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How can i hide my stuff for the Group-Loot Add-On
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SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭And we have a right to feel the way we do. and state our position.
if you dont want to play with others that use the addon. create a guild of like minded players.
dont expect us to change the way we enjoy playing the game just because you dont like it.
it aint all about you either.
We are playing the base game. You are the ones going out of your way to install and addon that changes how the base game works. You are the ones who should create your guild of like minded players.Edited by SilverBride on March 19, 2021 7:33PMPCNA8 -
remosito✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »Addons are an intended way of eso being played on pc. dont like it. play on console. or play a different game. or convince zos to remove that part of the api.
until they do. using the addon is an allowed way tobplay the game. and none of us are doing anything wrong.
No, you aren't doing anything wrong for using this addon, as long as ZoS allows this. But not being wrong doesn't translate to being right.
How you then use the information is what many of us think is wrong.
and I do MOST FUNDAMENTALLY disagree with there being anything wrong with asking politely. or even tersely. if another can have somebody elses loot in case they aint using it.
Makes me bloody happy an item doesnt get dusted.Edited by remosito on March 19, 2021 7:36PMShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)1 -
amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »perfiction wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »specialized tools to read it.spartaxoxo wrote: »You are intercepting information that is NOT made easily publicly available by zos
You have no idea what you are talking about kind sir. Let's say you have your favourite weather synopsis website. That website has public API allowing to get weather information for specific regions. You decide to use that API in your mobile app to get weather info from them and show it on your lock screen (because why not). Does it mean that you are intercepting information that is NOT made easily publicly available?
No more responses to you, you have clearly no clue how ESO API works and how addons utilize it. They can't intercept information without ZOS permission. Addons can do only things that ZOS allows and utilize data that ZOS shares.
It's not about how it functions. It's about what is public or not. It is not public if they aren't the ones making it public. ZOS has it private by default in the game and gives no in-game options to make it public. That by the defintion of privacy, makes it private.
I think you don't know how eso and addons and the public api works.
there are many many thousands of lines of codes and variables and constants in the game. much of it is not accessible at all. it is private to zos.
anything that is in the api that addons can use is put in there on purpose by zos to make it publicly and legally accessible.
They actually ARE the ones making it public.
if y'all could stop targetting us fellow players for using the addon. stating we have no right to access that public information. We do. ZOS gave it to us.
And instead target ZOS. And demand from them they stop making that info public because what drops for you is yours and nobody elses business...
ZOS isn't the one in my DM's asking for my staff. I hold people accountable for their actions. Just because something *can* be done doesn't mean it *should* be done.
People *should* know better than to download an add-on that snoops on other people's loot. But they are making a decision to do so anyways.5 -
Viewsfrom6ix✭✭✭✭✭@SilverBride Save your time and brain cells. There is no timeline in the universe where everyone can agreed on this topic.0 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »@SilverBride Save your time and brain cells. There is no timeline in the universe where everyone can agreed on this topic.
I have plenty of time, and brain cells.
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Auth3nticGlitch✭✭✭I'm hoping my solution for adding a way to ignore whispers of group members looking for items(with options) will solve everyone's issues, especially for the OP. Those who use the group loot addon can gladly use it and those who don't want to get whispers by those people will simply be ignored with their messages filtered out as if they never even existed. Problem solved IMO, as I mentioned before we should have an option of ignoring/opting out at least this way these discussions will stop because they're never-ending and circular by the looks of it, and they prevent us from doing things we want to do the most, which is play the game the way we want to play the game without anyone telling us how to do that.
Edit: for grammarEdited by Auth3nticGlitch on March 19, 2021 7:41PM1 -
Viewsfrom6ix✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »@SilverBride Save your time and brain cells. There is no timeline in the universe where everyone can agreed on this topic.
I have plenty of time, and brain cells.
What better way than to argue with strangers on the internet over a video game right?
I'm guilty too.3 -
SilverBride✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »@SilverBride Save your time and brain cells. There is no timeline in the universe where everyone can agreed on this topic.
I have plenty of time, and brain cells.
What better way than to argue with strangers on the internet over a video game right?
I'm guilty too.
I just want to be able to enjoy my game without others telling me what sets I need to wear, what rotation I need to use, what race I have to play for my class, what I have to parse, and now what I should be doing with my loot.
Where does it end?PCNA3 -
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✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »
I personally find it much more reasonable to assume that ZOS is indiferent to the data being used moreso viewing it as being allowed, which implies a level of intent that I don't think is warranted when they have actually welcomed some addons while saying negative things about others and then removing their functionality.
When we have some apps embraced, some repudiated, and some uncommented on, I think it's best to view zos as not having a stance one way or another. Personally. 7 years is a long time tho.
I wouldnt necessarily apply this to addons simply because the API has to be created actively as far as Im aware. Im no API/coding expert, if API can be made accidentally or is a byproduct of something else anyone that actually is an expert on API/coding feel free to tell me otherwise.
But Imo if Zos creates an API they allow it to be used until they, or their actions, say otherwise. Otherwise they wouldnt create it and I doubt APIs are made for the fun of it. I also cant really think what other function an API that shares loot would have besides sharing loot. But again anyone that, unlike me, actually has experience on the matter feel free to tell me otherwise (not you specifically).Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
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LashanW✭✭✭✭✭
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@robertthebardrobertthebard wrote: »Yes, the listening to the drops mechanic, which is background broadcast for the developers to be able to track it. This serves the purpose, as I stated in the post you almost quoted here, of allowing the devs to see when someone is trying to game the system on a drop, or when a legit issue arises with one. This isn't information that we as players need, so it wasn't intended for us to see it. This addon, again, as I pointed out in the post you almost quoted here, changes that functionality, so that we can see it.
What? Do you even understand the things you are claiming? How do you claim ZoS devs use the Addons API as a logging tool? Or an internal event-handler?
Devs would use their own internal debugging tools and internal event handlers to track things that happen in their game, and these should be able to track pretty much ANYTHING that happen in the game. How do you think ZoS went after players' accounts who exploited the billions of gold that was generated by a fault in the multi trader bidding feature? Using Addons API's functions? lol no. A sane software developer would NEVER expose their private internal debugging tools to end users, that would be a recipe for disaster.
Mate. I made my post because it looked like you didn't understand the purpose and intention of exposing an API to end users, and you seemed to be thinking that addon authors somehow got hold of access to game's internal functions that are not meant to be used by external parties and are abusing them. And now I'm sure you got no clue about what you are talking about. It's fine to dislike an addon or have opinions against its usage. But don't spread misinformation about standard software practices.
Here's a very basic diagram to explain what is an API, I attached it with the hope that you are not a troll and is just mistaken.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-9343fa6cb2697163713f857a0755ee41
Developers would only expose functionality that is meant for end users via a public API like this. Developers would NOT be using the functions of this API to track something that happens inside their own product, they have their own private tools for it. Do you need to go out of your house and ring the doorbell if you want to know if someone is inside your home? No, you don't. It's your house. You are already in it and you'd know who's in your house.Edited by LashanW on March 19, 2021 7:50PM---No longer active in ESO---
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Nord_Raseri✭✭✭✭✭
✭BeefcakeManwich wrote: »
Even in a community of nerds playing a video game they liked together. There's still a lack of compassion and empathy.
People who just want their privacy respected being told they lack empathy by the person saying it's okay to invade said privacy...
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remosito✭✭✭✭✭SilverBride wrote: »
not my problem. and not the addons problem. and I certainly aint stopping using it just because you made the misfortunate decision to play with strangers in an mmo. start a guild and put "only nice people. group loot addon use forbidden" in the description. only group with guildies".
for what it's worth. I ask politely. and if it is a valuable piece like say bsw fire staff back in the day. i offer good gold.
No desire to punish myself by not using a super handy addon. just because you cant deal with ppl asking you for drops they could use. and refuse to stop grouping with strangers.
clarification for tersely. I dont endorse it. but I tolerate it. for ppl who hardly speak a foreign language. being verbose or actually polite is harder than one might think...Edited by remosito on March 19, 2021 8:01PMShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)2 -
remosito✭✭✭✭✭Auth3nticGlitch wrote: »I'm hoping my solution for adding a way to ignore whispers of group members looking for items(with options) will solve everyone's issues, especially for the OP. Those who use the group loot addon can gladly use it and those who don't want to get whispers by those people will simply be ignored with their messages filtered out as if they never even existed. Problem solved IMO, as I mentioned before we should have an option of ignoring/opting out at least this way these discussions will stop because they're never-ending and circular by the looks of it, and they prevent us from doing things we want to do the most, which is play the game the way we want to play the game without anyone telling us how to do that.
Edit: for grammar
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spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »ZOS is. and they are telling us.
most of you are constantly saying "we spy, snoop, illegallily look into your bag, we have no right,...."
these are all targetting us statements like we are doing something bad.
we aint doing any of that ***.
ZoS has a right to snoop into anything we do. You don't.
they sure have a right to snoop. but do they have right to share everything they learn with every other player?
I do not even snoop. zos tells me officially and publicly.
A 3rd party addon is not an official part of the game.
3rd party? ZOS owns our data which we agreed to and made it available through a channel aka API. Read my comments above.
The creator of the app is not ZOS and thus it is by definition a third party app. This is the reason they aren't allowed on consoles.Edited by spartaxoxo on March 19, 2021 7:57PM4 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »ZOS is. and they are telling us.
most of you are constantly saying "we spy, snoop, illegallily look into your bag, we have no right,...."
these are all targetting us statements like we are doing something bad.
we aint doing any of that ***.
ZoS has a right to snoop into anything we do. You don't.
they sure have a right to snoop. but do they have right to share everything they learn with every other player?
I do not even snoop. zos tells me officially and publicly.
A 3rd party addon is not an official part of the game.
nope. but it is using an official part of the game that is put there for the express purpose of being used for addons.
It is not put there for the express purpose of being used for addons unless zos specifically states that. They have had to remove stuff from being used before because it was not what they wanted.
You keep acting as though the having the ability to do something is the same thing as being officially sponsored and that is NOT the case.
This addon is NOT an official part of the game and is instead a third party app. ZoS has never commented on it's legitimacy either way. That is the reason it's unable to be used by console and why you cannot claim official endorsement.
You can reasonably argue its not against the rules and therefore allowed, you cannot take that a step further and say it's endorsed and official. There is a wide gap between permitted and official.Edited by spartaxoxo on March 19, 2021 8:03PM5 -
remosito✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »Viewsfrom6ix wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »ZOS is. and they are telling us.
most of you are constantly saying "we spy, snoop, illegallily look into your bag, we have no right,...."
these are all targetting us statements like we are doing something bad.
we aint doing any of that ***.
ZoS has a right to snoop into anything we do. You don't.
they sure have a right to snoop. but do they have right to share everything they learn with every other player?
I do not even snoop. zos tells me officially and publicly.
A 3rd party addon is not an official part of the game.
3rd party? ZOS owns our data which we agreed to and made it available through a channel aka API. Read my comments above.
The creator of the app is not ZOS and thus it is by definition a third party app. This is the reason they aren't allowed on consoles.
reason they are not allowed on consiles is sony/microsoft not allowing it.
on pc zos has the say. and they say:
Hell yes! go for it!
so the api is zos. and they give permission to use it and write addons.
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DarcyMardin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Interesting thread — what strong opinions, often opposing ones, folks have about this! Here’s mine, as a casual, though longtime player: I don’t pug that often, or do dungeons, but when I do, I never check my drops until the end of the dungeon. I rarely look at the chat box while fighting or see whispers until well after they’ve been sent. And I’m still a *long* way from completing my sticker book.
I don’t really like the idea of other players using an add-on to check my loot, although I can see why collectors find it useful. If somebody asks politely at the end of the dungeon if I’m willing to trade them an item that I don’t need, I’ll gladly give it to them. Unless of course, they have speedrun the dungeon, leaving me gasping to catch up, or fake-tanked it, or refused to fight a boss I told the group I needed for the quest or the pledge. People like that I ignore.3 -
Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »perfiction wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »specialized tools to read it.spartaxoxo wrote: »You are intercepting information that is NOT made easily publicly available by zos
You have no idea what you are talking about kind sir. Let's say you have your favourite weather synopsis website. That website has public API allowing to get weather information for specific regions. You decide to use that API in your mobile app to get weather info from them and show it on your lock screen (because why not). Does it mean that you are intercepting information that is NOT made easily publicly available?
No more responses to you, you have clearly no clue how ESO API works and how addons utilize it. They can't intercept information without ZOS permission. Addons can do only things that ZOS allows and utilize data that ZOS shares.
It's not about how it functions. It's about what is public or not. It is not public if they aren't the ones making it public. ZOS has it private by default in the game and gives no in-game options to make it public. That by the defintion of privacy, makes it private.
I think you don't know how eso and addons and the public api works.
there are many many thousands of lines of codes and variables and constants in the game. much of it is not accessible at all. it is private to zos.
anything that is in the api that addons can use is put in there on purpose by zos to make it publicly and legally accessible.
They actually ARE the ones making it public.
if y'all could stop targetting us fellow players for using the addon. stating we have no right to access that public information. We do. ZOS gave it to us.
And instead target ZOS. And demand from them they stop making that info public because what drops for you is yours and nobody elses business...
ZOS isn't the one in my DM's asking for my staff. I hold people accountable for their actions. Just because something *can* be done doesn't mean it *should* be done.
People *should* know better than to download an add-on that snoops on other people's loot. But they are making a decision to do so anyways.
I just don't see how someone knowing what you looted harms you. Do you also care if other people see what you put in your cart when you're shopping at a store?2 -
remosito✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »ZOS is. and they are telling us.
most of you are constantly saying "we spy, snoop, illegallily look into your bag, we have no right,...."
these are all targetting us statements like we are doing something bad.
we aint doing any of that ***.
ZoS has a right to snoop into anything we do. You don't.
they sure have a right to snoop. but do they have right to share everything they learn with every other player?
I do not even snoop. zos tells me officially and publicly.
A 3rd party addon is not an official part of the game.
nope. but it is using an official part of the game that is put there for the express purpose of being used for addons.
It is not put there for the express purpose of being used for addons unless zos specifically states that. They have had to remove stuff from being used before because it was not what they wanted.
You keep acting as though the having the ability to do something is the same thing as being officially sponsored and that is NOT the case.
This addon is NOT an official part of the game and is instead a third party app. ZoS has never commented on it's legitimacy either way. That is the reason it's unable to be used by console and why you cannot claim official endorsement.
It is the same thing as being officially permitted.
The game could and would function perfectly fine and the same. Even if that api were made unaccessible to everybody but zos code.
The fact the api exists as it is. Is implicit permission to use it and write addons. and use those.Edited by remosito on March 19, 2021 8:10PMShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)1 -
xAarionx✭✭✭DarcyMardin wrote: »Interesting thread — what strong opinions, often opposing ones, folks have about this! Here’s mine, as a casual, though longtime player: I don’t pug that often, or do dungeons, but when I do, I never check my drops until the end of the dungeon. I rarely look at the chat box while fighting or see whispers until well after they’ve been sent. And I’m still a *long* way from completing my sticker book.
I don’t really like the idea of other players using an add-on to check my loot, although I can see why collectors find it useful. If somebody asks politely at the end of the dungeon if I’m willing to trade them an item that I don’t need, I’ll gladly give it to them. Unless of course, they have speedrun the dungeon, leaving me gasping to catch up, or fake-tanked it, or refused to fight a boss I told the group I needed for the quest or the pledge. People like that I ignore.
THATS Its...
Finally an exemple of rational thinking over feelings...
(I'm not being ironic just to not mistake for that...)
I'll repeat: thats the problem in general with this thread.
too much feelings, too Little rational thinking.Edited by xAarionx on March 19, 2021 8:11PM1 -
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✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »ZOS is. and they are telling us.
most of you are constantly saying "we spy, snoop, illegallily look into your bag, we have no right,...."
these are all targetting us statements like we are doing something bad.
we aint doing any of that ***.
ZoS has a right to snoop into anything we do. You don't.
they sure have a right to snoop. but do they have right to share everything they learn with every other player?
I do not even snoop. zos tells me officially and publicly.
A 3rd party addon is not an official part of the game.
nope. but it is using an official part of the game that is put there for the express purpose of being used for addons.
It is not put there for the express purpose of being used for addons unless zos specifically states that. They have had to remove stuff from being used before because it was not what they wanted.
The API is exactly and entirely there to be used by addons.
Now, it's certainly possible for ZOS to reconsider what information is given via the API because they don't like how players are using it, but until that happens there's no point to API functionality other than in an addon.
I don't run a group loot addon fwiw, and I will link gear on request ( and occasionally unprompted), and people asking politely for my tradeable loot doesn't bug me whether they use an addon or not. If I'm looking for something I will ask in group chat or voice, and if you don't want to share you can just stay silent with me none the wiser. Its a little stunning to me that in this thread we have people who are willing to share but will decon if asked directly and at the same time others who are willing to share but won't look at their loot unless asked for a specific item.Edited by kringled_1 on March 19, 2021 8:12PM1 -
remosito✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »
so what. on pc zos allows them. that is all that matters.
well more than just allows them. zos enables them with their public api.
Edited by remosito on March 19, 2021 8:15PMShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)0 -
amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭SilverBride wrote: »Addons are an intended way of eso being played on pc. dont like it. play on console. or play a different game. or convince zos to remove that part of the api.
until they do. using the addon is an allowed way tobplay the game. and none of us are doing anything wrong.
No, you aren't doing anything wrong for using this addon, as long as ZoS allows this. But not being wrong doesn't translate to being right.
How you then use the information is what many of us think is wrong.
and I do MOST FUNDAMENTALLY disagree with there being anything wrong with asking politely. or even tersely. if another can have somebody elses loot in case they aint using it.
Makes me bloody happy an item doesnt get dusted.
I'd much rather dust an item than give it to someone who snooped through my loot drops to ask for it.3 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »ZOS is. and they are telling us.
most of you are constantly saying "we spy, snoop, illegallily look into your bag, we have no right,...."
these are all targetting us statements like we are doing something bad.
we aint doing any of that ***.
ZoS has a right to snoop into anything we do. You don't.
they sure have a right to snoop. but do they have right to share everything they learn with every other player?
I do not even snoop. zos tells me officially and publicly.
A 3rd party addon is not an official part of the game.
nope. but it is using an official part of the game that is put there for the express purpose of being used for addons.
It is not put there for the express purpose of being used for addons unless zos specifically states that. They have had to remove stuff from being used before because it was not what they wanted.
You keep acting as though the having the ability to do something is the same thing as being officially sponsored and that is NOT the case.
This addon is NOT an official part of the game and is instead a third party app. ZoS has never commented on it's legitimacy either way. That is the reason it's unable to be used by console and why you cannot claim official endorsement.
It is the same thing as being officially permitted.
The game could and would function perfectly fine and the same. Even if that api were made unaccessible to everybody but zos code.
The fact the api exists as it is. Is implicit permission to use it and write addons. and use those.
Something being permitted is not and will never be the same exact thing as being official. That's really just not how it works. ZOS can and HAS removed information from there because people were using it in ways they found abusive.
The ability to do something is not the same thing as endorsement. It's just not.
People have permission to use any information to make addons, but the functionality of any particular Add-ons is not endorsed or approved by zos unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Edit:
In fact, to even make an Add-ons you have to agree that you understand exactly this and all Add-ons makers are required to state they are NOT official in anyway.If you create an Add-on, You must include the following disclosure in a Readme or similar .txt file: "This Add-on is not created by, affiliated with or sponsored by ZeniMax Media Inc. or its affiliates. The Elder Scrolls® and related logos are registered trademarks or trademarks of ZeniMax Media Inc. in the United States and/or other countries. All rights reserved."Edited by spartaxoxo on March 19, 2021 8:19PM4 -
remosito✭✭✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »Addons are an intended way of eso being played on pc. dont like it. play on console. or play a different game. or convince zos to remove that part of the api.
until they do. using the addon is an allowed way tobplay the game. and none of us are doing anything wrong.
No, you aren't doing anything wrong for using this addon, as long as ZoS allows this. But not being wrong doesn't translate to being right.
How you then use the information is what many of us think is wrong.
and I do MOST FUNDAMENTALLY disagree with there being anything wrong with asking politely. or even tersely. if another can have somebody elses loot in case they aint using it.
Makes me bloody happy an item doesnt get dusted.
I'd much rather dust an item than give it to someone who snooped through my loot drops to ask for it.
different strokes for different folksShutYerTrap (selectively mute NPC dialogues (stuga, companions); displayleads (antiquity leads location); UndauntedPledgeQueuer (small daily undaunted dungeon queuer window)0 -
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✭Goregrinder wrote: »amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »perfiction wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »specialized tools to read it.spartaxoxo wrote: »You are intercepting information that is NOT made easily publicly available by zos
You have no idea what you are talking about kind sir. Let's say you have your favourite weather synopsis website. That website has public API allowing to get weather information for specific regions. You decide to use that API in your mobile app to get weather info from them and show it on your lock screen (because why not). Does it mean that you are intercepting information that is NOT made easily publicly available?
No more responses to you, you have clearly no clue how ESO API works and how addons utilize it. They can't intercept information without ZOS permission. Addons can do only things that ZOS allows and utilize data that ZOS shares.
It's not about how it functions. It's about what is public or not. It is not public if they aren't the ones making it public. ZOS has it private by default in the game and gives no in-game options to make it public. That by the defintion of privacy, makes it private.
I think you don't know how eso and addons and the public api works.
there are many many thousands of lines of codes and variables and constants in the game. much of it is not accessible at all. it is private to zos.
anything that is in the api that addons can use is put in there on purpose by zos to make it publicly and legally accessible.
They actually ARE the ones making it public.
if y'all could stop targetting us fellow players for using the addon. stating we have no right to access that public information. We do. ZOS gave it to us.
And instead target ZOS. And demand from them they stop making that info public because what drops for you is yours and nobody elses business...
ZOS isn't the one in my DM's asking for my staff. I hold people accountable for their actions. Just because something *can* be done doesn't mean it *should* be done.
People *should* know better than to download an add-on that snoops on other people's loot. But they are making a decision to do so anyways.
I just don't see how someone knowing what you looted harms you. Do you also care if other people see what you put in your cart when you're shopping at a store?
If they are intentionally going out of their way and looking through my cart at my stuff? Yes.
Which is exactly what intentionally going out of your way to download an add-on to look through my loot drops is doing.4 -
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Pretty pointless to explain at this point, people ignoring the fact that it's made for add-on creators use specifically and proceeding like it's just some unpatched yet messaging that is here because some zos reasons.0
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