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  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    whooligans wrote: »
    ZIKE wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    ZIKE wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    I quess you have never played GW2 on launch or Aion. Go queue for some random bgs in WoW and see how invested they are with bots, esp on eu servers.

    FWIW, i made a new alt last night and i hardly saw any goldspam nor node teleport hackers like I used to see.

    They are doing something about bots, it's just not snapping with your fingers and they're all gone. It takes time.

    I have in fact played those game, and I do in fact play them now and i can tell you there are not as many farmers in those games as there are here period.

    Ofcourse not. http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/73466-guild-wars-2-has-a-serious-bot-problem-are-they-even-doing-anything-about-it/page__st__30

    http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/06/0540254/gold-spam-becoming-a-sore-topic-for-aion-players

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3010643631

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=201124

    I gave up clicking on the links you give when the 1st two that I looked at were dated 2009 and 2012.

    Yep. posting links to threads that are years old certainly prooves that any problems in those games still exist.

    Dumb, just dumb.

    We were talking about game launches. And if you think those games are now free of bots then lol. WoW still has a bot problem, in random bgs the problem has never been worse in all the years I have played the game.

    People were posting stuff that what is happening in EsO never happened in other launches, hence the links.

    Here's what happens in the real world, devs are coming up with solutions eventually to reduce the amount of bots, it takes time.

    And before talking about dumb, it's proves btw.

    Your exaggerating the actual comments posted by the community to attempt to justify your point. Yes, just about every other new MMO at lunch has had this same type of activity, but never at the scale ESO has. This point is very accurate. Basically, your half right.

    Are you seriously that ignorant? I just posted the links, one of many, from those game launches. Aion and GW2 were just as bad. I should know, because i really was there.

    No need to get emotional, I do not totally disagree on your point, but I do not feel it is 100% accurate ether. With out real actual number, its just one mans opinion against another. However, some opinion are more right then others.

    Just note that we are on the same team here. Lets focus the battle towards the real enemy here, the Gold Sellers.

    Don't forget the buyers ;) They should get permabanned too.

    And to be clear, i understand people's frustration. I was also very annoyed to see hackers steal stuff right in front of me, or bots farming dungeon bosses. It IS very frustrating.

    It just takes time.

    And while the devs take their "time" we still get billed for sub par games.
  • cubansyrusb16_ESO
    cubansyrusb16_ESO
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am entitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    You're using a forum not building an army for a crusade ...
    Edited by cubansyrusb16_ESO on April 24, 2014 7:20PM
  • Kyotee0071
    Kyotee0071
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    Bah, let me try this again:

    @Emily If you add the following with no spaces to the start and end of each link you can get your photo's to show in the thread without the links.

    Start of each link put [ IMG ] with no spaces.. I had to add the spaces to show ya.

    At the end again with no spaces add [ /IMG ] . Should work and hope it helps in future post!
    Edited by Kyotee0071 on April 24, 2014 7:22PM
    I didn't think my hangover was that bad this morning until I spent 10 minutes trying to log into my old Etch-A-Sketch

  • whooligans
    whooligans
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    whooligans wrote: »
    ZIKE wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    ZIKE wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    I quess you have never played GW2 on launch or Aion. Go queue for some random bgs in WoW and see how invested they are with bots, esp on eu servers.

    FWIW, i made a new alt last night and i hardly saw any goldspam nor node teleport hackers like I used to see.

    They are doing something about bots, it's just not snapping with your fingers and they're all gone. It takes time.

    I have in fact played those game, and I do in fact play them now and i can tell you there are not as many farmers in those games as there are here period.

    Ofcourse not. http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/73466-guild-wars-2-has-a-serious-bot-problem-are-they-even-doing-anything-about-it/page__st__30

    http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/06/0540254/gold-spam-becoming-a-sore-topic-for-aion-players

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3010643631

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=201124

    I gave up clicking on the links you give when the 1st two that I looked at were dated 2009 and 2012.

    Yep. posting links to threads that are years old certainly prooves that any problems in those games still exist.

    Dumb, just dumb.

    We were talking about game launches. And if you think those games are now free of bots then lol. WoW still has a bot problem, in random bgs the problem has never been worse in all the years I have played the game.

    People were posting stuff that what is happening in EsO never happened in other launches, hence the links.

    Here's what happens in the real world, devs are coming up with solutions eventually to reduce the amount of bots, it takes time.

    And before talking about dumb, it's proves btw.

    Your exaggerating the actual comments posted by the community to attempt to justify your point. Yes, just about every other new MMO at lunch has had this same type of activity, but never at the scale ESO has. This point is very accurate. Basically, your half right.

    Are you seriously that ignorant? I just posted the links, one of many, from those game launches. Aion and GW2 were just as bad. I should know, because i really was there.

    No need to get emotional, I do not totally disagree on your point, but I do not feel it is 100% accurate ether. With out real actual number, its just one mans opinion against another. However, some opinion are more right then others.

    Just note that we are on the same team here. Lets focus the battle towards the real enemy here, the Gold Sellers.

    Don't forget the buyers ;) They should get permabanned too.

    And to be clear, i understand people's frustration. I was also very annoyed to see hackers steal stuff right in front of me, or bots farming dungeon bosses. It IS very frustrating.

    It just takes time.

    And while the devs take their "time" we still get billed for sub par games.

    Why play a game which you think is sub par? No one is forcing you to play it.

    Edited by ZOS_JoanaL on April 24, 2014 10:57PM
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.
  • ZIKE
    ZIKE
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    whooligans wrote: »
    ZIKE wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    ZIKE wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    I quess you have never played GW2 on launch or Aion. Go queue for some random bgs in WoW and see how invested they are with bots, esp on eu servers.

    FWIW, i made a new alt last night and i hardly saw any goldspam nor node teleport hackers like I used to see.

    They are doing something about bots, it's just not snapping with your fingers and they're all gone. It takes time.

    I have in fact played those game, and I do in fact play them now and i can tell you there are not as many farmers in those games as there are here period.

    Ofcourse not. http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/73466-guild-wars-2-has-a-serious-bot-problem-are-they-even-doing-anything-about-it/page__st__30

    http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/06/0540254/gold-spam-becoming-a-sore-topic-for-aion-players

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3010643631

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=201124

    I gave up clicking on the links you give when the 1st two that I looked at were dated 2009 and 2012.

    Yep. posting links to threads that are years old certainly prooves that any problems in those games still exist.

    Dumb, just dumb.

    We were talking about game launches. And if you think those games are now free of bots then lol. WoW still has a bot problem, in random bgs the problem has never been worse in all the years I have played the game.

    People were posting stuff that what is happening in EsO never happened in other launches, hence the links.

    Here's what happens in the real world, devs are coming up with solutions eventually to reduce the amount of bots, it takes time.

    And before talking about dumb, it's proves btw.

    Your exaggerating the actual comments posted by the community to attempt to justify your point. Yes, just about every other new MMO at lunch has had this same type of activity, but never at the scale ESO has. This point is very accurate. Basically, your half right.

    Are you seriously that ignorant? I just posted the links, one of many, from those game launches. Aion and GW2 were just as bad. I should know, because i really was there.

    No need to get emotional, I do not totally disagree on your point, but I do not feel it is 100% accurate ether. With out real actual number, its just one mans opinion against another. However, some opinion are more right then others.

    Just note that we are on the same team here. Lets focus the battle towards the real enemy here, the Gold Sellers.

    Don't forget the buyers ;) They should get permabanned too.

    And to be clear, i understand people's frustration. I was also very annoyed to see hackers steal stuff right in front of me, or bots farming dungeon bosses. It IS very frustrating.

    It just takes time.

    Actively banning buyer would send a more power message. Gold Sellers could care less about losing the accounts they use to farm, but players put their own blood, sweat, and tears into their character.

    However, banning bots would be the easiest approach at this point. The bots are creating a PR nightmare right now and banning players would simply exacerbate the problem further. By banning bots in real-time, quickly, and openly, ZOS comes out on top as the Hero and this only helps the overall PR.

  • cubansyrusb16_ESO
    cubansyrusb16_ESO
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious
  • Oblongship
    Oblongship
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Irony at its best...Anyone who doesn't agree with you...you flame them....

    YOU ARE THE BULLY HERE lol

    Nothing he said was bad or even insulting...

    You came across to a lot of us like a crazy person and he simply was giving you self reflection...

    Look inwards man you are trying to bully your way across these forums and flame anyone who doesn't agree with you.
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious

    You're clearly in violation of the forums rules. please stop. I've asked you nicely.
  • Oblongship
    Oblongship
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious

    You're clearly in violation of the forums rules. please stop. I've asked you nicely.

    You may want to read them before calling a violation. In no way has he broken them.

    Again you are being a straight up bully now...
    Edited by Oblongship on April 24, 2014 7:27PM
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    The only way to stop these stupid posts Is to purge this thread in a sea of fire and gasoline.

    No the only way to stop post like this is to correct the problem.
  • cubansyrusb16_ESO
    cubansyrusb16_ESO
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    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious

    You're clearly in violation of the forums rules. please stop. I've asked you nicely.

    Actually i am not ..... but please keep crying wolf, while you avoid anything i have said ....

    You know what forget it, continue to live in your bubble where everything you say is correct and for each reply you post you hand yourself a gold star.
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    Oblongship wrote: »
    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious

    You're clearly in violation of the forums rules. please stop. I've asked you nicely.

    You may want to read them before calling a violation. In no way has he broken them.

    Again you are being a straight up bully now...

    Per ZOS_MichelleA : "The act of trolling is defined as something that is created with the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. "

    Asking someone nicely to refrain from calling me nasty names is not bullying.

    Edited by Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts on April 24, 2014 7:30PM
  • Hrithmus
    Hrithmus
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    Good old matt told us they are working on it. I think that his post was more the "Damage Control" for PR. If you google Elder Scrolls most of the websites have "Duping bug hits ESO" or "Gold Farmers in ESO" nothing ever good.

    Gold Farmers know ESO isn't really doing anything and why should ESO care at the moment. The gold farmers are paying the $14.99 a month like we are.

    If they kick out 1,000 gold farmers by the end of this month thats $14.99 x 1,000 = $14,990 they lose out on.

    Granted they *** off the real players. But really the only thing they are doing wrong is using "hacks" (Not confirmed maybe just some super add-ons) and Exploiting some of the game.
  • Koltiros1005b14a_ESO
    Blue, go home this thread is lost save yourself. No one likes this thread besides you.
    |----Cometh' at me bro'eth.--- Aldmeri Dominion NA, Veteran,----|
    | -~Bug reporter extraordinaire-~|
  • ZIKE
    ZIKE
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    The only way to stop these stupid posts Is to purge this thread in a sea of fire and gasoline.

    Hang in there bro. These posts will wither away once the bot problem has been resolved. For now, I'd advise not reading or posting in any bot related threats if the sight of one generates this much rage.
  • Oblongship
    Oblongship
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    Oblongship wrote: »
    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious

    You're clearly in violation of the forums rules. please stop. I've asked you nicely.

    You may want to read them before calling a violation. In no way has he broken them.

    Again you are being a straight up bully now...

    Per ZOS_MichelleA : "The act of trolling is defined as something that is created with the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. "

    Asking someone nicely to refrain from calling me nasty names is not bullying.

    You bully anyone who disagrees with you.

    What he said was in no way a violation or even falling under what you quoted...

    You sit there and act like a bulldog to everyone who disagrees with you and then when someone tells you that you are coming off wrong to people you act like a frightened child being picked on.

    Listen to what he was saying rather than trying to play the victim...people may be more receptive to your arguments.
  • whooligans
    whooligans
    ✭✭
    Hrithmus wrote: »
    Good old matt told us they are working on it. I think that his post was more the "Damage Control" for PR. If you google Elder Scrolls most of the websites have "Duping bug hits ESO" or "Gold Farmers in ESO" nothing ever good.

    Gold Farmers know ESO isn't really doing anything and why should ESO care at the moment. The gold farmers are paying the $14.99 a month like we are.

    If they kick out 1,000 gold farmers by the end of this month thats $14.99 x 1,000 = $14,990 they lose out on.

    Granted they *** off the real players. But really the only thing they are doing wrong is using "hacks" (Not confirmed maybe just some super add-ons) and Exploiting some of the game.

    I always love when people post conspiracy theories as if they are facts.
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    ✭✭✭
    Oblongship wrote: »
    Oblongship wrote: »
    Eris wrote: »
    I personally am tired of seeing all of the gold farmers and exploiters in this game. I personally spend atleast half of my available game time putting in tickets to help correct the situation and it only seems to get worse. You can post on forums here but all you get in people saying, "Oh its an MMO , you'll always have hackers" etc etc. Yes youre right it is an MMO, but they fact is there are NO mmo's out there that have the amount of hackers , exploiters and gold spammers as this game does. Not even World of Warcraft ! Do something about it ESO or this game isn't going to have a serious community for long.

    Really, it's okay dude. I'm as tired of seeing new threads about gold farmers and exploiters. You are really as much a spammer as the gold farmers by doing this.

    You really aren't saying anything that hasn't already been said, there is no need for another forum thread on tis topic. You would have been better adding your voice to the hundreds of others in the threads that have been here since launch.

    Wrong sir, I'm not a spammer and you do the worlds gaming community an injustice by even suggesting that. This is about the poor quality of recent game content released by game developers. I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!

    I have a dream .......

    OK this really has to be said after reading all his posts soooo .....

    Man shut up you sound like a complete tool.

    *waits for an infraction*

    That's right, verbally abuse the guy that is trying to stand up for the quality of life within the games we all invest massive amounts of time and energy into.

    There is speaking your mind ..... Then there is acting like some kind of home ground hero stepping out to save us all from a near apocalyptic situation ....

    Your thread is no different to the other 9 i have read, its got no further than the other 9 i have read, it doesn't even offer any kind of decent information other than you preaching.

    You just look stupid, honestly read some of the stuff you say and think if that was someone else how much would you be laughing.

    "I am a gamer with a voice and that voice , spoken loudly enough, will be heard by millions of my brother and sisters who feel the same way. and we will not be silenced by your complacent logic. FUS RO DAH !!!"

    ^^ Seriously wtf was you thinking when you typed this ? ^^

    Just because you can't understand what is being said, doesn't make it "stupid " and/or false. Verbally abusing others who only want things to improve for all players only adds to the cancer that we are fighting against. Be a part of the solution and not the problem brother.

    Clearly .... you are missing the point, its not whats said its how you decided to say it.

    Its not being verbally abusive just because i think you sound like a tool, its called an opinion and as that i am intitled to it.

    You are also entitled to my opinion, reflect on it, absorb it and take a look at how you are coming across. If you want people to look at you seriously cut the
    "pre-battle" speeches out, then maybe more will take you seriously.

    If you continue to call me names i'm going to report you man. please stop. I've done nothing wrong to you and I have a right to post my concerns on these forums. Stop trying to bully me.

    Please point out "the name calling"

    You just can't handle the fact you have been called out on something and are taking it to heart, please step away from the computer you are clearly getting to emotional.

    Lets help you here: a definition of a tool.

    A comment, mainly aimed towards the male of the species, when one is being particularly nasty, stupid, or facetious

    You're clearly in violation of the forums rules. please stop. I've asked you nicely.

    You may want to read them before calling a violation. In no way has he broken them.

    Again you are being a straight up bully now...

    Per ZOS_MichelleA : "The act of trolling is defined as something that is created with the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction. "

    Asking someone nicely to refrain from calling me nasty names is not bullying.

    You bully anyone who disagrees with you.

    What he said was in no way a violation or even falling under what you quoted...

    You sit there and act like a bulldog to everyone who disagrees with you and then when someone tells you that you are coming off wrong to people you act like a frightened child being picked on.

    Listen to what he was saying rather than trying to play the victim...people may be more receptive to your arguments.

    I'll take note of this and try to correct my responses to reflect this. I hadn't noticed this and still don't , but i will make an effort to correct this behavior. Thank you
  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    I heard a rumor, that the two biggest gold selling companies we see in game actually share the building with Zenimax, makes you wonder.
  • Oblongship
    Oblongship
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    I heard a rumor, that the two biggest gold selling companies we see in game actually share the building with Zenimax, makes you wonder.

    Yes ZOS is secretly paying them or is getting kick backs to tick the player base off...
  • whooligans
    whooligans
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    I heard a rumor, that the two biggest gold selling companies we see in game actually share the building with Zenimax, makes you wonder.

    I heard a rumor, that the people at ZoS are not real people, but aliens, working with the elite bankers. Makes you wonder.
  • WitchAngel
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    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    I quess you have never played GW2 on launch or Aion. Go queue for some random bgs in WoW and see how invested they are with bots, esp on eu servers.

    FWIW, i made a new alt last night and i hardly saw any goldspam nor node teleport hackers like I used to see.

    They are doing something about bots, it's just not snapping with your fingers and they're all gone. It takes time.

    I have in fact played those game, and I do in fact play them now and i can tell you there are not as many farmers in those games as there are here period.

    Ofcourse not. http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/73466-guild-wars-2-has-a-serious-bot-problem-are-they-even-doing-anything-about-it/page__st__30

    http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/06/0540254/gold-spam-becoming-a-sore-topic-for-aion-players

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3010643631

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=201124

    You need to find A LOT more posts for it to be on same level as ESO.
  • Etchesketch
    Etchesketch
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    I heard a rumor, that the two biggest gold selling companies we see in game actually share the building with Zenimax, makes you wonder.

    Lol, the sad part is that it would not be the first time game company employees in other games got caught making money on the side like this. Letting the Chinese take all the blame.

    The lead developer for Asheron's Call is pretty famous for bragging that AC money had a better trade value than the U.S. Dollar.
    The number one rule of online gaming is now and has always been, Never play on Patch Day.
  • whooligans
    whooligans
    ✭✭
    WitchAngel wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    whooligans wrote: »
    I quess you have never played GW2 on launch or Aion. Go queue for some random bgs in WoW and see how invested they are with bots, esp on eu servers.

    FWIW, i made a new alt last night and i hardly saw any goldspam nor node teleport hackers like I used to see.

    They are doing something about bots, it's just not snapping with your fingers and they're all gone. It takes time.

    I have in fact played those game, and I do in fact play them now and i can tell you there are not as many farmers in those games as there are here period.

    Ofcourse not. http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/73466-guild-wars-2-has-a-serious-bot-problem-are-they-even-doing-anything-about-it/page__st__30

    http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/10/06/0540254/gold-spam-becoming-a-sore-topic-for-aion-players

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3010643631

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=201124

    You need to find A LOT more posts for it to be on same level as ESO.

    Like that is hard, it's pretty easy to find. Why not google it yourself "gw2 bots" "aion goldspam" "swtor bots". Have fun reading.

    To make it a bit easier for you, here are just a couple of videos(and note, there are TONS of links and videos out there)

    Aion goldspam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwDSlQMFd8U

    GW2 bot trains https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJhWLhpDfqw

    Edited by whooligans on April 24, 2014 8:17PM
  • JKorr
    JKorr
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    ✭✭✭
    Malidon wrote: »
    lol nothing like beating a dead horse.

    If the problem still exists and the peoples voices are still being ignored, its not a dead horse.
    You have some evidence that they are "ignoring" the people's voices?The bots still being in the game isn't evidence they are ignoring the many, many posts about them.

    Hey, I have an idea. The devs should explain exactly what they are doing to try to fight the bots. In detail. On the forum. So the botters can read up on it and find ways around whatever the devs try even faster than they do now.

    They are working on the issues. They can keep saying "We're working on it." They've already said that, more than once. Because the botters are so good at getting around measures to stop them the devs will never say "On this date there will be no more bots." but that seems to be what you want.

  • JKorr
    JKorr
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    And while the devs take their "time" we still get billed for sub par games.
    Then cancel your sub. If/when they get the bots under control you can come back.
  • Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
    Blu3d0gd3m0cr8ts
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    Hey thank you for your input .

  • AryaWythers
    AryaWythers
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    Another report for OG...everyone in game has issues, this is a ZoS shill who reports people who complain about the company
    This guy abuses the report system and should be PERMA-banned from forums and the game...he is making it impossible to for me to express my true feelings about game
    Edited by AryaWythers on April 25, 2014 3:22PM
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