash, Being able to right click the player's in group from icons at top left. And not just kicking/leaving but also maybe for whispers and declaring new leader.
  • WilliamTee
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    Agree with most of the list, even if it is rather wow-centric...

    One query it's raised for me however:

    I'm not a console gamer... How would players interact in ESO on a console without text-based communication?
  • RasterEyes
    Yea, I was hesitant about even mentioning WoW initially, but when I realized that every UI feature I wanted to see in ESO was a feature that is available in WoW I felt like I had to mention it. And to be honest, I like ESO a lot more than WoW in most ways, but the UI is definitely not one of them. I think UI is one of the things WoW really nailed so I felt it was a fair place to give them credit.
  • martinhpb16_ESO
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    epoling wrote: »
    A lot of these are nice, but I would hate to see "Inspect". Too many jerks use this as a way to start bashing folks that don't play the game they want them to. It is available in EQ2 and I have seen people kick folks from groups for having 1,000 less hit points than somebody else (when everybody already has 500,000 HP). A woman I regularly group with was reduced to tears when one of these bullies started ripping on her build, even though she is one of the best players I know and does her job extremely well. It is just too open to abuse, especially in a game like this where they seem to want you to experiment and have fun building your character the way you want, not a defined "right way".
    Although this must have been hard on your friend I would think this is quite a rare occurrence. A simple anonymous option would remedy this. Inspect is a nice feature for theory crafting, sharing.builds with friends and can assist with progression.
    At least the spelling is difficult for you.
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  • martinhpb16_ESO
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    I have never played wow but did play lotro for 7 years and there are many features that I expected to see on the UI.

    Some useful features for me would be,
    - copy & paste in chat
    - search options on guild store, wading through everything is soul destroying.
    - inspect
    - right click player name grouping / guild options - inviting anyone to anything is so difficult esp with user name confision
    - guild wide mail option
    - audio notification for tells, how many whispers do we miss through normal game play and fading chat !
    - option to stop chat fading
    - target marking, different symbols for groups, to ID party roles, target etc.
    - target forwarding - I'm not sure if this is needed in vet dungeons but it was a necessary feature of raids, pvp in lotro
    - I agree with OP user id must not be seen it is only a matter of time before the account hacking, gold robbery, character deleting starts. And it is ridiculously confusing, JhnSmth01 etc.
    Edited by martinhpb16_ESO on April 24, 2014 12:11PM
    At least the spelling is difficult for you.
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  • Leeta
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    I agree with all of it. It feels like they have gone back in time when mmo's was fairly new and done the same things other games did in the past when first released and later had to change.
  • Zargorius
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    Fine with everything except the Inspect option - too open too abuse and you can always ask which I find much a better way to interact with people.
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  • Honn
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    RasterEyes wrote: »
    That's interesting to me that people would be so against an "inspect" feature. I can understand the point some commenters made about being able to look at people's builds, but why not gear? The strength of your character in this game is more about how you build your character through skill and attribute points and which skills you choose for your hotkeys and how you use them than it is about gear anyways. Can you link the discussion you mentioned Honn? Thanks for sharing your opinions!

    Sorry, the discussions no longer exist as they took place during the Beta's in the "temporary official forums". If they still exist, it is beyond my ability & patience to find them.
    Regardless of your intentions behind the use of features like this, they will be used as a means to segregate the player base. This has been evident in the majority of MMOs that use player moderating functons/ addons and has no place in a game like ESO.
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    flagged, wrong forum.
  • Malediktus
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    epoling wrote: »
    A lot of these are nice, but I would hate to see "Inspect". Too many jerks use this as a way to start bashing folks that don't play the game they want them to. It is available in EQ2 and I have seen people kick folks from groups for having 1,000 less hit points than somebody else (when everybody already has 500,000 HP). A woman I regularly group with was reduced to tears when one of these bullies started ripping on her build, even though she is one of the best players I know and does her job extremely well. It is just too open to abuse, especially in a game like this where they seem to want you to experiment and have fun building your character the way you want, not a defined "right way".
    You can already inspect other peoples health with addons
    @Malediktus --- Ebonheart Pact, EU-Megaserver
  • Jade1986
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    These are all very realistic and would be very convenient. As for people saying "cant be done with console" Yes it could, you hold one button down and press another to do whatever you did with shift + x
  • Xandarth79
    Honn wrote: »
    9) Option to "inspect" another player
    This simply wont happen & if it does there will be hell to pay in the forums.
    There are only two groups of people who oppose inspection of gear.

    Loot ninja's (who thanks to the loot system in this game are not a problem in this game) and bads wanting to do content they don't have the gear to do. If you think not having inspection will stop gear checks you are delusional - a far more effective method of determining whether or not someone is bad is to simply dps/heal check them.

    That also catches bad players in good gear. There is no good argument against gear checks.
  • RasterEyes
    flagged, wrong forum.
    Whoa, I just clicked the drop down menu for categories in editing, I had no idea there were so many. What do you suggest I change it to? And if I edit the category it will still keep all the comments right?
    Edited by RasterEyes on April 25, 2014 9:31AM
  • Blackwidow
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    Xandarth79 wrote: »

    That also catches bad players in good gear. There is no good argument against gear checks.

    Third group, people who don't like to be judged by A-holes.
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